Are there any notable /co/ MCs besides punisher who don't give a shit about killing evil people off even if theyre in prison already?
>>156086780mr a
I think people who believe this unironically have lived really easy lives that death means nothing to them
>>156086797Killing the mass murdering giga pedophile doesn't make you as bad as he is.
>yes I should be able to kill people that I dislike
I thought you guys constantly fantasized about killing women and blacks and jews whatnot
>>156086780Not enough people know who Robespierre was.
>>156087043>you guys>he says on /co/
>>156086797>t. sheltered retardAccording to your logic, everyone who lived before the 20th century must have had a very easy life.
>>156086780>duuuuuude you have GOT to come out tonight we're enacting cruelty upon those who have transgressed so badly that we can justify any act against them... and you KNOW we're interpreting our sadistic delight at violence as justified morally righteous anger... Yeah it's fucking crazyyyyyyy get an Uber
>>156086797People who live easy lives cling to life pretty hard in my experience.
>>156086780Do it again Miester Schmidt!Lifetime stats>Murder and Manslaughter: 211>Theft and Property Crimes: 103>Infanticide: 44>Forgery and Counterfeiting: 2>Sodomy: 1The wicked must fear the sword of justice.Bring out the poor sinner!
>>156086780Wolverine's another one. What him and Frank have in common is that they were both villains in their first appearances.
>>156086797What? How did you mix that up. People exposed to more violence and death become desensitized to it.
>>156086780Dude really stopped giving a flying fuck at the end.He had a damn good reason to, however.
>>156087132I was frankly baffled at the mass hysteria with covid, didn't these people know they were going to die someday regardless?
>>156087043Nah, after antisemitism became mainstream again a lot of that died down here, believe it or not.If you want more of that classic jew hatred with a new coat of paint, go on twitter.
>>156087016It's not merely 'disliking', who even said anything about disliking? It's more about a character killing an extremely evil bastard like the Joker, who is irredeemable and often kills dozens of people in a cruel and sadistic fashion.
Remember when Hulk randomly explicitly killed a small town cop after years of cope about Banner subconsciously using super math to make sure Hulk didn't kill civilians?And then it turned out this version of Hulk was actually supposed to be a stand up guy according to Ewing?
I think you’re just low EQ. This kind of media isn’t literally saying never kill villains or you’re “just like them”, it’s just using that sort of kid friendly element as a way to say don’t forget to maintain a moral standard so you are actually justified in fighting these people because you are better than them. These days, everyone is a massive selfish hypocrite with zero values who will use the most underhanded scummy tactics to “win” and so across the political divide you can’t really identify which side is moral and has good behind them.
>>156087333OP immediately brought up Punisher so he's clearly not focused on kid friendly content exclusively.
>>156086780It's all about the slippery slope. There's nothing wrong with killing massmurdering terrorists or criminals who will obviously never reform, but after a while it becomes easier to justify killing anyone for any reason.The Punisher in fact got to that point before they retconned it with mind control drugs.
>>156086962The problem is people are retards and often unfairly judge people to be that evil. There's a reason we follow the rule of law rather than mob rule. Otherwise you have tons of people justifying their murders by saying their target was super evil actually and deserved it, despite them have very subjective (or factually wrong) ideas about what the person did that was evil.
>>156086780this guy should read less comics and touch grass
>>156086780>vengeance>not justiceAlmost like these are separate things that OP and his retard twitter post don't understand
>>156086780Why are people who identify this strongly with morality and are obsessed with "being" "the good guy" so obsessed with brutal, barbaric murder?
Cape comics originate in an era where prisoner rehabilitation and the idea of paying a debt to society were what people considered what prison was for. And if all else failed you could poke in their brain a little until they were docile. This has fallen by the wayside and prison is more a hole to toss undesirables in and often get worse, so killing them is appealing to people as a solution. We’re also more viscerally connected to crime thanks to video and photography in a way people in the past weren’t. It’s hard to believe in reforming a murderer when a person can see what crime they did online.
