>yfw you realize comics will never be good again
I don't understand you peopleYou hinge your entire enjoyment on a whole ass medium on two companies and one genre
>>156080339>two companies and one genreAll companies and all genres excluding licensed comics, modern strips, and Scholastic comics (excluded because I have zero interest in ever reading those).
>>156080426Well, if everything is so terrible perhaps you'd indulge us with a list of 50 or so titles so we can understand your point of view.Surely that should be a paltry sum to put together considering, as you say, nothing is good.
>>156080103i realized that after black label tried to be the new vertigo
>>156080103They will.>>156080586>Surely that should be a paltry sum to put together considering, as you say, nothing is good.That doesn't make any sense. Also,>AI Shinji
>>156080103>Again>Implying
>>156080103maybe your tastes and or the times has change anonit has always been this way in the industrycapeshit comics are for kids
Read comics that aren’t from the big or capeshit
>>156080103Yeh>>156080339>>156081705Always funny to see these posts. Every single comic sucks. Marvel and DC sucks, okay. Then you realize that all cape also sucks. Oh okay, well what about everything else? 99% sucks. There are comics I always enjoy, like MM&O and some really obscure cape comics. The rest, other published comics, it's a big staggering pile of shit. People can't write and draw anymore. Everything looks so samey, cringy, or absolutely ugly. Plots are rehashed and have dumb plot twists, the dialogue is cancerous and artificial. Oh and they can't do good paneling. Most of /co/'s recs from the last two decades suck. Every single storytimed comic sucks. All published comics suck. There's some good shit online but it's not a lot, grim present>>156081467Wow anon that's a very mature and deep observation, good for you champ
>>156081927>I always enjoy, like MM&O>Everything looks so samey, cringy, or absolutely ugly.
>>156080426What comics do you even like?
>>156081467No see this is the issue, OP is right the comics suck, and it's because cape comics STOPPED being for kids, they stopped focusing on the male 6-15 demographic and started trying to appeal to adults male 18-55 and tumblr women. So now everything is "super serious mature" and whatever cause of the month bullshit women are going on about (BLM, the gays, immigration, rape, domestic abuse, giant coffees).If comics just went back to predominantly one-shot stories with fun adventures, comics would start selling better.
>>156081954It's shit, just like the good underground comix from 5 decades ago, and I love it
>>156082044Cape stopped being for kids back in the 60s. The problen began in the 90s with all the edge and some dumb decisions both companies were doing, but everything went to shit in the 2000s. Writing self aware and ironic crap, ashamed of classic cape.>predominantly one-shot storiesAnother problem. 3-5 ISSUES FOR A SINGLE STORY
>>156082050If you admit the comic you like is shit wouldn't that invalidate your tastes period?
>>156080339ThisLike if you can't enjoy something like Regicide coming out, you are one dry and joyless motherfucker
>>156082094It's another kind of shit. The one that makes you vomit, in a good way!
>>156080103What’s it like when your hobby is just hating everything about the thing you claim to love?
>>156082044>I, an adult man, am very angry that I cannot find comics written for 8 year old because that means there are no comics that are aimed at my mental age!!
>>156082795Hey anon never said that he hates everything. Many comics, yes, but not the old ones
>>156082795youd probably have to ask someone who feels that way.
>>156080103Comics are good right now
>>156082809You're an idiot.
>>156080586Fuck it. I'll step up.>Favorite Western Comics:The Adventures of Luther ArkwrightAlack SinnerAlec (The King Canute Crowd, Graffiti Kitchen, How to Be an Artist)American Flagg! (#1-12 + Special #1)The ArrivalArsene SchrauwenAsterios PolypBacchusBatman: Year OneBLAST (Larcenet)B.P.R.D. (Plague of Frogs through King of Fear)Cages (McKean)Calvin & HobbesCaptain Britain: Jaspers' WarpCerebus (The Palnu Trilogy through Minds)ConcreteThe Dark Knight ReturnsDaytripperEquinoxesThe FilthFookiller (Gerber)Frank (Woodring)From HellHellboy: The CorpseHitman (Ennis)Krazy KatThe House (Roca)The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (I and II)The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuckLocas (100 Rooms through The Love Bunglers)Mage: The Hero DiscoveredMiracleman (Moore)Palomar (Heartbreak Soup through Poison River)PeanutsPerramusThe Perry Bible FellowshipPreacherThe Puma BluesQuino's non-Mafalda stripsThe Saga of the Swamp Thing (Moore)Sin City (The Hard Goodbye)StrangehavenStray BulletsTardi's WWI comicsTop Ten (Moore)Understanding ComicsV for VendettaWatchmenWrinkles (Roca)Zenith: Phase IV (Progs 791 - 806)That being said, I have enjoyed some recent Euro comics.
