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    >>156063874
    Poor Scotty, he doesn't know
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    Peter's that guy she tells Scott not to worry about.
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    >>156064384
    >>156063874
    How to acquire bites gf?
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    >>156063874
    This artist drew them fucking. It's up on rule 34
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    >>156064510
    Damn
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    >>156063874
    > the century of Kekclops continues
    lmao, X-Men 24 gave them the slightest inch of hope just to have the MCU rewrite his gf getting fucked by another iconic manlet. KWABclops
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    >>156063874
    I don't get it
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    >>156065539
    it’s drone bait like all comic book goy slop enjoyers you’re all just my little drone baits!
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    >>156065990
    What the fuck is a drone bait
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    >>156066190
    You're replying to a schizo
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    >>156064490
    >the worst time ever
    and yet im jealous of his life
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    i have 0 faith Marvel will do anything interesting or compelling with this pairing, or has any plans for these characters. i'll bet my left nut that at most they'll just briefly say hi to each other in some crossover movie. the main reason i think this is because for BND the writers weren't even sure who the antagonist was gonna be and slotted Jean in relatively late in the creative process, indicating that they don't see her as more than a one time antagonist for Spiderman
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    Didn't she kill or at least badly injure a shit ton of people? Sure she had it rough but Peter of all people wouldn't accept that as a justification.
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    >>156067136
    true but she didn't fuck paul
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    >>156064510
    Nice, the fact MCU Jean art keeps coming out fills me with joy in ways you wouldn't believe.
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    >>156066999
    Jean was in this movie specifically to introduce the X-Men into the marbel universe as characters who are misunderstood or possibly villainous from an outside perspective, but fighting to be recognized in a society that views them as a dangerous minority of aberrants. Marvel has no plans for spider-grey because she already canonically has her entire life planned out for her with her son and her grandkids from the far future with cycucks.

    In fact wolverine having a crush on jean is pointless because jean is basically made for cydick.
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    >>156067136
    Peter literally says at the end of the movie that she's not a killer, therefore he canonically confirmed Jean hadn't killed anyone up to that point.
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    >>156064384
    Scotty doesn't know,
    That MJ and me,
    Do it in my van every Sunday.
    She tells him she's in church,
    But she doesn't go,
    Still shes on her knees,
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    >>156067439
    Yeah that was bullshit. She set off a powerful explosive in an occupied building and got a guy hit by a truck on screen.
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    >>156064510
    Artist name? I'm a lazy fuck.
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    >>156067898
    just search jean grey, it will be one of the first things you see, she rarely ever gets hentai
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    >>156067813
    The guy that got hit by a truck was confirmed alive, you see him in the credits. We only have Word of God for the guys that got exploded though.
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    >>156067439
    That’s pure cope. He’s comforting her by saying she’s not a killer at heart. She 100% caused people to die.
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    >>156067396
    I don't think they would have cast a gayman as Cyclops if they were that committed to pairing Jean up with him.
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    >>156067439
    Peter also told her that what she did to MJ was unforgivable and then he forgave her anyways
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    >>156068659
    Why is Peter so wishy washy?
    >>156067526
    kek
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    >>156063874
    Literal who "leaker" saying Jean x Scott will be in Secret Wars. How does that make sense if they haven't even met yet?
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    >>156067898
    Chatgpt
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    >>156069384
    That's not a fucking leak. That's just some dork making a hypothetical
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    >>156067396
    >Marvel has no plans for spider-grey because she already canonically has her entire life planned out for her with her son and her grandkids from the far future with cycucks.
    The MCU changes shit all the time, retard.
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    I hope we get a 1610 Wolverine situation in the MCU rather than the standard 616 adaptation like Fox’s Wolverine was.
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    >>156069613
    You mean Logan being an outright scumbag and ploughing teen Jean right away?
    Based....
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    >>156069586
    thats a dork leaker liking a dorks hypothetical.
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    I pray to the One Above All that this ship happens.
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    >>156063874
    Why use pedo art as op pic? I would not let a 15 year old suck my fingers or put their legs on my cock
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    >>156068043
    too much trouble, just post the link
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    >>156069707
    I admit, I dig it. Even though I'm all for Peter taking Jean's v-max
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    >>156063874
    How long until Peter sells this relationship to Linkara to save Aunt May again?
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    >>156067396
    i'm well aware of that. it just leaves me wondering what the point of Peter and Jean's interactions in BND is. it's narratively clumsy to center Jean's origin story and her "rehabilitation" around Spiderman and it's weird to do the whole you-have-me/catch-the-bullet/breathe-for-him if they will ultimately be irrelevant to each other.