>>156086780Probably Scourge of the Underworld?...which I really think should have just been Punisher all along. Making Frank the vehicle for killing off stupid or extra silly silver age losers would have been great.
>>156087043/co is turbo leftist, they have different targets>>156086797the noble ideals of letting go of personal attachments for the clear mind to judge and kill in a righteous manner, have decayed. society degenerated, everyone now is blinded by emotions and the petty clannish vengeance cycle of tribal society is all that's left for some people.Aristotelian thought holds the belief of an enlightened aristocracy with the emotional self control to accurately gauge if punishment should happenBuddhists likewise believed enlightenment came from freeing yourself from attachment, vengeance requires attachment.Other easterner philosophies have a variation of "Feeling vengefull is like drinking poison and hoping they die"The Christian belief is that all humanity is evil, the final judgment is Gods, not ours, though we are called to deliver judgment on earth and act in his name. Forgiveness is one of the pre requisets as you must hate the sin and not the man.
>>156087403>capeshit>not for kidsLOL
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>>156087688>You kids want the one where Frank gets waterboarded with urine or the one where he kills the pedophile parents who were using their own kids to make adult videos?
number one guy im kill..........tranny jax..........crime?????? be gay tranny..........also very mean like.........piss every circus mans off...............teleport brainwave at circus..........make it 10ft talll with 5 foot cock and super never skip leg day 9 million year thigh..........jax ass never know what hit him..........death by penicidal meaning ..........
>>156087069Much less how he ended up.
>>156087737The Loud House edit of that page is pure gold.
>>156086780Vengeance is bad. People who think that the justice system is about punishing/getting revenge on criminals rather than protecting society as a whole are retards that actively contribute to why the world is a piece of shit.The purpose of the justice system is not reformation, it is not cruelty, and it is not revenge; it is about making sure that elements that are harmful to the general public are prevented from causing harm to the public, either through imprisonment or execution.I'm all for the death penalty but I also believe there ought to be significant checks and balances and I am against the idea of vigilante justice because most of the 'righteous' vigilantes are actually faggot retards who couldn't be impartial if their faggot retard lives depended on it.>>156087043I just don't want pedos, jews (but I repeat myself), and low-impulse apes in my society. Whether they are killed, exported, or imprisoned is of no consequence.
>>156087674>/co is turbo leftistLol. You're so sheltered.>have decayed. society degenerated That rhetoric is as old as Rome if not older. >BuddhistsOne must reject humanity to walk the path of Buddha. This is the problem with your reasoning: people will be people, and humanity is not all rainbow and sunshine no matter what idea or self-proclaimed elite governs them.
>>156087453No that’s why we have courts, it’s to determine not just guilt but the levels of guilt and then give an adequate punishment. However that implies that the system works and that those who have transgressed face the justice which they deserve. If not then ultimately what is the point? What is the point of a system which does not investigate let alone punish those who have done awful shit.
>>156086780Oh look, Progressives reinvented "Tough on Crime"
>>156087453>Otherwise you have tons of people justifying their murders by saying their target was super evil actually and deserved it, despite them have very subjective (or factually wrong) ideas about what the person did that was evil.You have that anyway, though. Most societies declare killing to be immoral, despite the fact that killing is pretty much how every society came to be and defended itself. Even the bible says "thou shalt not kill", but then there's a whole section of asterisks that describe when it actually is okay to kill.They key is that most sane people are not willing to throw their own lives away by attempting to take someone else's. If you're so fucking crooked or reprehensible that someone is willing to risk their own life to take yours, then maybe you need to look at yourself. Violent crime/homocide is WAY down from where it used to be, so people generally don't kill just for lolz, anymore.
>>156087947>so people generally don't kill just for lolz, anymore.Well, except for cops. They don't count.
>>156087912>Lol. You're so sheltered.he means leftist by 4chan standards, which it kind of is
>>156087947>You have that anyway, thoughNo. You don't have that. Not to the same degree as if you freely allow and embrace murder. Instead, we rightly punish people for murder, even if they think it was justified.>If you're so fucking crooked or reprehensible that someone is willing to risk their own life to take yours, then maybe you need to look at yourself.What a dangerously naive idea of things. You really think people are flawless in their judgements? People will throw their own lives away for all kinds of stupid reasons. >those people aren't sane tho!Perfectly sane people can make absurd judgements as well.