>>156082842>The ArrivalUnfathomably based.
It’s always people who read one bad comic in 2016 and then haven’t read anything else that say stupid shit like this. Congratulations on becoming just like your parents and grandparents who complained how all music and movies and television was better when they were young but now it all sucks, by the way. You levelled up to a boomer in record time.
>>156082810>I love comics but also not a single good comic has been published since [insert arbitrary cutoff point from when I was a teenager]Checks out
>>156082842all shit btw
>>156082868>>156083332Thank you.
>>156080103What are you talking about? Only DC and Marvel have been ruined by normies stumbling their way over to drool on them.
>>156082833Name some?
>>156082044>If comics just went back to predominantly one-shot stories with fun adventures, comics would start selling better.They wouldn’t. If that is what people only wanted and were desperate for it why aren’t old reprints from the 50s, 60s, etc. that did that dominating sales charts? People like you are just morons.
>>156080103>again>implyinggood one
>>156080103make your own comics... and if they are shit , you can only blame yourself.
>>156083477>why aren’t old reprints from the 50s, 60s, etc. that did that dominating sales charts?Because they aren't being printed, and when they are it's usually in giant fucking omnibi that cost a stupid amount and suck to fucking read, so people just use RCO (or whatever has replaced it).
>>156083863>Because they aren't being printedYes they are>and when they are it's usually in giant fucking omnibi that cost Nope. And why should it matter if all other comics suck and the demand is only for old timey kids comics, people should be willing to pay more for stuff they are starving for>durrrr people will just pirate itYou are further undermining your whole argument.
>>156080103Comics are still good. You just got old and bitter because you have grown up to a point where you can’t get excited the same way you did when you were a child. You don’t have the sense of excitement and wonder of discovering new things like a small kid who for the first time finds something, so you blame new comics of being awful. It’s a complete misunderstanding of how personal tastes work.>B-b-but I still like old comics!!You simply like certain style tied to a very specific era in time. That doesn’t make newer comics bad. You just have just incredibly narrow taste. It’s no different from whining that music went to shit because people started to like jazz instead of classical music. Or that episodic tv slop was better than modern television where there are actual story arcs and development instead of characters never changing because muh format.
>>156083964>Comics are still good.Name some?
>>156082842I like it
>>156083964>You simply like certain style tied to a very specific era in time. No, that's what comics are. Comics are what's tied to a specific era. Kids haven't liked comics for decades
>>156080103On the contrary! We are on the cusp of the greatest comics golden age the world has ever seen.Right now as we speak, millions of people are developing a taste for cartoon fictional stories that are the unique artistic vision of single individuals, indie works. It's soo much more interesting than anything a corporate think tank could come up with, and it's soo easy to create. One person with a a pen and paper by themselves doodling in their bedroom can create the most breathtaking cinematic experience.They're only young now, but they've infused with the right inspiration and as they grow up and learn to draw, there's going to be soo many great comics, you'll have enough comics to read to last the rest of your life, and none of them will be disappointing.
>>156080339I don't care about yuro shit. I'm a DC fan and I want DC to be good.I'm not going to start watching tennis if my favorite football team goes 2-16. Stop this gay bullshit argument.
>>156084999I hope you're right.
>>156085012DC is putting out good books
>>156080103Comics is literally a slop medium.Started as slop, and will die as slop.
>>156080103>yfw you realize comics were never goodComics were always mass-produced, hastily-written, low-effort slop meant to nickel and dime distracted kids out of their lunch money. That a few writers of a few issues of a few series occasionally elevated their work beyond that to the level of being considered an art form doesn't change the fact that comics in general were low-grade consumer slop, just like every other form of previously-cheap entertainment.And there's nothing wrong with that, not everything needs to be art, some shit can just be cheap, disposable entertainment that you read once and forget. A kid smashing together action figures and having an imaginary narrative that "cape guy beats skull dude" isn't "playing action figures wrong" just because he doesn't have complex interwoven narratives and character arcs, anymore than a comic is "doing it wrong" just because it wants to do twenty pages of Batman BIF! BAM! BOSH! ing random goons instead of wallowing in sad origin story pity for the ninety-millionth time or making a whiny soapbox piece about the latest sociopolitical plight of underrepresented minorities. Yes, it's neat when a comic strives to be (and succeeds at being) more than that, but when everyone is trying to do that all the time (and constantly fumbling it) it just saturates the market with crap that takes itself too seriously.The worst thing to ever happen to comics was people taking comics seriously.
