Bump if you're reading.
>>156083387>round two with ravageI'm happy we're like four months into this. Anyways, thanks for posting, OP.
>>156083428I hate how Kelly writes dialogue.Everyone sounds the same.
>pulling new powers out of your ass to match a villains powerlevelWe're in full hack manga territory.Remember when Peter just had to be smarter with his existing versatile powerset, or use that science brain to plan?
Kelly, for the last time, you're not JMD. You don't have even 1/50 of his touch, sensibleness or talent. Or understanding of the book for that matter. You're not studying or exploring these dynamics, you're making Peter look more mentally ill than the guy who robs memories and makes glowing weapons out of them. And good lord man, ultra instinct right smack in the middle of your character driven attempt?
Okay this guy who is willing to risk civilian deaths to fight a villain is funny, but when does spiderman show up
>>156083426>>156083428I'm sorry, maybe my reading comprehension is busted, and I know the whole issue isn't posted yet, but is this supposed to be the Clone Conspiracy or X-31 Gwen that's supposedly the real one?
>>156083448He's joking, but this really is the crux of the fight. Two approaching middle-age men fighting over mom.
>>156083437Glad to see Kelly decided to have Peter unlock Goku's Ultra Instinct. Very original.
>>156083460Is Kelly trying to make Peter look like he has a serious Oedipus complex?
>>156083462>>156083467Oh man something almost happened. Thank God Mac put a stop to that
>>156083466Spider-Gwen also had a dementia episode and Larraz draws her like everyone else does on covers: just 616 Gwen. Remember #999?-Mouse Breathing Over My Neck Nick
>>156083455>you don't know me, Cormac>you don't know what I'm capable ofWhat are you talking about, I thought Cormac having knowledge of Peters background and memory was his whole thing?
>>156083491The writer forgot
>>156083448>I never had siblingsBenbros...
Here comes more Mephistowank and key jangling.Yes Marvel Comics, everyone wants you to bring back Coke classic. You know that the BND mandate has failed. Now would you kindly undo the idiot move and fix it already?
>>156083488Jesus shit fuck, I'm normally the one who is on top of things in these threads, and even I forgot. Thanks. Maybe I need to start getting a better night's sleep.
>>156083494But it's like a handful of issues, and it's Kelly's own OC?It should be impossible to bluff him so outrageously like this.>>156083497Ben might be treated worse by Kelly than MJ.
>>156083512So is Kevin or Andy responsible for this abomination of dialogue?
>>156083534What the actual fuck Peter.
>>156083514It's okay, took me a second too. My fucks given tank is completely empty, I don't remember the last time I felt such apathy for ASM, Kindred probably? None of this matters. We're running a double shit sandwich of movie and TV show synergy that won't matter in two months.
Is it worth doing the punisher vs spider-man book in this thread too? It'd probably end up being the best thing here
>>156083545>holy thwip!Help
And that's it. If you liked these, support your LCS or whatever.
>>156083507AIIIEEE
>>156083466It's Spider-Gwen. They're just making it very clear that she's replaced the original Gwen Stacy.
>>156083637Gwen Stacy's soul appeared to big ups Peter one last time for all the MUH's in the Wells run. That should be it for her aside from Sgwen and any jackal clones under the table.
>>156083518He treated Ben better than Zeb has so far, at the very least. I'm damning with faint praise.
>>156083676Ben's just a heartless prick under Kelly's pen who is used to squirrel away his space plot rapidly.Zeb wanted heads for pikes.
>>156083428At this rate Norman might actually bag himself a Gwen and it won't be Mysterio.
>>156083437It's literally just ultra instinct
>>156083443>Literally just calling it ultra spider senseUgh.Can fiege please for the love of God step in and make them make spider-man good again
>>156083744'Them' can't do it, it's been about the same group of guys circlejerking for two decades now.The talent pool is as tight as an anus, and as talented as one, they need new blood.
>>156083777They can if Disney forces them too.
>>156083783That's what we've been waiting for, we've had some changeover but none of the names we really need.Lowe HAS to fucking go. He's the longest serving editor and the laziest, and it would be one thing to be lazy but he also has over time developed a very sour reputation among fans, the Wells run again claiming another scalp.