>>156087947>Violent crime/homocide is WAY down from where it used to be, so people generally don't kill just for lolz, anymore.That's horseshit, homicide (not "homocide," though that's down too lol) still is done without good reason all the time. The vast majority of homicides continue to happen because of arguments, interpersonal conflicts, and relatively petty motives.
>>156086780well that's a childish reductionism to kick things off with
>>156087947Societies declare murder to be an immoral act not necessarily killing. Even the societies and cultures that do view killing as immoral almost exclusively focus on the concept of an individual killing rather than a society as a whole killing. I cannot think of a single culture or society that takes a zero tolerance stance on taking the life of another human being.>If you're so fucking crooked or reprehensible that someone is willing to risk their own life to take yoursWhat an absolutely retarded argument. Are you genuinely retarded enough to believe this or are you just being a disingenuous kike?An oft-cited reason for the death penalty not being a good deterrent is that criminals often either (1) do not believe they will get caught and/or (2) do not plan violent crimes in advance and instead commit them in the spur of the moment.When a nigger robs a liquor store and shoots the cashier that is not because the cashier is morally reprehensible, it is because the nigger has no respect for human life. The nigger is not thinking 'hm, by killing this individual I am in fact endangering my own life/liberty' they are thinking 'I want money. This thing is in the way of me getting money'. People getting mugged/killed/raped on the street are not evil and your take is legitimately one of the stupidest fucking things I've read on 4chan in a long time.
>>156087241People want to die on their own genral terms not because some idiots from China fucked up and then another idiot didn't wear a mask.Even more so that's why majority of people hated covid because they knew if you can't control shit then why not party. Covid was a really good test to expose all the hyper controlling narcissists in your life that you need to get rid of.
>>156087838What? You can't just mention that without showing it anon
>>156087913>No that’s why we have courts, it’s to determine not just guilt but the levels of guilt and then give an adequate punishment. However that implies that the system works and that those who have transgressed face the justice which they deserve. If not then ultimately what is the point? What is the point of a system which does not investigate let alone punish those who have done awful shit.Somehow you see this as a good argument for not having a system at all? That's an argument for reforming the courts and justice system, not an argument for letting people murder whoever they think deserves it.
>>156087896You're very confused and mistaking the forest for the tree. People only consider vengeance when they've been denied justice or can't even hope for it. This is a situation any society should avoid if they don't want to deal with radicals or vigilantes because protecting society is very much about maintaining the illusion that injustices are a punishable offense.
>>156087896>>156088081We could do without the racist morons posting, let more intelligent people make the points without injecting your stupidity into it.
>>156087947>Most societies declare killing to be immoralNo. Most societies and sane people understand the concept of two truths. It's not killing that's immoral, is the why and intention of the act. Killing can be very moral, like killing someone who's trying to take your autonomy away for having a different skin color, or killing something for food like a cow. Killing someone for a retarded reason like having a different opinion or because they wouldn't give you a taco when your at a Wendy's isn't moral.
for anyone that doesn't agree then how do you plan to stop maniacs like the Joker and Victor Zsasz?
>>156088099No, it’s pointing out the inherent flaws in the system and asking you what should be done, do you have an answer? >That's an argument for reforming the courts and justice systemHow can that be done when any meaningful reform is shot down by those who benefit/work for the people who benefit from it being as is?
>>156088048>says homicide is down, meaning people genrally don't do it anymore>says it's wrong because homicide is when people do it for fun.Reading comprehension nigga.
>>156088211>If you're so fucking crooked or reprehensible that someone is willing to risk their own life to take yours, then maybe you need to look at yourself. >people generally don't kill just for lolzIs flat-out wrong. Fewer murders may happen, but the ones that do happen for the same stupid reasons. His post was absurd. I shouldn't have to explain this, maybe work on your own comprehension.