    BND seemed like the construction of a foundation for a future relationship (i don't mean romantic, i mean a character relationship) for Peter and Jean. if there are 0 plans for that then BND just seems like it wastes time on something that won't matter
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    >>156071141
    Never ever, gay goy. Out.
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    This scene broke me
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    >>156071830
    It also broke Peter's back carrying the MCU alone
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    This will mean nothing. No foundation for the future is being built in these scenes, it's all just drama meant for this one single movie.

    Peter and Jean will become strangers in future films. The best you can hope for is a brief hello in some future crossover movie. Marvel plans to pair Jean up with Cyclops, and Tom Holland is a pathetic doormat who thinks pairing his Spiderman up with someone other than Zendaya would be a betrayal of his marriage.

    I don't like it either but you should accept this unfortunate truth now. If you cling to false hopes, your disappointment will be greater in the future.
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    >>156064510
    isnt it the same guy who does Ren/Kawakami memes
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    >>156072058
    shaddup
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    >>156072058
    Dr. Doom will reset the universe anyway
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    >>156068229
    >>156067813
    >>156068083
    The old man was a mutant with iron skin. The people in the explosion were horribly maimedbut alive
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    I'm gonna rewatch brand new day, I think it's time
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    How do Scottfags cope? He has been precucked even before entering the MCU
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    >>156073484
    we know marvel will uncuck him in a few years so we don't have to cope, just be patient
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    Jean Grey possessing a cat and trying to get pets from Peter.
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    >>156064510
    >>156067898
    Artist? Are you fucking kidding me that's so obviously AI it might as well just have it said so in bold letters.

    >>156069420
    Thank you, I thought I was going insane.
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    What’s the first thing you’ll do if you find out SpiderPhoenix is becoming canon?
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    >>156074179
    It's just their style, you can just call it a bad style if anything if you don't like it. If you hate something you gotta do it right.
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    >>156064456
    This is unironically the greatest thing this ship has produced.
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    >>156074262
    The text feels very AI at the very least. I assume if this artist is legit he's feeding his art into grok or chatgpt to put in the text for him or translate it from his original language.
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    >>156074497
    Hmmm, I'll remember you if it turns out they use AI (with hard proof.)
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    >>156063874
    Is this a porn comic?
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    >reading a fic
    >"well actually jean is a clone called madel--"
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    >>156075969
    People who do this are either trying to address how hostile this Jean is compared to the standard Jean characterization or they are trying to have a "real Jean" who can end up with Scott in their au
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    New art.
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    Brand New Day or whatever the last one was struck me as more "comic booky" than most other MCU offerings.
    Not that it's super accurate to the comic really, just that it captures the vibe better.
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    >>156076671
    it's not really comic accurate, but it feels like a comic storyline, it's just an alternate universe
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    >>156076695
    Yes that's what I'm trying to say.
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    >>156073412
    no one will have as much beef with you as a girl you don't even knkw
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    >>156077435
    *know
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    >You don't have to do this alone. Trust me I've been trying. It doesn't work. (...) You have me.
    >But when I say 'you have me' I only mean it for the next few minutes. Because after that, I'll go back to pretending I'm still in high school and stalking my former friends who don't know I exist.
    >And you? I guess you can abruptly leave town without saying goodbye, as if nothing happened. That'd be funny, especially if I do something like dramatically saving your life or something.
    >When I said 'you have me' it might have seemed like I was implying that we can elegantly solve our crippling loneliness by being there for each other from now on. But that's not what I meant at all. We're probably never going to see each other again after this so when I say 'you have me', don't overthink it.
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    >>156077913
    it was a metaphor or something
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    >>156077913
    newfound siblings
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    >>156074262
    Bro, it's obviously AI. It's not about good or bad.