>>156083549>>156083552I thought there already was a Hell Hulk introduced in Hellverine that Mephisto ended up stealing for himself?
>>156083869Or current Infernal Hulk.
>>156083428Yeah, Norman is going to fuck Gwen.
>>156083967He should, they have such chemistry together.
>>156083443Goddamn this is stupid.
>>156083467Gay.
>>156083676It's gonna be pretty hard to top Dark Web in terms of shit headedness towards Ben. That and Clone Conspiracy.
MUH GWEN
>>156084069The day approaches when Peter and Spider-Gwen finally fuck
>>156083454It's not a new power. It just hasn't been brought up in decades.
>>156083531>>156083534>>156083538>sees multiple people getting ripped apart by a Cerberus>does not attempt to save them or even empathize with them>lets out a retarded quip insteadwhoever wrote this garbage needs to be hanged by the balls
>that new Captain AmericaIt might actually happen......
OMDbros......
>>156083744Feige doesn't give two shits as long as its fodder for his gay movies.
Gonna start lighting up the old signal in the sky. Now more than ever we need OURGUY back to clean up Peter’s life. He solved the Paul problem for us. He can solve the Cormac one too. All Pete needs to do is call on his wingman and all will be right in the world again.
>>156083467So what's the point? In the end nothing happened. Nothing has been advanced, we still don't know shit about Cormac or how he has these powers, nothing's been fixed. It's just pointless.
Spoilers for the new Captain America issue. Spiderbros......
>>156084209So whats happening?
>>156084222I got keys that jingle jangle jingle
>>156084209>>156084222The answer is here >>156084232
>>156084187In hindsight, Peter's pathological need to protect Carnage turned out to be an incredibly based strategy. Carnie works as the ideal deniable asset whenever his non-killing ass needs someone gone.The OTP indeed.
>>156084187I would love an arc with peter/carnage. But id prefer they bring back street level cletus.
>>156084209Is the problem kelly doesnt want to write MJ or he is not allowed to use her.
>>156084318Mostly the former, but because of the former she gets handed off to others who make her much more important than he would, and then he has to deal with the consequences.
>>156083437Whis..Peter's done it hasn't he?
>>156084142I was baffled until I saw the author.Then everything clicked.
>>156083462>>156083467>>156083471>>156084209Imagine if Peter fucked off only for his deal to get invalidated so his last moments with may was swinging away like a lil bitch while his cousin got to savor her final moments.Sure would be funny haha
>>156084451At this point Peter needs to be punished both for OMD and also not telling May despite having every reason to and not a single excuse not to.Granted it's because of the idiot writers who are effectively writing a different character than what we had prior OMD, but still.
>>156084460Peter saying it would destroy her is fairly accurate with how she treated him as spider-man a run or two ago, ie, like shit.
>>156084476He has memories of her being able to take it though.So many of these problems are caused by himself holding onto the status quo because it's the silver age status quo.
>Spider-ManI sleepComeback is better >>156084480
>>156083408Why is he throwing Darts?What an odd choice of projectile weapon.
>>156083421Ew. Co-dependent talk. Shots fired!
>>156084192What? We just got his entire backstory.
>>156084192What? We just got a big chunk of his back story?
>>156083475Spider-man has been doing that shit since the 70s, this ain't new
>>156084485Mephisto sealed those memories along with those of Baby May
>>156083472bit of a random sudden tie-in into Armageddon Kelly could have probably set that up a bit better
>>156084537>>156084544Did you really need to post twice? All we learned is that he has mommy issues which we already knew given he's obsessed with May. In other words nothing new.
>>156083426>>156083428>Retcon Spider-Gwen into 616, strip her of agency and put her behind glass with that fucking headbandJESUS CHRIST AND THEY CHASTISE US FOR NOT LETTING GO OF THE MARRIAGE
>>156084619Source? Because that doesn't match up with latter revelations where he tells Black Cat etc.I think thats trying to rationalize what Joe Q put down, because he truly didn't give a fuck and as far as he was concerned Baby May didn't even happen.
>>156084623>Kelly could have probably set that up a bit betterUnderstating description of this entire run.I give him a bit of leeway because of the immense event spam the Shogun sent his way on the way out, but the Hellgate shit, Cormac and that fungus friend are all inventions of his own make that are the spaghetti plot without a bowl.