>>156088209>do you have an answer?My answer is that having a justice system is better than mob rule where people murder whoever they think deserves it with no due process. I don't care if you think improving the system is hard, and whether I personally can tell you how to improve it or not is irrelevant to the point being made.
>>156088282We are currently under mod rule only it’s a mob of psychos rather than just a mob of the general population. One mob is no different than another. All covering for themselves and making it so their actions are either buried or minimized. Pardons and cushy sentences doled out as they see fit. You have no answer, you’re just saying it’s better to live under some bullshit which can’t be fixed rather than do anything proactive. >I don't care if you think improving the system is hardYou do since you have no answer for the problem and just have to say that it’s better than being without. You’re the guy saying it’s better to have an umbrella but the umbrella you’re batting for is filled with holes. People get wet either way, but one has the illusion that something is being done, and entirely cosmetic thing to prevent chaos which only benefits the people who keep making shit worse. So I will ask again how is that going to be fixed? You can just say you don’t know and leave it at that. But don’t pretend that it’s somehow better. >it or not is irrelevant to the point being madeIt’s not, you need to trivialize because you don’t have an answer. Because you know shit is fucked but if you were to admit that to yourself you can no longer pretend that whatever you’re doing or telling yourself that you’re doing is fixing shit.
>>156088357>We are currently under mod rule only it’s a mob of psychos rather than just a mob of the general populationNo we're not.>>156088357>One mob is no different than anotherYes, this "mob" is different than other mobs.>You have no answer, you’re just saying it’s better to live under some bullshit which can’t be fixed rather than do anything proactive.The answer isn't to get rid of the rule of law. That is the opposite of fixing it, it only makes things worse.Your premises are false, there's no reason to engage with you further. I will only reply to you again to amuse myself if I feel like it.
how their political alignment drastically changes if you replace "guillotine" with "waterboarding" or "gas chamber"
>>156088258Anon are you just retard?Like it's ok dude, you can admit. We won't judge you.
>>156088469Liquidate unsocial elements.
>>156088503You can't read, it's okay. I'll dumb it down for you.No anon, people generally do kill for the "lulz" still. You shouldn't assume that someone risking their life to murder someone is justified.
>>156088449>No we're not.I explained the principal of it and all you can say it “nu uh” >Yes, this "mob" is different than other mobsIt’s not, it acts under its own authority and has little to no safeguards or actual accountability for its members. It just does as it pleases because it has the power and ability to. >The answer isn't to get rid of the rule of lawThat is already gone, the sword only applies to people without the power or resources to avoid it and the scales can be skewed however the powers that be see fit. >That is the opposite of fixing itYou don’t know what fixing shit means, you just want the status quo because you can’t think of anything else even if it’s completely fucked.> Your premises are false, there's no reason to engage with you further. I will only reply to you again to amuse myselfMeaning you can’t argue or say anything but are too much of a narcissist to admit that so you’ll just keep going to avoid making it seem like you embarrassed yourself. Keep eating shit bootlicker.
>>156088551>I explained the principal of it and all you can say it “nu uh”The word is principle. >has little to no safeguards or actual accountability for its membersThere are safeguards and accountability. Your solution to these safeguards being ignored is to eliminate safeguards entirely. Dumb.>You don’t know what fixing shit means, you just want the status quo because you can’t think of anything else even if it’s completely fucked.The status quo is infinitely superior to what you want. Didn't we just talk about how murder rates are way down? Like ain't so bad. Much better than letting every moron on the street kill whoever they want.>Meaning you can’t argue or say anything but are too much of a narcissist to admit that so you’ll just keep going to avoid making it seem like you embarrassed yourself. Keep eating shit bootlicker.Keep pretending your middle school level ideas of how the world should work make sense.
>>156088600Middle school level ideas is a great way of putting it, actually>we don't need laws, we should just have all the good people kill all the bad people!
>>156088639I mean that last point worked pretty well for El Salvador.