    The tex was added on later, you can see it's very crappy and it obviously wasn't considered that it will be added. The lighting comes from the top for some parts and from the side on others. There is a small inconsistencies between the same character from one panel to the next. The character reactions feel antinatural. You can even see the pixels from where he pasted on some panels, like Jean in the "So if I bite you" one. The reaction of Peter feels abnormal (the little ouch)

    It's not that I am calling it bad, I am saying it looks AI. Like some guy that prompted some stuff, edited it, and posted it.

    If I am wrong, that's just the most AI looking thing I have ever seen from a guy. And just to be clear I am not talking about the style that, yes, does look AI but to be fair the AI must have trained with something. Do know that if this "artist" came out in the last few years, I very much would call it a 100% chance this is AI.

    I had seem stuff, clearly and openly called AI generated, in Panda that looks exactly like that.

    Here is an example, and it was just the first thing I found.
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    >>156079190
    What's the appeal of malfoid?
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    >>156074262
    >>156079190
    Hell, this guys are cleaner. I will eat my words, anon, if you show me his workflow (you know how artists that draw too much like AI sometimes show sketches and whatnot)
    But as of right now, that looks pretty artificial to me.

    Tangential, but, isn't it insane that people pay other people to use AI for them?
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    >>156079273
    No idea, it was just really the one of the first clean galeries (as if with at least 1 or 2 sfw pics) I found in panda with "AI_generated" that was a comic of sorts.

    People like their rule 63, their bratty rich blonds, and their hatefucks I imagine.
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    >>156079190
    >>156079328

