You know it’s true.
>>156074428nah we need spiderman comics to just end
>>156074428Nah. Current day MJ blows. Gimme Felicia or Sadie Sink.
>>156074574No
>>156074428She is going to be fucking Flash. They pushed her book back because they knew it would piss people off and effect midnight and ASM 1000 sales.They hate Mary Jane and want to sour her as much as possible for the next writer. Ashly Allen is a cunt for contributing to this.
>>156075087What’s wrong with Flash? (Besides him skipping leg day)
>>156075123would anyone want to read her in a relationship with another man. do you write fan fics about your wife dating other men?
>>156075148They ain’t married
>>156074428Whatever happened to Silk?
>>156075258Nobody cares about Silk, not even Slott.
>>156075361We love Silk’s assets
>>156075253Dont be fucking obtuse. MARY JANE isn't a fucking person. She is Peters fucking love interest she shouldn't be fucking other men, let alone Flash Thompson. i official no longer give a shit about any of his development
>>156075253They were never divorced, the extend of mephistos Power is dubious and the OAA recognized the marriage.
>>156075087She’s not going to be with Flash, she already made it clear she’s not interested even if Flash is pining for her.OMD and BND are on their last gasps, because Paul sucked so much shit that it cost Marvel its decades long market lead. We’re getting back to BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY era Marvel.
>>156075374Built for me
Mary Jane has her dildo symbiote Fang now. There’s no need for Peter.
>>156074428Zdarsky should just kill off Mephisto in his Avengers run. Shit villain, absolutely toothless and basically castrated into being a secondary Spider-Man Mystery Box Villain on par with Kindred or Morlun or Hellgate. Let the big red faggot have his last hurrah as a BIG THCAWY WIWWAIN and then replace him with somebody more interesting. Sister Sorrow already raped Mephisto once for example, she could take over Hell effortlessly.
>>156075605Well then why is he in her book? Pining after her? beta max his way into her pants? are they turning flash into the creepy friend zoned loser?Jordan White said it wasn't over which means there will be more bullshit with them.
>>156075123Flash was the best man at the wedding, even if called off in current continuity it's still a massive dick move.
>>156074756>AI slop AND garbage resolution.You cunt.
>>156075763Mephisto in one last act of spite should kill 'MJ' so the BND guys can stop fucking damaging her.Then when the last of them has gone, we can pull MJ out of the portal she's been in stasis in since before Dead Language, and move on from the long mid-life crisis.
>>156075871Just have current MJ be a body Decoy/ Magical construct like the kids. I honestly dont care what fucking lore or continuity it screws up
>>156075813They’re not going to turn Flash into Paul 2.0 after going through so much shit over Paul. They’ve basically killed the possibility of a non-Peter love interest for MJ for at least a couple of decades. All it’s going to do is shoot them in the foot.
>>156075813Peter is with the yellow alien.
>>156075933Killed the possibility of a male suitor perhaps. But not a female one.
>>156075980They aren't even bothering with the pretence that discount Starfire is a real romantic relationship this time. It's explicitly a friends with benefits thing.It's just nothing will happen between MJ and Peter beyond usual b8ing until Kelly is gone, because Kelly does not give a fuck about writing MJ.
>>156075992Probably Felicia then. I’m fine with it.
>>156075980He's not with Raelith. She shows up every once in a while to rape him on panel or be vague and moody about some shit. Raelith is a shitty character created by a shitty writer.
>>156075813White says a lot of shit in letters and interviews that nothing comes of, it's just typical editor puffery.It really wouldn't surprise me if there were some serious last minute rewrites between Death Spiral, #1000 and QIB about the MJ question. She's fucked, and needs serious character repair.>>156076069It's just gross seeing Peter so very passive in his relationships. I feel like he would go out with anyone so long as propositioned when single. Where is his drive, preferences and boundaries?
>>156074428>Spiderbros…we need her back AnonymousYeah as more of a whore who will she fuck next after Paul, word is it will be tony stark
>Oh Tony I need you to comfort me after paul's loss."comfort" then leads to them having sex and them becoming a couple
>>156076057Then MJ and Flash can be friends with benefits.
>>156076340Possibly, MJ doing this so soon after a multiple years long relationship with adopted 'children' and supposed trauma bonding would just make both look bad, but that's what Spoffice does best.It's funny, canonically it's very likely that Paul has been the person she has had sex with the most in current continuity. 616 is a cursed timeline.
>>156076340Gross why?
Nah
>>156076482NTA but play into the continued narrative as expressed in ANV's letters that 'people can date who they want'. Just pair the spades until someone has an idea.It's a terrible thing, and Flash shouldn't be doing this at all, he's regressing to goddamn Highschool shit when he was Peters best man, but we are dealing with Lowe here.
>>156076510Why can't we get this level of writing again?Look at what's accomplished in a page and compare it to all Kelly has tried to do with Raelith, or Wells thought he was doing with Shay.
>>156075763If Mephisto dies, he dies. Don't think anyone honestly care about Mephisto as a character/villain.
>>156076626He's an extremely useful took for shameless hack writers to get what they want or reset to where they want to be.You shouldn't rely on a Diabolus ex machina for a conclusion, but such is comic book bullshit.
>>156076668He's only that because writers never bothered with making hell mean anything in their stories or establishing any sort of mechanism to prevent writers from just magic-ing their way out of shit. Some Ghost Rider writer should once and for all, put limits on these characters. For some reason symbiotes are kind of like that but not to reality warping levels.