The problem is always utilitarian calculus. Sure, if I kill a killer of multiple people I'm maximizing utility in favor not killing, but the problem is that it doesn't end there. You end up with the consequences of letting the maximal amount live, which then has the potential to spawn more killers or worse, basically the Live Aid problem or by feeding the starving population you increase the level of famine via reproduction. Strictly speaking, all utilitarian arguments end at antifrustrationism, which is like antinatalism on steroids, and eventually the only reasonable action becomes promortalism i.e. you kill everyone, the benevolent world exploder.So basically, you're going to need to go down another avenue.
>>156088600>The word is principleDesperate pedantry.>There are safeguards and accountabilityFor who? The people who do all the terrible shit at the upper echelons or the schmucks without any power or influence? >Your solution to these safeguards being ignoredThey’re already being ignored.>The status quo is infinitely superior to what you wantOnly if one benefits from it. >Didn't we just talk about how murder rates are way downNo, we didn’t talk about this. You said that to someone else.>Keep pretending your middle school level ideas of how the world should work make sense.Being condescending isn’t going to prove me wrong or provide a solution to the problems put forth, it’s just showing you’re mad about your bootlicking affinity being called out.
>>156088639Kill yourself samefag
>>156088724>Only if one benefits from it.No, we all benefit from a relatively stable society run by the rule of law (even imperfectly). Christ, we live in the most peaceful and safe era in history. Very few people are starving or dying of diseases as children anymore. Life is good, bro. We don't need idiots like you burning everything down and shitting it up with no plan.Since you're the one who wants to tear everything down, shouldn't you be the one offering solutions for how you'll build it back after? Or are you only interested in the tearing it down part?>>156088754Yes. I was patting myself on the back, because I made a good post. Unlike the one I just deleted full of typos.
In fairness, I can understand people being frustrated that criminals are never punished or hardly punished at all. Not just from Pedophile elites on Epstein island, but people like Sydney Mikum who get a slap on the wrist instead of life.
>>156088787>No, we all benefit from a relatively stable society run by the rule of law (even imperfectly)Aside from the people who get fucked over by both the system as well as all the malevolent fucks who are out of its bounds and are free to keep hurting people. But keep avoiding that and pretending things are fine because you can go to the store and buy slop and there is only a smaller chance than other places that some guy can slit your throat. >Christ, we live in the most peaceful and safe erasAt the cost of letting a bunch of despicable pedos run everything and avoid any and all prosecution or punishment. But you don’t care as long as you can you can feel safe and have your bread and circuses.>Very few people aren't starving or dying of disease as children anymoreAnd those children are free to get trafficked and raped by some politician. And nothing gets done.>Yes. I was patting myself on the backEven bigger narcissist that I figured.
>>156087920Don't worry, in 20 years they'll 180 then blame it on us and day l say we need infinite refugees to prove how sorry we are
>>156086780Jason Todd. They tried to kill him first.
>>156086962It's the principle of things, the evil guy believed that he had the right to rob others of life. So the good guy is no better if he also believes it
We dont let people go around killing bad guys because it's never about killing bad guys as much as just killing and having an excuse to do it without making yourself seem wrong. Killing a corrupt CEO or pedophile doesnt change jack about the things that allow those people to exist to begin with, only a middle schooler would believe that taking down the big evil bad guy is gonna make all his minions fall down too. Im not against the death penalty but vigilante justice is just looking for a valid excuse to kill people without making yourself feel bad about doing soAlso if someone like say Batman were to start just haphazardly killing all his rogues it's not guaranteed that violence in Gotham would stop, if anything they might become more violent just to keep themselves afloat since the whole revolving door thing stopped working out for them
>>156088810You should try working an inner-city ER sometime. These fuckers play paintball with real guns all day and night. Then there's all of the infants burned with boiling water. The first ten or twenty you think its an accident, but then you see the aftermath, cps takes the kid because "muh boyfriend mad, baby wouldn't shut up," and you realize its more a "new lion taking over the pride and killing cubs" thing. Then there was the boyfriend who beat the boy to death with coaxial cable (like cable tv cable), plus all the thirty-something new grandmothers and grandfathers... anyway, what were we talking about? Oh right, the world, A+ place!