    I really, really need to stop and read what I wrote before posting. This reads as if I was drunk, I kept forgetting I was already writing something and doing it again.
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    I rewatched BND and man it'll really be disappointing if the Peter/Jean stuff truly goes nowhere. If these two are just meant to be a one-time thing with no relevance for the future, the creators of the movie went waaaay too far with all the shit that happens between them in the last part of the movie.
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    >>156079554
    it would suck so much if they threw it all away, this movie opened the door for so much cool stuff, Peter interacting with the X-Men is the type of shit that's 20 years in the making
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    >>156076637
    I love them so much. I want what they have!
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    >>156074262
    I've a fan of Persona so I've been familiar with Neggo for some time. I believe at the start he drew legit but over time just became too used to AI. There was a picture of Jean and Peter where her outfit was totally different in that it was a green hoodie and a yellow jacket. Someone who drew a a picture of them and had references is not likely to make that mistake. It is such a shame too because he is one of the few who "draws" the hag characters from Persona 5 consistently and I want to fuck all of them.
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    >>156079273
    Goyim have discovered genderbent tsundere and have gone insane
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    I don't get why people are so desperate to see MCU Pete get a proper white ginger gf this badly.
    I want to see him get an Asian gf. Revive that era of thinly veiled writer's fetish by introducing Silk.
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    >>156080133
    Marvel should invest in Doom Sue then
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    >>156077913
    This is what Scorsese meant
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    >>156080094
    He's just like Shexyo and Kisou. Both started drawing and then switched to ai
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    >>156080134
    Funny, at least one version of Peter has an Asian telepath as his endgame
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    >>156080133
    Why ship him with a socialpath.
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    >>156081142
    Sociopath is an actual medical diagnosis. Jean is completely aware of the social consequences of her actions. She's just evil.
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    >>156081187
    I love her because of that. I want a psycho STINKY girlfriend!
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    >Jean is in different clothes in the DODC meaning they forcibly changed her
    >back in her old clothes after escaping
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    >>156081420
    Did they undress her?
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    How many more weeks before the mods send this shit to /tv/ where it belongs?
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    >>156081309
    Date a trans girl
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    >>156082074
    He said GIRLfriend, anon. Trannies aren't girls and there is a significant difference between unwashed natural female and rotting tranny hole.
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    >>156081781
    2 more weeks
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    Most of the hentai of this ship is lovey dovey and it feels wrong to see Peter willfully dominating Jean in some of the smuttier fanart
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    >>156082560
    Yeah obviously Jean would be more dominant in a mean way while Peter would be more dominant in a loving way.
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    Funny. Spider-man was one of the only marvel characters implied to exist in the X-men Evolution universe, since they read the bugle
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    >>156080094
    what did he do to get banned from Twitter of all places
    can't find him
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    >>156073412
    I-is Jean one of us? I could see her visiting /k/ and /pol/
    >>156082074
    Those abominations are NOT girls.
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    >>156084841
    Sadie's slim figure fits Jean's physique so well. Being a telepath it makes sense she wouldn't work out much.
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    >Tom Holland: no no i refuse to kiss anyone other than Zendaya! i am so faithful to my lovely wife that not only do i never think about other women, but i don't even let the fictional characters i play think about other women!
    >meanwhile Zendaya:
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    >>156085584
    >AI slop peddled by africans
    I can barely tolerate AI 2D but AI 3D is extra PD.
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    >>156081142
    Evil women were designed by God to be loved on by good men.
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    >>156085699
    Praise be The One Above All
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    >>156085694
    I really love this one, she looks so cute and their little race felt like a flirting game.
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    >>156085699
    Hot!
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    >>156086486
    they end up in the middle of a marriage, where Jean says Spider-Man is in a race for the love of his life...
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    >>156086516
    Exactly. Jean looks like she'd be a playful fiery girlfriend.
    https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BY8T6ZEwV/
    What's up with redheads being like that?
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    >>156072058
    You could make a Loss template out of that.
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    >>156081133
    Which one?
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    >>156063874
    Everyone talks about the good part, but what about the bad parts of dating a woman like Jean Grey?
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    >>156087165
    She'd probably be needy and jealous
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    >>156087165
    i think everyone can inherently see what can go wrong when dating an emotionally unstable young woman who also has access to mind control and telekinesis, and her emotional outbursts tend to involve the entire city
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    >>156087165
    watch the first half of Brand New Day
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    >>156087165
    breaking up with her is not an option, so if you get involved with her you'd better be in it for the long haul
    (or just annoy her enough to make her break up with you, but good luck accomplishing that without the telepath figuring out your true agenda)
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    >>156088011
    >watch the first half of Brand New Day
    ...I fail to see anything wrong with what she did. Nothing as hot as spending an afternoon building bombs with your stinky terrorist redhead girlfriend.
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    >>156088065
    if you try pulling that shit off you're getting the Bobby treatment
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    omg peter hi! :3
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    Reminder that the ones who see it as a sibling relationship do so because they don't know what a relationship where the two people have a real bond looks like. They only know toxic ones and assume that's the rule.
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    >>156089093
    I love my little potato!
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    >>156089695
    this anon's name is PETER PARKER
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    >>156089903
    Do you think Becket could have motivated Jean to seek Peter before he reset everyone's memories?
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    >>156089967
    depends if Sara was taken away before the events of NWH, and I don't think she was
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    >>156089991
    Was it ever revealed when it happened?
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    >>156090402
    no, we just know that Sara stayed at Damage control for months and that Jean started her search for her a few weeks before the events of the movie
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    >>156088011
    Jean did NOTHING wrong!
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    >>156090890
    >we just know that Sara stayed at Damage control for months and that Jean started her search for her a few weeks before the events of the movie
    Wait, really? I thought Jean was searching for her way, way longer than that. Is it said anywhere in the movie how long she's been searching? I must have missed it.
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    >>156090912
    I think Yelena says that the attacks at Damage Control buildings have been happening for a few weeks when she first mentions "V-Max"
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    >>156091000
    Eh. The duration of Sara's disappearance and the time when Jean started flat out assaulting Damage Control facilities might not be the same thing. It's possible that Sara was abducted and Jean spent some time trying to track down leads in a sensible quiet manner, and only resorted to loudly kicking down doors once enough time passed for her to get desperate.
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    >>156091000
    Sara's kidnapping and the V-max message are two different events. V-max happened a few weeks before the events of the movie, but Sara's kidnapping happened way earlier. Could be months, could be more than a year.
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    >>156091040
    What I mean is that Jean only started attacking DODC facilities after she received the "V-Max" message a few weeks ago, which was when Sara died. I'm sure she spent some time doing other stuff before
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    >>156091155
    Metzger mentions that it took months of testing with Sara to get that machine working
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    >>156088084
    >stinky terrorist redhead girlfriend.