>>156085092Batslop doesn't count.
>>156085230But that's all they have left.
>>156085194>The worst thing to ever happen to comics was people taking comics seriously.Nah, that made them worth reading.
>>156085230You really should try actually reading comics
>>156086169That's the problem. DC was best when the whole universe was involved
>>156080103manga won
>>156082842mostly oldop confirmed correct
>>156086505>yfw you realize manga will never be good again
>>156080103I can make good comics but according to US law I would be arrested for it.
>>156087062Kek
>>156087051Bullshit.
>Comics are still good, but they were never good anyway.Okay.
>>156085145Fuck off
>>156088316Ladies first.
>>156088326Seethe
>>156088347No ones asked for your hobby.
>>156088427That’s yours
>>156088452You're the one who got mad at a comment.
>>156088460Sorry you dislike the truth
>>156088475"Fuck off" is not a something that indicates truth or falsehood. It's a simple command.Did you intend you post a counter argument, or do you just intend to stew in your rage?
>>156086395You should try sucking my dick
>>156088511So?
>>156088529"So" what?
>>156088529>>156088544Get a room.
>>156088864Only if you pay.
It's interesting to me that almost every comic thread on /co/ ends up with one or two guys exchanging monosyllabic replies, whether positive or negative.
>>156088973Bendis?
>>156082842Thanks for the rec list
>>156080103The Comics Code and all the other meddling, finger-wagging bullshit from the 20s-50s annihilated the culture and it's been a never-ending crawl back to square one since
>>156089307The comic writer?
>>156089514>20s-50sWut
>>156080103>implying comics were ever good
>>156090119Fuck off
>>156089907
>>156089307>>156089907>>156090268
>>156090119Again?
>>156087051I don't understand you peopleYou hinge your entire enjoyment on a whole ass medium on one magazine and one genre
>>156081927Fuck Off, you sorry miserable fag
>>156090915Kino response
>>156091607Gay reply
>>156085092DC hasn't put out a good book since fucking Flashpoint happened.
>>156093951Absolute Batman is better than your favorite comic.
>>156093951When was that?
>>156094088>Absolute Batman is more popular than your favorite comic.ftfy
>>156088973It's one guy.
>>156094536We've been over this already, and everyone calls it and extra life.
>>156094536No>>156094953Sure
>>156088973It's not only in these threads. It's common in /co/. Either a single dumb poster or a collective idiocy. I suppose it's the former. Other anons have noticed it, and recently I read a post in another board specifically about this issue in /co/. He even linked a thread >>156094962YesNoMaybeI don't knowCan you repeat that question?Faggot
>>156080103Next week tho
>>156082842>no bushmiller Nancy
>>156095135Seethe, fag
>>156095936#51
>>156094088It's worse than my least favorite comic.
>>156095936Make your top 50, bud.
>>156080103I will never realize this.
>>156080103ok cynic
Quit sticking to main universes, the big two only allow their creatives to actually be creative in alternate universes
>>156080103>Not reading Conan
>>156080103Nuh uh.
>>156080103Posting this shit as Scott Snyder and Deniz Camp are saving comics
>>156100980Heh
>>156080103I follow one (singular) still good comic series.The Author is old as hell though and only his asian genes and asian work morale are keeping him tethered to this mortal realm.
>>156101257Isn't this in color now?
>>156101257It's a shame, if only he had been born in Japan, he could have been great
>>156101415Would he have gotten a gig in Japan?
>>156099301Pulp heroes don't let you down, Skanks like She-Hulk always do.
>>156101736Yeah he'd probably be as big as Doraemon
>>156101377Sadly, yes.
>>156101762As who?
>>156102014
>>156102440That's not Doraemon, it's clearly a digimon!
>>156102440>>156102648Which is it?
>>156102440Kid Goku is the cutest thing ever <3
>>156102013A daring synthesis.
>>156080103What the fuck is that expression?
>>156080103Comics are racist
>>156080103Again?
>>156106262Good.
>>156080339I like superman.
>>156082842> Quino's non-Mafalda stripsWhat’s wrong with the mafalda stuff
>>156084906>>156089394Thanks.>>156095936I just stopped at 50.>>156107032I haven't read more than a few Mafalda strips is what's wrong with it.
>>156106299Again! (again...) Again!
>>156081927>everything sucks and always will>I am very mature
>>156109469It's kind of true for comics.
>>156109469I'd rather sound like an elitist faggot than being a naive optimist or actually liking all this trash. Comics written and drawn by people recycling concepts or making them worse. They rarely are able to think. Do you seriously think that I'm happy with this, that I want this?
>>156110516Good point.