>>156076730Yeah, it's one of the problems with a shared universe. Like why doesn't anyone just call Strange or the Avengers whenever you have a magical or major threat that goes beyond street? And why they are always off-world or uncontactable etc.If we had a proper EIC, they would do up a Bible of basic ground rules to follow and under what circumstances they can break, otherwise you're essentially in Silver-Age whatever whenever but without the creativity.
>>156074428would she let me smell her butt?
>>156076340>Then MJ and Flash can be friends with benefits.Anyone who is ok with this has something wrong with them.This makes me want to Vomit. LOL. Like what is wrong with these fucking people? You don't want to write MJ in ASM then don't fucking write her at all. Why intentional pair her off other people when its going to piss people off and hurt sales. Nobody bought Jackpot, Venom sales were bad because of Paul and her, her new book is going to crash. I feel like these people are intentionally making fun of me for giving a shit about this IP. It makes me want to visit Marvel offices in minecraft.
>>156076966Editorial are trolls with tenure.
>>156074428You guys need a viral Peter and MJ Meme to break. All they do is shit on you, Lowe in the books and the Chad Dan Slott shits on you from the CBR forums. You need a new way of applying pressure to get what you want.
>>156076966>It makes me want to visit Marvel officesNew euphemism just dropped for any new page that is bait.>>156077188Slott has gotten BTFO even in those hugbox threads/boards.
>>156075361I figured as much, but where is she?
>>156077286Slott wanting some guys LCS contact number sure was a thing.
>>156077322Last I saw her was Spiderversity, acting like someone with delayed adolescence. Which I suppose makes sense given her origins.I have no idea what the writers were smoking with Spiderversity, Norman should not be around kids, every panel with them is bizarre and unearned. No I don't care if Jessica was watching him.A proper redemption arc is Norman surrenders his wealth to charity and if not surrenders himself to the authorities, then lives humbly and works doing what he can. As it stands he's still living the high life off the blood money and souls that built his empire. It's a weightless, painless redemption.
>>156077398why doesn't Norman give his company to peter and help out as an advisor
>>156074428
>>156077451In-universe I don't know if Norman has a board he has to answer to, not to mention how the stocks would react to the failed CEO of Parker Industries basically black-balled given another business to seemingly torpedo.Out of universe they just don't want to do Parker Industries again, and they shouldn't as it doesn't really jive, Peter is not a Tony Stark. He should realistically have patented the web-fluid and the like and be living wealthy, but comic book logic aside he's learnt to be the frugal sort when not written by Slott. You can be brilliant and still fail to monopolize properly.
>>156077486Shut up Tom King.
>>156077567?
>>156076966>Why intentional pair her off other people when its going to piss people offThat's exactly what the editorial wants, you're forgetting that a lot of the Marvel higher-ups hate MJ and prefer Gwen. If they do this shit enough times, people will stop caring about her and they can finally remove MJ from the series for good.
>>156078056Even that gives more cogent explanation for their output that's deserved.If they didn't want MJ anymore, they wouldn't be putting her as Jackpot, ANV, celebrating her anniversary (with notably no writer from BND), and giving her a new mini-series.The truth is they DO want MJ, but they want to write her out of her previously established decades long position that gave her the popularity in the first place, hence giving her a half dozen hats and careers over the BND period, trying to roughly shotgun a new character in the old classics mould. And you are right, the absolutely bizarre infatuation of the Spoffice with Gwen is well-documented, even in #1000 where they are name dropping her as the lost true love.They write MJ as her critics view her, the MJ under their pen wouldn't have closed the door to comfort Peter after Gwens death. She'd storm off girlbossing after being insulted, because she's a much less complex and understanding character than the masking party girl of yore.
>>156077737Stay out of Manhattan and enjoy your Burbank.
>>156076966Peter is fucking Raelith anon.He and MJ aren’t together right now. She is free to fuck whoever she chooses.
>>156078560She should start an OnlyFans in the comics and pull a Bonnie Blue
>>156078560Sure but if we were to put any weight on her character she's supposedly fresh from a trauma bond break-up and losing two kids. And Flash was the best man for Peter and MJ's wedding which was cancelled because lmao brick.None of this is ever going to be addressed in a mature fashion by these guys, is it?
>>156076197Tony Stark had sex with Norman Osborn lol
>>156078697OMIT is conditionally canon
>>156078727>>156076303Tony’s going to be too busy being raped in prison.>PETER SAVE ME I’M SORRY FOR BEING A FASCIST DURING CIVIL WAR! DON’T LEAVE ME HERE TO ROT, WITHOUT MY SUIT AND MY MONEY THESE ANIMALS WILL EAT ME ALIVE>I’LL STAY AWAY FROM OF WIFE AND HAVE SEX WITH NORMAN OSBORN INSTEAD AIEEEEEE
>>156078784>conditionally canonWhat does that even fucking mean?
>>156078653>OnlyFans in the comics where Putin is in the middle of his nukechad arcMaybe ask again after he nukes Poland and Israel like a nukechad he is.
>>156078840It means that it basically doesn't exist outside of people alluding to it sometimes
>>156078821>don't worry Tony, I have a speed-dial to Norman who will deliver a power-suitThese characters man
>>156078849Why can't he nuke Ukraine?