    piss in the sink
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    >>156064470
    Become a superhero
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    >>156091283
    Is she into that?
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    >>156092281
    I really like this costume for Jean
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    >>156072058
    you're probably right

    it's funny that so many people in the fandom are passionately arguing whether Marvel should progress Peter and Jean's relationship into a mentor thing, or brother and sister, or very close friends, or a romantic relationship of some kind. they're all just assuming that BND was the start of their interactions, as if Marvel consistently follows through with this stuff

    meanwhile in reality Marvel has zero plans for there to be any kind of relationship. Tom Holland just wants to film himself doing backflips in the spidey costume while ocassionally pining over Zendaya, and just sees Sadie Sink's character as a one-off antagonist in one of his movies. on the other side, Marvel desperately need the new X-Men to succeed so they're gonna bank hard on Jean being the main character, and they'll be scrambling to introduce other characters like Cyclops as soon as possible (probably already in Secret Wars). these two worlds will barely overlap, probably not at all.

    it'll be hilarious when everyone who argued about the details of Jean and Peter's dynamic just gets hit with the nuke of there being no dynamic at all

    sad but it is what it is
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    Jean loves Big Green Cock
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    >Tom Holland: i'm not gonna let any of the characters i portray kiss any women! i'm that loyal to my wife Zendaya
    >meanwhile Zendaya:
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    >>156094531
    the only movie I know where he had a love interest that wasn't Zendaya was Uncharted, and I don't even think he kisses the girl in that one
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    >>156092907
    This. Marvel's priority is building out the universe. The character dynamics don't actually matter so much as the hype moments and aural . Look at Hulk and Peter in this movie, they literally just pretend they have their dynamic from the comics. IN THIS VERY MOVIE they break the logic of the MCU for fanservice. They will always do this. Forever.
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    >>156095481
    I hope they take this opportunity to improve the relationships instead of resetting everything
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    >>156063874
    I want her to have a rivalry with the symbiote.
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    >>156063874
    This the Olicity of the MCU isn't it?
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    >>156063874
    run petey, she'll make you gay like iceman!
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    >>156098319
    More like the reylo
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    >>156099227
    Really beautiful, thank you anon!
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    Are there no therapists in the MCU?
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    >>156098646
    reylo actually happened in the end...
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    >>156098319
    No, because this won't actually happen.
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    It might happen in a comic AU but the MCU would be taking a huge risk trying this. If every Zendaya stan stopped watching it would be noticable
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    >>156100640
    Is that bitch really that famous? She isn't even that pretty
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    >>156100695
    >Is that bitch really that famous?
    She is extremely famous among women.
    >She isn't even that pretty
    That's part of why she's extremely famous among women.
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    >>156100756
    Letting women join comic book communities was a mistake!
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    >>156098319
    >>156098646
    But this will be better written, hopefully.
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    Maybe some Japanese writer will write a manga about them in the future.
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    >>156102319
    Only if its a fujo writer so she writes smut
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    >>156102366
    PeterJean is weirdly popular with asian fujos for some reason
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    >>156100640
    >If every Zendaya stan stopped watching it would be noticable
    No, retard
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    >>156098646
    I can't wait for PeterJean to completely transform the media landscape as we know it.
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    >>156103264
    I actually think we might start getting some off-brand versions in a few years
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    >>156063874
    AI animated series Anon here.