>>156084632The Spoffice can't decide whether its best in-universe depiction is Mephisto or the Jackal.
>>156083869Is Mephisto making his own Hell Avengers?In a QiB tie-in, he also grabbed Red Novell to turn into his own Hell Thor >>156083875That's just an eldritch monster taking over the Hulk's body rather than a proper Infernal devil creature.
>>156084649>that fungus friendKelly still haven't dealt with him yet he just a wierd fungus warderging around NY for the past six or seven months
>>156083491Likely he didn't get all of it yet. He only knew a portion of his life
>>156083467Why should May choose either of them when she can love them both. They're both her sons. So both Peter and Cormac should atleast learn to put aside their pride and just be her sons. Really they're just being idiots
>>156083426>>156083428>We interrupt this broadcast to give you your daily dose of MUUUUHHHH GWEEEEENNNNNN>>156083443>Ultra fucking Instinct>>156083472We once again interrupt this broadcast to inform you that IT'S ANOTHER FUCKING EVENT YAY!What a perfect storm of shit. I'd actually be upset normally, but it's hard to care about such a terrible plot being interrupted or undermined. I almost welcome the distraction.
>>156084745I would usually say Cormac has crossed the rubicon on being any kind of family considering what he has already done, but since Peter has seemingly no problems with Norman why not?
>>156084745Cormac was created to be a jealous lunatic and Peter has been lobotomized into a manchild by decades of baffling writing decisions and corporate mandate, what do you expect? To begin with May should've died while we were still living in the 20th century.
>>156084759>we interrupt spaghetti plot that's less relatable than an outing with Doctor Strange for keys jangling of something we would have done decades ago if we weren't fucking retarded>no Peter and MJ will not have anything to do with beating Mephisto or their love conquering all, why might that be catharticWhy not? Fuck it. Just superman prime punch us away from this mess.
While Sins Past got retcon, it looks like we’re about to get Sins Present.Spider-Gwen fans are pissed crossed social media now.
>>156083417>Are you hard of hearing or just stupid?This is such an odd way to put it. Just call him deaf, that's how the line's meant to go. I mean what, did they not want the VILLAIN being a little too blunt towards deaf people or something??t. deafanon
>>156083443>They speak to his heart and break the INSTINCTive flow of this newfound strength... this "ULTRA Spider-Sense."I may actually throw up.
>>156083417The last few Spider-Man issues are the first time in a while I've seen the old-time third person captions (which have been almost entirely replaced by first-person narration for a long time).Next, thought balloons?
>>156083497Teresasisters...
>>156084789Prime will be mocking OMD/BND with his one shot.
>>156084947Either would have been nice during the Wells run or ANV to know what the hell the characters are thinking and acting upon when they do something.MJ is like an Enigma Code, the writers don't even know what she was thinking and acting on back then.>>156084977DC for all its bullshit knows when to fold them and wrap up something that isn't working, it can even make peace with its audience as it does so. See Batkek getting btfo by Prime or all the rapid fixes once Didio left.Marvel Comics I think runs on spite, and it can do so for decades.
>>156084759>We once again interrupt this broadcast to inform you that IT'S ANOTHER FUCKING EVENT YAY!I'll take the event over this dogshit
>>156084815Got any caps? Not seeing much of a reaction on r/Spiderman from my browsing
>>156083475>>156084560I mean it's going to be forgotten by the next writer anyways, like how everyone forgets Peter can casually lift 20 tons. Hey remember when Peter trained in space and got stronger?
>>156085465Yeah, all I've seen is the usual seething about Gwen being near Norman. >>156084815But Sins Present was already a thing
>>156085465Go to the Spidergwen subreddit and Spidergwen forums.
>>156083426>>156083428Watching Spider-Gwen and Norman flirt with UST is so hot!
>>156083437You'd think professional writers would know ypu can ask claude opus to remove the ai cliches from your script.
>>156083443>Ultra Spider SenseWow. How blatant can you be?
>>156083443Imagine being a western comic book writer at the big 2 rn.