>>156078821>Tony’s going to be too busy being raped in prison.So what whores like her love rapists that will only make her love him stronger.
>>156075148These are comics about superheroes. Almost a majority of characters have been intimate with each other out of the blue in the decades of stories. There are no genuine OTPs.
>>156079001He wants Ukraine to be inhabitable to expand Russia. Launching a virus attack and isolating it is much more efficient.
>>156078560Is Peter fucking Raelith? Because we basically never see them spending time together. It's very easy to forget she even exists.
>>156079171>cucks are why civilian characters are irrelevantExplains why Happy and Ned are revived as superheroes.
>>156074428>>156074441>>156074468>>156074756I admit I have never read Spider-Man comics but I like Spider-Man as a character (mostly from the movies), but Mary Jane looks like a nasty bimbo whore, the kind of sexy drunk slut you meet at the nightclub, have a one night stand with her, and you don't see her ever again. Yeah, the sex is great but you don't want to date or even marry such a crazy woman. I honestly would like to see my man Peter Parker with a better woman, a woman worthy of wife material. Mary Jane is NOT for Spider-Man.
>>156079546>I admit I have never read Spider-Man comics but I like Spider-Man as a character (mostly from the movies)Stopped reading here. There is no good live action Spider-Man after the actors share the same universe with Mephisto in MCU.
>>156076510Maybe I'm being as cynical as Garth ennis, but something about this makes me want to vomit.
>>156078560Peter is not fucking raelith and you are cuck brained retard for even suggesting its ok for MJ to be with someone else. Especially with Beta loser like Flash who is pining and creeping after her immediately before she broke up with Paul.Of course its not OK you fucking spade, that's why they push it.
>>156079546Hello Spoffice.
>>156079603Why? It's a kids comic anon.
>>156079061They don’t live the raped regard face it faggot Iron Man’s a prison bitch now he’s going to be Paste-Pot Pete’s new boyfriend.
>>156078993Norman Osborn is a villain and murderer who should be dead. People who praise him like you should be shoot or simply hanged by the neck untill dead.
>>156079871NORMAN IS A HERO AND AN EVEN BETTER SPIDER-MAN THAN MILES MORALES I FORGIVE HIM FOR KILLING GWEN HE HAS ATONED
>>156079845More Like Mary Jane becomes Tony Stark's wife.
>>156079898Nothing he does can ever atone him for Gwen's death.
>>156079902Nobody’s going to want him after he gets AIDS and hepatitis C in prison no wonder Happy Hogan faked his death all these years nobody wants to be around Iron Man anymore.
>>156079898>>156079902Nah
>>156079930>Yeah he is a fucking murderer allrighthow nice of you to agree with me abou that.
>>156079871Lad I was agreeing with you, Normans redemption being such a shallow shitshow that the characters around him are all for whatever reason onboard with, is a giant dead canary for ASM writing quality and continuity.>>156079902Current 616 MJ isn't good enough for anyone, she needs a long hard look at herself for bedding the world killer.
>>156079926Tony may have erased his memories of Civil War, but he will never be able to erase what was done to him in prison.
Spider-man threads are coming back in full swing *sight* here we go again so fucking tired of this shit.>>156079746
>>156079979Wasn't Felicia sexually assaulted in the woman's prison?
>>156074428Which comic is this, post the data so I can download
>>156079965>Lad I was agreeing with you, Norman is beyond redemption and should be dead.
>>156080031I concur, both Norman and Aunt May should be dead.
>>156080007I hope so.
>>156079926>Nobody’s going to want him after he gets AIDS and hepatitis C in prison no wonder Happy Hogan faked his death all these years nobody wants to be around Iron Man anymore.Oh I am pretty sure that Iron Man #700 will retcon any wrongdoings Tony did in the past. That's just how marvel works really the only question is will he still be Iron Man or wlll someone new wear the armour? the recent solicts really do make me wonder about that>THE INCARCERATED IRON MAN, PART 2 OF 4! TONY STARK is alone in the Vault…even when surrounded by some of his greatest foes! The very same foes he captured and locked up. So, of course, they are going to talk it out and work on their issues, right? NOPE, IT’S TIME FOR A PRISON-YARD BRAWL! Can Tony survive without his armor? Even issues: TONY STARK. Odd issues: WAR MACHINES. All culminating in IRON MAN #700 in APRIL when a NEW IRON AGE is forged!
>>156080042And Gwen Stacy should be restored back to life since she and Peter belong with each other
Okay shitposting aside The Amazing Spider-Man #1002 a review>“You don’t know me, Cormac. You don’t know what I’m capable of. Maybe since you cut me out of her heart… I have nothing to lose.”>I love this run so much, it’s hands down some of the best Spider-Man stuff we’ve gotten in years. And when Kelly just locks in on it- he locks in hard. Just an all around banger issue in a really good arc. I really wish we coulda gotten more of this confrontation desu.>Peter and Cormac go head to head in this, and the fight is so good. I really love the dialogue between the two of them and how they argue with one another. Just seeing their two completely different takes on what’s happening to May and seeing how far Peter is willing to go for her is just so good. I love their dynamic so much in this run, Kelly is actually making Aunt May important to Spider-Man again for the first time in forever which is really sweet.>I do like seeing more about Cormac in this as well, seeing a bit more of his origin and you can kinda connect some parallels to Peter which is really cool.>Don’t even get me started on the art either, I absolutely love how Laraz draws Spider-Man. There’s so many panels in here that he did where it’s just like THE definitive Spider-Man. It’s kinda crazy how great his work on this title is, I just wish he was actually on the book more often than he currently is.>I really love Kellys characterization for Peter as well. I've mentioned it a few times already in my reviews for this run, but Kelly just really gets Peter as a character and it makes it so fun to actually read about Spider-Man. >Really liked the ending for this and what it sets up for not only the future of Spider-Man but the Marvel Universe as a whole. It really feels like we are on the cusp of a new Bendis-Age for Marvel like the 2000’s were and I so hope that Marvel actually locks in for it.