>09 Dec 22
>>156086780There's a lot of his ways you could handle this, but it's not cut and dry. If you're not careful it will take over the plot or leave you with a nasty lose thread you don't want to deal with. The correct answer is it's justified sometimes, but you can only have one hero doing it sparingly without too much public knowledgeIf there are more heroes/people know about it, then you get the wild West and innocent people get killed (I'm reminded of an episode of gun smoke where a guy was framed too afraid to stand trial and ended up getting shot by the sheriff when he should've been able to have his day in court) This leads to the Adam West/MHA idea that superheroes should be licensed with situational qualified immunity like super cops.This leads to real world and civil war implications that the government can be corrupt and occupied by ZOG so you could be ordered to carry out a genocide in Palestine and ignore Jeffrey Epstein resulting in the need to go rogue and rebelWhich leads to a Frank Miller/Justice Lords/Watchmen situation where the superheroes do go rogue and kill the evil politicians and either instill a new form of government or declare themselves dictatorsBut then you get Kingdom Come where that once again leads to the possibility of corruption and the need to stage a violent revolution to take them down.There's not a perfect answer and most people aren't going to want to jam the entire cycle into their plot, let alone for every story. The best thing is to do your best to avoid addressing the matter head on or letting your villains get that evil and if you do either have them get hoisted by their own petard or have the hero acting in self defense and seem shaken up about it after so you don't have to open a can of worms. Otherwise, you have to just pick one spot in the cycle and have it be about that, because an epic detailing the entire thing is difficult to pull off and not something you can only be done every so often
>>156088541Anon it's ok. You're already stupid enough, you don't need to prove it any harder.
>>156087333Ok but what if they were massively selfish and principled with actual values, like in a good society?
>>156088823Sydney got 5 years in prison for his rager. He didn't hurt anyone either. He served his punishment and you have to accept that. People aren't supposed to be punished forever unless they do actual fucked up shit, or keep repeating it.
>>156088639>hell yeah>bless your heart my twelve year old buddytfw you agree with someone but they express it in such an obnoxious manner that they lowkey don't wanna agree.A MAGA retard and a condescending bsky user walk into a bar...
>>156089117Plus it opens up the hole of mob justice and punishment with no evidence. That's why proper civilizations have a justice system based off evidence and facts so we don't punish innocent people.
>>156089187>Oh right, the world, A+ place!Guess what? It was even worse before.
We should kill people who don't return the shopping cart, and it's frankly ridiculous that people will say I'm just as bad as them if I do so.
>>156086780it's amazing to me how something can be obviously true for thousands of years, and inside of one generation, it's anathema.basic fucking logic. you have a right, until you violate the rights of another. that's the only thing you can do to lose it.
>>156089117>projecting real life logic to BatmanYou really can't talk about people thinking like middle schoolers if you're going to do that.
>>156089984That was created by John Locke in the 1600s
>>156086962But that's not revenge anon, that's just murder. Revenge would be to do the same to his kids. Hence why you don't become any better. If your IQ is so low that "ah I just kill him" is your solution to everything then yeah, totally, the OP is right (wow, must be a first!)
>>156087619The guillotine probably the most humane and reliable execution method we have. If I had to die tomorrow, it’s definitely the way I’d want to go.
>>156087913This reminds me of a case from a couple of years ago. A cheerleader went super pregnant to prom, then a couple of weeks later she neither had the bump nor there was a baby at home. She was reported to the police and they found the baby buried in the yard. She gave birth in the living room then according to her "he wasn't breathing" so into the yard he goes. To first degree murder, she was deemed not guilty. To aggravated murder, she was deemed not guilty. To child endangerment, she was deemed not guilty (lmao). To uhh something moving a corpse, don't remember the actual term for it, she was deemed guilty. She served 6 days in jail. The judge himself was like "wow. Well regardless of the jury's verdict, I want to add that you, lady, do not have any respect for life at all".