>>156083483We literally got this same lazy cover type during Spencer's run with Norman and Kingpin. Jarvis, launch Lowe into the sun with Earth's entire nuclear arsenal so that Nuclear Man may be created who can then scratch Slott's face off and also fly to Israel and drop Benjamin Netanyahu into a volcano.
>>156083467Oh for fuck's sake. Just punch this guy's lights out and take her to Dr Strange, Peter. Fucking hell.
>>156085980You mean take her to Scarlet Witch.Strange is on forgotten Asgard.
>>156085980>Peter, literally call anyone on your phone right now and steamroll>strap him to a gurney and make him do it>why are you going out of your way to do this solo and without a planThere were apologists last issue who said Scarlet Witch would appear at the end of the fight to clutch. Stop filling in the blanks for Kelly for shit he clearly isn't thinking about.
>>156083443There's a creature emerging from a tomb
>>156084519for the villain theme
>>156086419Which other Villian throws Dartboard darts at people?The only one I can think of is Black Spectre from Ellis's Moon Knight run
>>156084209>OMD finally undone>in a fucking Captain America comic>ASM will never acknowledge itYou won /co/. 20 years later and you have finally won. You must feel very satisfied right about now.
>>156084632>Retcon Spider-Gwen into 616Did they pull a Power Girl with her or something? I remember post-Crisis they said Power Girl was a time traveling Atlantean and not from another universe, or something like that.
>>156087009I don't see any victory or hear any bell, just keys jangling from a very agitated Marvel Comics that knows its fucked up but doesn't want to do anything about it.
>>156083387man spider-man literally never gets to rescue any female characters. he only gets beaten up and insulted by girlbosses or needs help form girlbosses but he never actually gets written like a man anymore
>>156087071Nah, they basically had her use a cosmic cube to retcon herself and her dad into 616. Oddly nobody seems to question the fact that there’s a second Gwen Stacy who looks nearly identical to the dead one running around with a father who is also named George Stacy who is a cop
>>156083428In thumbnail view, I thought Norman's head was Gwen's boob. >>156083446>you're not man enoughSeriously, who talks like this about their mom. There is no way you wrote this without wanting to be deliberate cuck-coded.>>156083450Peter bullying his villains is good and needs to happen more, but honestly, fuck this entire plot.
>>156083467Putrid
>>156087364That was part of the wish she used with the cosmic cube. That no one questions it.
>>156087009and then MJ started Fucking other dudes in her mini, like this old guy from picrel.
>>156087696Sorry broski, Daddy Mephisto isn’t able to give you guys another Paul 2.0 anymore, Dr. Doom bullied him out of Hell.
>>156088007Mephistobros….what now?
>>156088200
>>156088007This is the entity that’s been haunting spiderbros?
>>156084627I had an emotional response and inflated what we learned. We didn't learn his "entire backstory," but we did learn a "big chunk" of it.
>>156084623>>156084649>>156084759>>156084789>>156085101There could be big things coming.
>>156083391bump
>>156086565I'd say Bullseye has done so a handful of times.
>>156086387That's me after reading this schlock
Norman and Spider-Gwen flirting wasn’t on my 2026 bingo card.
So is Peter's group of alien friends still in his apartment? Or what happened to them?
>>156088848Raelith is preparing to peg Peter again
>>156083507Beat him Pete, he stole your marriage.
>>156088858She’ll fist him
>Flash's fucking MJ>Norman's fucking Gwen>Felicia's fucking random womenThe absolute state of Spider-Cuck comics.
>>156089968Aunt May is fucking Ric
>>156089968Shay is fucking Randy
>>156089968Gwen's been dead. These marvel employees are self inserting as jackal mephisto combined. Both jackal and mephisto should be buried as a christians.
>>156083387Spidey/hulk covers:Spider-Man / Hulk: Fire and Brimstone #4 Rogê Antônio VariantSpider-Man / Hulk: Fire and Brimstone #4 1:25 Sergio Fernández Dávila VariantSpider-Man / Hulk: Fire and Brimstone #3 Gabriele Dell'Otto VariantSpider-Man / Hulk: Fire and Brimstone #3 Terry Dodson VariantSpider-Man / Hulk: Fire and Brimstone #3 1:25 Sumit Kumar VariantSpider-Man / Hulk: Fire and Brimstone #3 1:50 Gabriele Dell'Otto Virgin Variant
Also ASM coversThe Amazing Spider-Man #1002 Michael Cho VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #1002 Todd Nauck Legacy Connecting VariantThe Amazing Spider-Man #1002 1:25 Benjamin Su Variant
>>156090170That’s how Paul went out and he hasn’t come back yet.