>>156080463sourcehttps://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/profile/comicsupreme/reviews/24260181/the-amazing-spider-man-1002
>>156080463Jesus fuck, this is embarrassing to read.
Well now this is interesting look who is back in the Amazing Spider-Man #1002 is some of the story set in the past is that why SHE is in this? Or could it be Cormac has other powers such as the ability to raise the dead? here we go again everyone.
>>156080463>“You don’t know me, Cormac. You don’t know what I’m capable of. Maybe since you cut me out of her heart… I have nothing to lose.”Edgy
>>156080490I felt like Shelbyville residents sucking lemons reading it.
>>156080622>we have learnt nothing since Parallel Lives>Peter must never learn from, mature and move on, just endless pressing and digging up the past
>>156080645Cormac will go up a grade if he brings up Aunt May found out, forgot and was never told again despite the pain it brought her.Granted it's just pointing out the multiple writers failing to justify a reason for the shit status quo, but it's something.
>>156080673I am more interested in Cormac connection with Gwen Stacy just what the hell does he have to do with her? either that or she is raised from the dead by him in this issue.
>>156080708She is not getting raised from the dead, that's absurd and even for Kelly there is no lead up for this.It's just going to be more MUH GWEN memory lane trauma because BND only have like three tricks.
>>156080729Oh and what you sure she won't there is still so much we don't about Cormac.
>>156080773Nobody gives a fuck about Cormac. The sooner this shit is over the better.
>>156080773Cormac is a filler villain for a filler arc in a filler era.They already blew their load teasing Aunt May dying for #1000, she's not. We're in classic ASM amnesia plot hell, complete with secret evil cousin.
>>156080823Cormac is a better character than Paul at least>>156080584It's just Spider-Gwen. She's the new Gwen Stacy of 616.
>>156080463I’ve turned around on this arc and kinda like it but saying Kelly is locked in is laughable Making Mays health issue into a generic magic macguffin killed some of my interest as it continues the nothing ever happens mantra Peter isn’t going to learn or grow from this arc as it feels primed for more wheel spinning
>>156080798you getting angry does not make matters better and besides who is to say he does not have the power to raise the dead since he can erase people's memories. Bear in mind it is hinted that his ablities are that of magic maybe he can even rewind time.
>>156080866>Cormac is a better character than Paul at leastEven a shallow as a puddle muh nature and nurture rich villain character is still a character. Paul was a plot device that other characters around it broke to support and excuse the background of. MJ bedded this thing smelling the corpses of everyone it killed. Bravo Ewing.>It's just Spider-Gwen. She's the new Gwen Stacy of 616.It's possible Spider-Gwen shows up and was a previous victim of Mac, she had that odd behavior in earlier issues I don't think was explained.
>>156080909You wanting a thing so bad that you read every possibility and chance as a certainty doesn't mean it will happen, Gwenschizo.It's not going to happen. Anymore than the real OG Gwens soul returning during Wells only to leave again.
>>156080866>It's just Spider-Gwen. She's the new Gwen Stacy of 616.We shall see anon we shall see we will to wait untill later for the book to come out unless you happen to have a leak of it right now?
>>156074428Stylization on the face is hideous
>>156074428Fuck off no
>>156074428I'll always want her back.>inb4 but right now she...lol, like anyone should give a fuck about anything post-OMD
>>156081002I don't want her back so long as BND are writing her.Throw her in the same portal as the Animated Series did until it's safe for her to come out and we can pretend nothing happened.
>>156080962Given how much marvel hates MJ and how much they ruined her I not not ruling out any possibilities no matter how much remote or far fetched they are. don't forget now editoral hates MJ and they do want Gwen to be with Peter.
>>156080971>We shall seeSee what? There's more foreshadowing for OMD getting undone than there is for Gwen coming back, and neither is happening. No big announcements for Spider-Man until at least June of next year. Sorry.
>>156081043This. Nothing big until the last of what the Shogun shat out is finished up by mid next year.Then we'll see if Wacker has learnt anything since the BND days, they NEED to course correct hard.
>>156080490>Jesus fuck, this is embarrassing to read.and to tthink the previous issue was actually good. I knew they did it just to boost sales.>So sales are back up now we can go back to shitting writing
>>156081078That's not how the comic writing works, it's set months in advance, this is just their high point being reached and now it's a typical fist fight. Macs powers and costume clash, he looks bizarre and why has his size tripled?They are scoring points just skirting the elephant in the rooms toes, which is that Aunt May should have been the first one to know by Peter once OMIT was done. There has been no valid reason given why it's been kept secret beyond silver age nostalgia at the top.