>>156089984That's not vengeance, anon. That's self defense. And in most cases it's better that way. If someone stabbed you, vengeance would be the stab them back. However thanks to self defense, instead you can just kill them.So the OP is wrong because he can't read. Same as most people.
>>156090523Firing squad, no blindfold.
>>156087912>That rhetoric is as old as Rome if not older.Probably as old as time. Open any collection of Classical Greek political satire and you can bet the “oh woe is me, the society is collapsing, we’re so dumb and selfish now, the good old morals are gone” will be the main topic of every play.
>>156090592>people can miss>dying takes longer depending on where you’re hitNah, I’ll stick with the guillotine.
>>156090532I wanted to believe that this was a modern phenomenon, but the city of Nuremberg averaged about one a year for 40 years during Franz Schmidts tenure as Master executioner.I am slightly obsessed with the man at the moment as part of my wider obsession with Early Modern Central Europe and being in the middle of the spooky season.
>>156090419>Everyone is convinced Batman killed the Joker>Suddenly every gang in Gotham has tanks, Harley stops fucking around and the entire city gets drowned in Jokercrow gas
>>156090532foids will be foids but due process is still the lesser of evils. without it they will just straight up lie about men to have them killed by the state because he called her fat or whatever
>>156086780Agreed, rape and kill pedophiles.
>>156086962The real truth the glowies don't want to hear. As they are also bad guys in this instances as well.
>>156090532Where were the cheerleader's parents in all of this? There's no way she can give birth unaided in the middle of her house and nobody noticed anything.
>>156090925How'd she get knocked up in the first place?Probably neglect justified as "fostering independence"
>>156086780There's a reason Punisher hides in abandoned buildings and a van. He's wanted by the police and nearly every superhero. Turns out killing criminals on your own is illegal and frowned upon.
>>156090974Or more likely her parents were just drug addicts, I'm on a fucking tear
>>156090974>Probably neglect justified as "fostering independence"not even justified, these people usually don't even care about their kids
>>156086780Is this person indirectly calling Jesus a bad guy
>>156086780Has their ever been a Punisher story (or other vigilante brutal vengeance type hero similar) were he flatout gets the wrong guy or the person was not actually as bad as he thought and didn't deserve being killed?
>>156091097Jesus did say something like that but this is quoting St. Peter.
>>156088639bad guys kill the innocent all the time all the samethings can always get worse so what makes things good now?
>>156086780>heroic figures intended to reflect idealized virtue exhibits the virtue of mercy even in extreme casesI'm shocked
>>156088823People just need to accept that this world exists only to be a playground for sadistic narcissists.
>>156091127>the innocentThere are no innocents. Everyone is equally guilty of the same unforgivable sin, the sin so horrible that the only fitting punishment is infinite eternities of torture.
>>156087081>>156087132>>156087209That's not what he said at all. People who fantasize (keyword here!) about killing their enemies or the giga rich or whatever don't live in any sort of reality.
>>156091190Chill out Specter
>>156091190That's not quite what it is.In the western perception sin separates us from God, and Hell is the consequences of total separation from God.In orthodox thinking sin takes away our ability to experience God properly, so what is eternal bliss to a Christian is eternal torment to the unsaved.I might be able to reconcile these two perceptions given 50 years to meditate in a hermitage.
>>156087896The fattest, largest, most out-of-shape hands ever wrote this post.
>>156091253I mean it could definitely be perceived as punishment that's not "wrong" per se
>>156091253No. We are all born guilty of the ultimate unforgivable sin, and we must all be punished forever. Do you want to know what that sin is? Do you want to understand why trying to atone for it is futile? I'll tell you what the ultimate sin is: existing.
>>156088682Shh, never bring reality into an argument.
>>156087947Thou shalt not murder
>>156090472>all revenge can only be eye-for-an-eyeNo? Where the fuck did you get that assumption?