>Alien warrior comes to Earth to fight its champion>Said champion goes into space and trains in preparation to fight alien warriors threatening earth>Learns Ultra InstinctDragon Ball or Spidey. Call it.
>>156086050Whatever. Wanda, fucking Doom even.
>>156089968Flash isnt fucking MJ
>>156090709Wait, did he fight that Hellgate guy? I forgot about him. And what happened to Peter's alien muscle babe?
What does Miles feel about his white bitch being close with an older dude who killed her alternate self and tried to ruin his friend's life multiple times in the past?
>>156091557I don't know, Professor Warren hasn't showed up in a while.
>>156090847keep denying it, you know it's true
>>156091557Gwen isn’t his bitch and Peter isn’t even his friend, he’s just some manchild with similar (weaker) powers
>>156091708NTA but at this point Tony has a higher chance of fucking MJ than Flash, they hyped up how 'amazing' their bond was at the panel.
>>156091557I doubt he cares
>>156091557Miles is with that Ukrainian hottie now.You best be asking Black Tarantula how he feels.
>>156091735Faggot lmao
>>156091923>Miles is with that Ukrainian hottie now.Is Gwenschizo happy about this? He's a Polack and we know Polacks hate Ukies.
>>156091708Leak the Pages!
>>156091941signing all of your posts makes it really obvious who you are
Consider this this you trial Mary Jane or at least something like it.>>156092188
>>156091735Miles will never be a good character lol
>>156092098That doesn't make any sense
>>156092328Why would you want a bad character to be friends with Peter?
I dont like that Peter followed Norman's advice and used May as a bargaining chip. What a fucked timeline we're in
>>156092426I look forward to Peter burying May alive to teach Cormac a lesson, thanks for the moral lessons Osborn!
>>156088200No nothing if you read captain america you would know what is going on. Oh sure doctor doom did kick mephisto out of hell and thus replace him as a rule of hell. And hence the reason why Mephisto and his demons are now invading earth.>I no longer rule hell oh but never mind me my aarmy demons will just invade earth,Thus this has nothing to with OMD still things won't stay this way doctor doom won't rule hell for long and mephisto will reclaim his crown as ruler of Hell it's that preditable really.
>>156092592May is staying with Cormac.
>>156092426>>156092592Peter using Norman’s tactics is what’s going to cause the schism between Peter and Miles.
>>156083467Why would that ever be what anyone would do? Why does Aunt May live in a large Victorian mansion?
>>156092714Oh my fuck you're going to be right.Somehow Miles is 'taught' by Norman in a mini, but it's Peter who is going to get the lecture.What did they even learn in Spiderversity beyond how to dab?
>>156084560I don't think you know what I meant by Ultra Instinct. It's a Dragon Ball Super thing, literally set up by "letting go of your thoughts." It's the least original thing Kelly could do.
ahhh Cormac thread>>156092521
>>156092684Go fuck a black man gwenfaggot
>>156091708well Marvel can enjoy the Dip in sales.
>>156092734Jessica Drew was there the whole time to make sure Norman didn’t corrupt the kids
>>156092932She went out drinking with him.Norman should be ten times the pariah he is treated as, instead he's fun edgy uncle moneybags.A real redemption arc would be handled like Lex, actually giving away his company, wealth and turning himself in.If it doesn't hurt, it doesn't fucking count. This is just pantomime painless dress-up that the cast forgets their history to enable.
>>156092684Putin would give Mephisto his Christian funeral.
>>156093143Say what you will about Dan Slott but ending Oscorp after Dark Reign made sense
>>156093270I don't know why the events of Dark Reign haven't meant Osborn is black bagged and thrown into a cell deep underground on sight.
>>156092684Mephisto is going to be raped by MiracleMan after being raped by Doom poor Mephisto he is the FAGGOT of the Marvel Universe now.