>>156081043>See what? There's more foreshadowing for OMD getting undone than there is for Gwen coming back, and neither is happening. No big announcements for Spider-Man until at least June of next year. Sorry.You REALLY tthink hey are going to undo OMD after all time lol? you are being played for a sap.
>>156081123NTA but did you read his post? He explicitly said neither is happening.
>>156081155Yeah well I for one convinced that the day will come when they do bring back Gwen but not undo OMD why becauase they HATE Mary Jane that much that's why.
>>156081226That's quite retarded of you.
>>156081335That's what editoral wants however and quite frankely so do I MJ is cheater and whore so the hell with her.
No, we don't.I know the opposite.
>>156081369Editorial wants you to be a retard let them know you're doing a good job
>>156081369The latter is because of the former.
>>156077322women who smell are scary so we will never see her again
>>156081369Sadly Tom Brevoort will never allow Gwen to come back besides which he's in charge of the X-Men he's too important to make angry.
>IM TELLING MOOOMMMYYYY
>>156081466That's got to be edited.
>>156081335The character Mary Jane now has 20 years of history of being one of the worst human beings in Marvel. Its not that she is denying pussy to peter. Its that literally every action she takes comes from a well of unfounded spite that she holds against everything and everyone despite having little discernible reason for even being this angry. Reminder that she got together her former rapist for a couple months just so that she could be ready to be seen with him when her ex returned from going to space, because there was a chance he might have met someone that isnt her while he was in space, and he had to be punished for that by seeing her get with her rapist when he got back.The character is genuinely insane.
>>156081466
>>156081515More bizarre Spider-Gwen/Norman nonsense then.Is there a single reason why this isn't Reed?
>>156081515so much chemistry between them
>>156081418Wacker will fire Tom Brevoort for fucking up X-Men soon.
>>156081514i don't think they got back together I think Pauls place Blew Up. Also I don't think she knew he was in space. The real problem is that she didn't come to help with Hellgate, lol nobody did, and she didn't come to find him after wards.
>>156081515why do they make her look like Gwen Gwen and not spider Gwen. fucking weird.
>>156081385>Editorial wants you to be a retard let them know you're doing a good jobHey if you like cheating whores MJ then that's fine with me. I will just stick o sweet and pure Gwen happy now.
>>156081678sure she will peter>I choose Cormac over you peter since he is a much better son then you Oh and i know you sold your marriage with MJ to mephisto thanks to Cormac get the hell now out of my life Peter.
>>156081678This is all so daft.
>>156079171Then why did mephisto say their love was like no other. Mary Jane and Perter Parker are not a "ship". They are not like anything else, you might not like how it is written, but the they are a OTP. She shouldn't sleeping with other men and i can tell you from sales nobody is interested in reading about it. Peter shouldn't be sleeping around either.
>>156081678I mean its nice to see Laraz draw Peter with some intensity, as he normally draws a dopey peter.
>>156081829piss off.
>>156074428Come home to DC, Western Comics Man.
>>156081771Yeah by the looks of thiings peter is getting more and more dumber if he thinks may will choose him over cormac what a dumbass.
>>156081678Peter Parker a true idiot by the looks of thiings.
>>156081955Keep safe and away from here, real MJ in WitPro.
>>156081955Yeah, Superboy Prime is one lucky bastard.Real talk—what are the odds of DC ruining Witchfire the way Marvel ruined MJ? Inquiring minds want to know.
>>156082154Gail drew Paul Rabin and there is https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Mephistopheles_(Earth-One) do it's not like they couldn't.
>>156081678LMAO>To be Peter is suffering.
>>156080463Was this wigger told to get in line.
>>156082154None at present, the force that was behind OMD and much of MJ's continued character assassination isn't there at DC.Besides, OMD was originally a DC idea that was too terrible for DC. Then Marvel did it and proved all the reasons why not to do it.Realistically, Williamson will write them well together for as long as he is on. The issue is always the baton toss, whether they get something like a Wells equivalent is the question.
>>156074428How appropriate she's on a motorcycle, because she belongs to the streets!
>>156081466>>156081485He's being sarcastic, and mocking Cormac>>156081515LOOKS LIKE SPIDER-GWEN IS THE REAL GWEN OF 616 NOW, PERMANENTLY! SHE HAS THE HAIRBAND SHE HAS THE LONG HAIR LONG LIVE THE ONE TRUE GWEN SPIDER-GWEN NO MORE DEAD BLONDE WHORES GOD BLESS TOM BREVOORT A NEW GWEN AND A TRUE GWEN
>>156082154>>156082325Witchfire and Prime are comic fans and they wouldn’t ever sell their relationship to a demon. That and they have experience fighting demons.
>>156081611She's Spider-Gwen now.>>156081572He's staying in the move to Burbank he's staying FOREVER sorry Gwenfags but your suffering has only begun he's going to ruin the X-Men and he's going to replace Gwen with Spider-Gwen
>>156081590Because Spider-Gwen erased the original Gwen by accident when she came over to 616 to replace her
>>156082361>LOOKS LIKE SPIDER-GWEN IS THE REAL GWEN OF 616 NOW, PERMANENTLY! SHE HAS THE HAIRBAND SHE HAS THE LONG HAIR LONG LIVE THE ONE TRUE GWEN SPIDER-GWEN NO MORE DEAD BLONDE WHORES GOD BLESS TOM BREVOORT A NEW GWEN AND A TRUE GWENspamming won't get you back the marriage or change the fact that Mary Jane is a cheater
>>156082417TOM BREVOORT HAS TRULY WON NO MORE GWEN ONLY SPIDER-GWEN AND LOTS MORE X-MENX-MEN WOOBABY
Gwenschizo is the type of faggot to castrate himself. How do I know? Read what he types.