>156091338Samefag>>156091313This is what the most degenerate philosophers actually believe
>>156091592>SamefagNo
>>156091592>>156091624Samefagging is based anyway
>>156086780Judge Death
>>156091637true
>>156090683No gang in gotham has tanks.
>>156086797They follow the rules of the Buddhism, where humans cant be "evil;" the opposite of Christianity
>>156091682GCPD do. The pigs are a gang just as much as the criminal ones.
>>156088682El Salvador's crime drop was the political equivalent of losing weight with methamphetamine, and the same approach backfired on the other spic countries that tried it.
>>156091637>>156091657These posters are pretty baller
>>156086797Basically, also for people who see law and ethics as totally relativist.
>>156091701The GCPD do not have tanks. They have crown vics and Paddy wagons.
>>156090683Why would they do that, though. It's just the Joke
Has there even been a mass murder event in history that did not degenerate into indiscriminate killing of random people who tell you to stop?Genuinely how could you think killing people hasn't been tried yet?The bastards you want to kill are better at it than you, you fucking tards.Next!
>>156091237they are naive, but like children it allows them to speak the truth without fear of reprisal.
>>156086780Wow, this tweet from a transgender furry communist has definitely changed my opinion on mob violence!
>>156088639>we should just have all the good people kill all the bad people!We'd unironically benefit from this with how bad things are right now.
>>156090532I guess she literally got a jury of her peers who would do the same thing.
>>156090597Read Aristophanes "The Clouds", a very funny play mocking the fashionable trend of kids those days following some nutcase named Socrates who didn't make any sense to the older generation. He was sure it was a fad that would die out before long.Instead, it lead to:>>156089984>it's amazing to me how something can be obviously true for thousands of years, and inside of one generation, it's anathema.
Yeah, I thought Medicine by BMTH was well animated as well..
>>156088258You're saying one is more likely to killed by somebody they know rather than a random stranger?
>>156093720Yes, that's accurate.
>>156086780this post is very antisemitic
>>156090821expecially >>>/g/ptg/
>>156093053I think you're a bad person for saying that.
>>156088639
>>156094721He's gottim there.
>>156094721https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LR8TbtqJsAYou're both just awful
>>156086780Why do leftists hate the death penalty then?
>>156087947>Even the bible says "thou shalt not kill", but then there's a whole section of asterisks that describe when it actually is okay to kill.The actual translation is something more akin to thou shall not murder. It's a sin to kill needlessly and without cause but not if you are defending yourself, in a war, protecting someone else etc. But people interpreted it that it's a sin to kill for any reason and if someone tries to kill you better to just let them do it and go to Heaven early
>>156088186Thing is that's also comic nonsense done entirely so Joker and Batman can duke it out every other week. In reality Joker going to jail would be it, he wouldn't be shooting his way out of maximum security prison every week.
>>156086780Stupid people are always trying to murder their way out of problems they can't solve. They think that if they murder the right people all the problems will fix themselves on their own. And if the murdering is worse than the problems they're solving, so be it. They don't care. And if the murdering actually makes things worse, they just need to murder a little more.
>>156091098I seem to recall him killing an undercover cop at one point in one of the movies or the tv show. Can't remember the specifics.
>>156096304No people = no problems.The thing that made all of them fail is that they never went far enough.
>>156086962This. /thread>>156089047retarded mental gymnastics.
>>156086962murder is badwho the victim is wont change that
>>156096024>if someone tries to kill you better to just let them do itThat's what Jesus preached. Turn the other cheek and focus on the next life rather than this one.And if you genuinely believe in Heaven and an eternal afterlife then it's a sensible policy. Best to let yourself be killed, setting an example of peace for everyone and guaranteeing yourself eternal bliss.There's only one tiny flaw in the plan. It's bollocks.
>non-violence badwhy are people contrarians?
>>156087069robespierre wasn't evil, wasn't woke and believed in god. he was the chud of his time
>>156091724the problem with the other countries was they forgot the mass incarcerations and human rights violations, of course this will only backfire and cause more violence if you're not willing and commited to be the full bitch, you can't half ass these things
>>156087403I think that anon was responding to OOP.