>>156093302A single panel in a FCBD Captain America issue written by Ta-Nehisi Coates implies he was more or less pardoned by a coalition including General Ross, after Secret Empire. Apparently Norman’s secret sauce is the key to a strong America.
>>156083443So what the fuck is he doing? Shattering reality with his punches?
>>156094569>random bullshit let's go
>>156084759>We once again interrupt this broadcast to inform you that IT'S ANOTHER FUCKING EVENT YAY!It'll end with Spider-Man becoming the leader of the Avengers, so it's kinda relevant to his arc.
>>156094632It's more that the event spam has been so prevalent and overwhelming that this one is arriving with significantly more fatigue than it should.Were it not for the keyjangling of you know what, there would be very little people are talking about.Also fuck I'm so sick of Doomwank, take a rest and shove your face into some snow or something.
>>156094660No, I'll shove my penis into your anus and cum inside of it, and you'll love it. We're getting Ultra Spider-Man (BND synergy) vs Hell Mode Doom (Endgame synergy).
>>156094694Wat.Lad it's some keyjangling until further notice.
Why are people actually getting excited about Marvel teasing OMD being undone when it'll probably just be a copout or ends with Peter and MJ not getting back together?
>>156094952It's an allusion of something in a sea of nothing.But you are right, the execution is going to be shit because the people who did it in the first place never moved on.
>>156094715Lad, I know you want me to cum in a cup and empty it's contents into your gaped anus.
>>156083443>Goku gets an actual spider sense as an upgrade>Spider-Man literally unlocks ultra instinctThe fuck is this
>>156083471I can understand peter getting emotional in all this because he's been with her since a toddler.But cormac is a dude pushing 50 that keeps going "nooo my muummyyy" so no matter how badass or powerful they try to write him he's never going to be an intimidating villain
Can I wank this up to universal, I haven't been tapped into comics for a bit
>>156083467It's like they have to choose the lamest way possible to end stories, jesus.
>>156085500Remember that Peter is trained by Shang Chi and is a master of his own martial art?The writers don't.
>>156094952For one, Marvel's in a dead stall after the end of Ultimate, and significant editorial change. There's not a single interesting thing going on otherwise in the line, since DNX is boring, and Hulk War is acting as its own thing that has almost nothing to do with the rest of 616.Midnight is... okay? Overturning OMD even if Peter and MJ just address their love and don't immediately get remarried is one of of the only interesting things going on in Marvel right now.
>>156096197There was something where he KWABBED the spiderlings, maybe Hellgate, maybe Spiderversity implying they’re weaker than him, either way, he’s still more than just his powers. Spin will need all his bolt-on anime crap just to hang with him in their upcoming fight.
>>156084209This would have two major effects on ASM. The obvious being OMD, the second being Doc Ock regaining his old body and losing his memories as Peter/Spider-Man.The Spider office aint gonna do shit with this. It would undo too much of their past meddling.
>>156096197Wasn't there some throwaway line about how Peter stopped practicing so those skills just went away
>>156096686Either way he's practically 30 and fighting nonstop since 15.He shouldn't be taking punches from randos who aren't martial artists even disconsidering the spider sense.
>>156091708Marywhoretards ain't known for being smart.
>>156096931Are you replying to yourself now gwenschizo?
>>156083426she has such pretty lashes~
>>156083472Kelly please, don't narrate that much. The art tells half of the shit being narrated. This is too much narration
>>156083512Mephisto never quipped like this before.He had quips yes but this is like some kind of edgy teenager right out of high-school.
>>156096412>significant editorial changeWacker's an OMD believer and Lowe's still the editor for Spider-Man, though.
>>156083534What the fuck dude. Spider-Man is not fucking Deadpool. He should give more of a fuck that people are dying, not just joking about it.Whoever wrote this shit should be fired.
>>156098318Yeah Peter having a big drag of smokes between his major coke binges would be less out of character than that page, I get it's meant to be an unserious romp but that's just borked character.
>>156096197No, I make a conscious effort to forget and belittle everything Slott did.
>>156092426>>156092592>>156092714So, what, Peter -is- the ruthless prince of steel silk and not Norman, not-Ares just arrived too early to match the visions or whatever?>>156097988Larraz can't do paneling to save his life, it's sorta warranted.