>>156082417Uh oh Mephistofags... Chip Zdarsky is coming...What's the quickest way to erase the deal Mephisto made with Peter??? Well, kill off Mephisto!Tick Tock...
>>156082361>He's being sarcastic, and mocking CormacI know what he's doing, but the sarcasm doesn't fly when this really is two grown men fighting over the attention of a geriatric mother figure.
>>156082508They really had to toss Peter at an even bigger manchild just to make Peter seem less pathetic than the villain
>>156074428>rise in asian mj art.Based
>>156082519To Cormac! He's Paul actually done right!To Cormac! He's our Paul 2.0!To Cormac! He's the superior Paul!
>>156082519It just kind of highlights how after two runs that start by blowing up Peters life, there is nothing left to burn.They are at the point of introducing never before seen childhood friends to turn evil, and fighting over the Archon that Aunt May has become. Hell goddamn Ben makes a point of what a shitshow Peters absent life is, but then nothing is made about it.You can actually hear the bottom of the barrel scraping, this is what happens when nothing of substance is made.
>>156082621We're really in a situation where Peter has no supporting cast left. All he has is May right now.
>>156082633He also has the two/three pet aliens he has at home, and seems to have no problem maintaining his secret identity with.Roger from American Dad makes more of an effort.
>>156082663It's really hard to understand what the fuck people think they're reading when they say Kelly's run is good. Is it better than Wells? It's less openly hostile to fans, I guess, but it's all been a bunch of bullshit without any real direction.We have no reason to care about the things that are happening. Why should we care about this new old friend Brian when it's never clear that Peter cares about him? What is Hellgate even about? Why was it so traumatic to Peter that he has to ... go to space? What the fuck was the point of Ben showing up to sabotage Peter's job? We'll never know because not even Kelly cares. Are we supposed to care about the aliens in Peter's apartment? They haven't actually been an inconvenience to him and he barely interacts with them. And Cormac is such a hack character and story, it's honestly not surprising that Lowe approved it because it seems like the only point is to further isolate Peter, kind of like every other Spider-Man story for the last 15 years.This shit fucking sucks.
>>156083069I simply think the new Lowe standard is just to not actively punish people for previous emotional investment, so people say Kellys run is the best in years because that's a technically true statement, Kelly's run is the best in one of the most creatively bankrupt and exploitative eras of ASM. It's still beyond shit, and wouldn't be accepted in any other medium, and only succeeds here because ASM really is just too big to fail at present. It would die eventually as no new audience is going to be drawn to this, but speculators get their variants and gottahavemyspider-man has something that's not got open vitriol for them like Wells run was.It's still fucking bottom barrel garbage, there's just such a low bar to be better than the predecessor.
>>156075763>>156082417Mephistoniggers... it's over. It's all gone. Doctor Doom has erased Quesada's legacy. All contracts are now null and void, and Mephisto is officially a cuck.
>>156083281>Uh um Marvel will never betray my GOAT Mephisto, uh, this isn't set up for One More Day getting shitcanned, hurr hurr hu->OH FUCK NO AAAAA SAVE ME GWEN STACY
>>156083281Huh.How they going to toybox this shit?
>>156083281How do I know that Mephisto would stay dead if he is not buried as a Christian like Paul Rabin?
On one hand there are many that would accept the most hand wave explanation that gets rid of OMD.On the other, it then falls on this current barren crop of talent to write them together again and repair the century of shame.So don't know how to feel. This Apocalypse arc is daft and dumb like most events, would rather this be a more targeted thing in the ongoing itself if they really are going there, but then Kelly is writing.
>>156083326Interesting that we smash cut to Spider-Man the nanosecond Mephisto gets all his contracts rendered null and void HMM... HMMMMMM
>>156083434Gwenschizo is literally rolling over in his grave.
>>156083281>>156083326>Doom accidentally creates a timeline where Peter and MJ are back together again, yet again
>>156083434It's almost as if no one gives a shit about the niggerman when he was whored out to Mephisto for a pajeeta. Now that begs the question, does this mean the pajeeta dies?
>>156083281>loses to Sister Sorrow>loses to Doom seconds after LITERALLY CLAIMING HIS SOULMephisto has never been a credible or competent villain!
>>156083458Wait never mind, don't answer it. Nobody cares about the civilians the niggerman practically killed off. They basically choose to remain in hell. I guess the pajeeta remains to be alive by that.
>>156083434Do we know where Chip actually stands on the marriage? I don't think I've ever seen him say anything about it outside of "I can't undo OMD"
>>156083517He seems to favor it, at least if Life Story is any indication.
>>156083281>>156083326Whoah... Paul was so bad that he killed OMD along with him.
>>156083281>>156083326MUH LEGACY NOOOOO
>>156083502Well he had to be hard carried by the editor and entire cast holding the idiot ball, and Peter somehow forgetting what happened to Ghost Rider.
>>156083566I mean he killed MJ's character as well so long as Dead Language isn't retconned or addressed better.That said it is funny how much of an accelerant he, Shay and Wells was for everything wrong with BND getting showcased so fast.
>>156083612Wells tried to create a back to basics BND throwback run and accidentally utterly destroyed BND's legacy.
>>156083629It was like a crash-course on all critics have been saying for years condensed into a single run. A bitter one couldn't make a parody more pointed than what he made.
>>156083646If I were Joe Kelly, I wouldn't be pissed off at the fans or the critics. I'd be pissed off at Zeb Wells.
>>156083685I would be thankful if this is the limits of my writing skill, I could print blank pages between variant covers and many people would still say unironically mine was a better run.He has no bar to surpass, but he hasn't got any interest repairing the damage and blew up Peters life again, so he's got nothing to work with now.
>>156083689It's why I think Marvel is starting to realize that they need One More Day gone. They're still half-assing it, they won't bring the marriage back immediately afterwards, but I'm convinced that the Mephisto deal is no longer going to be hanging over everyone's head like a retarded black cloud.
>>156083709Problem is then what? You need some extremely skilled writers to piece this broken relationship and characterization back together, I don't see the will or talent in the Spoffice under Lowe. Can you imagine Kelly writing this shit?It's likely if it happens MJ would go on an airplane (again) to take some time to process ie a writer who actually gives a shit does a JMS reunion part 2.
>>156083793If Kelly doesn't want to write ASM he can give it to Spencer.
>>156083942Think Spencer is blackballed from the Spoffice and wouldn't want to work with them again anyway, it will be interesting the stories we hear once the NDA's expire.Hell the most interesting story the Wells run has is how the fuck it got made, that's what we're all still waiting for.
>>156083963Give it to Zdarsky, his Avengers run is basically going to be Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends.
>>156074756Kill yourself.
>>156083968Could Zdarsky work with Gomez?
>>156083590They are not bringing back the marriage, MJ will be fucking Flash or somebody else to kick the can down the road.
>>156079546Shut the fuck up, Priest.
>>156074428The only proper way to "fix" OMD is for Peter to find "real" Peter and MJ in Mephisto's realm and they were there in stasis since OMD. Then he frees them and disintegrates along with fake-MJ
>>156084495That sounds lame as hell.
>>156079546With no due respect, this is a shit take.
>>156084277They will be killing OMD, and probably Mephisto too though.
>>156085606Fuck my bad. I didn't see this was already posted.
>>156076197I unironically look like that version of Paul except I don't wear glasses.
>>156085178He's a jeet so...>>156084505And yet it's better then OMD and is a much better ending to that dumpsterfire IP ruining retardation then it deserves. I would prefer peter parker waking up from a coma and after a few days of recovery reads a news article where a drunk driver that looks exactly like joey q was arrested for hitting him.
>>156084495Lame. Make them face the consequences of their choices and severity of their actions and slowly reconcile what they did This leads to a stronger, healthier relationship between them.
>>156085826You're implying these consequences are the result of the characters we enjoyed actually making choices that were in line with what took place previously in a sane world where the writers weren't pathetic TV burnouts like Bendis or thumbhead IP welfare collecting faggots like Quesadilla.Nigga, erase OMD and do what that anon said. These aren't MJ and Peter. They are simulacrum. They have been written OOC for too long and trying to justify this chasm between classic Spider-Man and post-OMD was what Spencer tried to do but he got canned by Lowe, the faggot. Nigga has to be buckbroken at a con by all the fans screaming that he is a hack who doesn't do shit.
given All the OMD stuff teased they are definitely going to do something in the mini that will prevent Peter and MJ from rekindling anything. Not sure what, but they want you tuned in.
>>156085826I don't know how you can reconcile their actions between OMD and any resolution proper. Everything from MJ's godawful disintegration unable to tell Spock from Peter, unsympathy to his plight, Peters myriad of partners and flings and MJ sleeping with the world killer that ate her soul for a run to live her living nightmare with a stepford smile.You could say Mephisto was influencing their minds as part of the deal, it would certainly explain how fucking OOC they randomly act between writer changes. Of course then you've opened up a whole can of worms about to what extent their minds were influenced when dating around.
>>156086523Fuck that. OMD is undone by Ghostrider punching Mephisto in the dick. Spiderman wakes up married to a heavily pregnant MJ next to him says "the fuck kind of dream was that" and falls asleep next to her. Rubbing her belly. She says "morning tiger" before he says "You will never guess what kind of dream I had". Every storyline including shit side characters like paul, everything to do with spock flash venom and dylan for the last 20 years is thrown out and everyone acts as if they never happened. Anyone who bitches is named shamed and blackballed.
Best of luck Marvel fans, from a DC fan. I hope you guys end up winning and getting the marriage back.
>>156086578I mean based but not going to happen because only Joe Q and his cronies get to just shrug and say it's magic we don't need to explain it.It would be extremely funny if we go the long way round to end up where Stan Lee's newspaper strip did 19 years ago.
>>156086657It's only a fourth of the journey Prime chad.>need new staff and talent like we should have had a decade ago>we need a reconciliation/repair on par with Spencer to sweep up the still burning Wells and Slott mess (Kelly is just such a placeholder run everyone can ignore it), >we need JMS levels of relationship reunion and then a return to ensemble civilian/superheroics romcom antics with a balancing act between responsibilities, following the Defalco model where Peter is more interesting to read the more responsibilities he hasOnly then can we say ASM has shaken off this leprosy. Still, it's a major shock them even key jangling this hard. They KNOW their mandate of heaven has broken, their vision is busted and rejected, but they won't go or change their minds.
>>156086657They should make a Prime Movie about Prime writing a Fanfic of Peter an MJ undoing OMD and getting married again. then he tries to get marvel to accept the idea and hire him as a writer, Dan Slott and Joe Q are the main villains but they are presented as puppets.
>>156086867>HELLO HOME WRECKER>GUESS WHAT TIME IT IS?
>>156085759Slut
>>156085759they are hell bent on making her an non Spidey character.
>>156074428Mj sex
>>156088433That can’t be true because she has a symbiote now.
>>156082417>>156083281>>156083326Mephisto fans getting a century of humiliation over OMD. Mephisto is getting the same treatment Paul did before he was killed off.
>>156088783Nigga, I know symbiotes are spider-related and they should be but fuck, are they now divorced from what made them kino. This whole company is divorced from what made them kino. 90's Marvel would have She-VenoMJ in a cool design and do sexy/fun things. Nope modern Marvel said. They decided to become as gay, old, and tranny as possible.
>>156086670Nta, but if enough fans exactly say verbatim that we can similarly shrug and say post-OMD never happened, then it will mindbreak them until it is done. Simple as that. I've got inhuman patience to do this.
>>156090456Simplify that and exclude Mephisto from Faust mythos because Faust himself has literally never been introduced.
Why does she look oriental in half of these? This is the worst day of my life.
>>156090689>worst dayWeird segue. Anyway, a lot of artists try to depict sexy women with half-closed eyes because I dunno, a bunch of supermodels do it. It's like bedroom eyes or something. Some of them overdo it.
>>156083281>>156083326None of this will be brought up in ASM, will they?
>>156092683WASTEDPOTENTIALBRAVOEWING
>>156092756It’s okay anon.She has the anti-carnage Fang symbiote now. Since it doesn’t have much mass, the suit will be extra skintight.
>>156092756Venomverse Anne Weying is the best She-Venom host anyway.
>>156092966I'm more just flummoxed that we could have had a real vitriolic throwdown and throwout with Paul that the audience has been desperate for, and then a yandere arc with Peter.Instead Paul got a more gentle and caring break up for a trauma bond than Peter who had bought a ring.They just make you pay and be punished for being emotionally invested. So you stop being invested. And then you stop paying attention beyond shitposting.
>>156092966Nobody cares about that symbiote faggot.>>156093033I like nervous but aroused 616 Anne. It's too bad they had her suddenly commit suicide because they le hated Venom.>>156093066ANV design is shit and ugly. So I don't wanna see it anymore. The way to do a She-VenoMJ arc is sloghtly before Peter and MJ decide to have a kid or slightly after Mayday is born. That way you can write MJ as normal being corrupted by having too much fun but then she breaks free and the symbiote learns more on how prevent that type of situation from happening again. Better control of hosts and hosts better control of the symbiote. That would be an interesting motivation for the Other. If it started to try and methodically deduce how to create better bonds while maintaining monk-like temperance and seeking to teach other symbiotes. But yes, yandere She-VenoMJ would still appear at some point.An AU would also be good. Perhaps during college or high school.
>>156093540I think the cratered sales of ANV showed how whatever they tried with VenoMJ, it failed miserably.I have no idea why they latched so much time, space and energy to the manbun black hole, it cost them money and reputation.
>>156093658Nick Lowe hoped that Paul was a character who could be redeemed with the audience and Al Ewing loves a challenge. Sacrificing story for an agenda is to be expected when it comes to Spider-Man.
>>156093869Paul has killed a planet, he was the responsible CEO or whatever in charge and his negligence and exploitation of his own mentally ill father lead to the death of his planet. He then apparently felt good enough about himself to play house and go on spa trips with his girlfriend. Nothing added up. MJ acted like she was living with her cult leader.There was no redeeming him, because beyond a few panels and cheap words he never acted like he did anything wrong. Someone in his position with an ounce of empathy is on suicide watch, and would likely need to be coaxed into a altruistic monk existence for any form of acceptance by the audience.
>>156074428She is too whorish. Sorry bro. The world changed. Young men despise whores. At least the ones reading comic books. For Spider-man to go back to her, would be worse than losing her forever. She rode every cock in the marvel universe.The Raimi movies didnt do her any favor either. The consensus is that Norman saw trough her at first glance. Reels with million likes. Ursula becoming the favorite woman of the trilogy.I just watched Spider-man tas and that version of Black Cat is so fucking superior to MJ and Gwen, its no contest.Its over. Too tainted.
>>156085826>(you)r wife: I know I cucked you, but we can both learn from thisThis is something you dream every night right?
Shut the fuck up and post more pictures of MJ's fatass.>>156094027shut up fag. Also we know it you gwenschizo, appealing to Blackcat fans aren't going to help you.
>>156095371I think you are the schizo here friend
>>156095455What does that have to do with. MJ's ass?
>>156095371What did that post have to do with Black Cat? I think you replied to the wrong anon.
>>156095771Probably
>>156085826Normally I'd agree with you, but isn't she 3 years older than him now? There's no other way to fix this but to do some reality bending shit.
>>156095973They aren't going to put anymore thought into that than they did thinking about the implications of Dead Language.We are dealing with bottom of the barrel writing here.
>>156082522Spider-Man gets all the hottest bitches MJ is such a baddie
>>156074428plappable