    I'm happy to announce that my 40 minutes pilot episode is finally up.

    >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHWWRU3cnvY&list=PLI48RCLtlqAw

    Like written in the comment, first time doing this, and various art styles were tried in the process. But I really had fun with making this.

    Hope some of you will enjoy it as well!
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    >>156103979
    Awesome! I will advertise it
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    Owari da...
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    >>156104673
    how am I supposed to fap to safipricefield now
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    >>156104625
    Thanks. Remember to like, subscribe, and stuff like that.
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    >Patrick Stewart has passed away

    Oh fuck.
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    >>156105133
    Holy shit
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    >>156105133
    I never really imagined a world without Patrick Stewart. I'm scared for Ian now
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    >>156104673
    What the absolute fuck, 2 weeks!?
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    well how about that
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    >>156105765
    he recorded his lines for an American Dad episode to be aired after Doomsday so there you go.
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    >>156105765
    Well it makes sense now. Who will stop Jean from going insane now?!?
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    >>156106556
    Main MCU's Professor X (Christopher Abbott).
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    >>156107161
    Isn't he boring?
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    The more I think about "DODC is after Jean, so she has to bail", the more I frown because, while I understand why a bleeding out Peter might worry about that at the time, it doesn't really make sense in full because that had never stopped Jean before, and now it's even more aggravating because most of the staff there is also under investigation.
    >>156107181
    I don't even know, but he seemingly confirmed he won't participate in the Doom duology, so I wonder why Sink was cast by her lonesome for Secret Wars.
    >>
    i will drop the MCU like a sack of stale potatoes if Peter/Jean doesn't happen
    BND is the only movie i've enjoyed since infinity war which was 8 years ago, and Peter is the only current superhero i give a shit about

    but i wonder how many other people will drop it too
    there could be dozens of us, dozens
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    >>156107411
    Can we hope for a Tom Holland cameo?
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    >>156107411
    >"DODC is after Jean, so she has to bail"
    this was always total bullshit, Jean does NOT have to run
    she is a character that can scan the brains of everyone in her vicinity, and mind control them or freeze them or brainwash them in case she feels threatened
    as long as she's awake there is pretty much no way for non-superheroes to threaten her

    there is no ironclad in-universe justification for why Jean bails. she does it because she's not a Spiderman character and the writers of the movie were probably told not to endanger any plans Marvel has for her X-Men debut
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    >>156107411
    If you think about this specific thing long enough you will notice how many times the MCU fucked up a character dynamic in the name of fanservice
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    In a vacuum if I'd never seen BND, I would not actually be opposed to Cyclops x Jean. But doing it now after BND would be such a baffling move on Marvel's part.

    BND basically did the whole original foundation of Cyclops x Jean bonding together over their losses and becoming important to each other, except they put Spiderman in Cyclops' place and then dialed it up to 11 by making them save each other's lives in very intimate fashion (hold her in your arms as you take a bullet for her, then she keeps your heart beating by breathing in your stead.)

    If you're Marvel and you plan on making Cyclops x Jean happen, why the hell would you actually do all this ^ in BND? If you wanna make Cyclops x Jean convincing, surely you should let Cyclops save Jean's life and make her feel normal? Why let Spiderman do it first? It unironically comes off as self-sabotage.

    General audiences that watch these movies don't really care about comic accuracy. What they know is the MCU and movies like BND. And if Cyclops x Jean happens a large number of these people are gonna say "so they just replaced Peter with some guy? weird" and it's to come off clumsy, like there's zero long term planning.

    What I'm trying to say is, if Marvel wanted to go for Cyclops x Jean then they should've introduced both these characters together. But they introduced Jean and anchored her personal journey so strongly to Spiderman, so they should follow through and continue with that. If they try to pivot back to Cyclops x Jean now, it's just going to be so weird and inconsistent.
    >>
    You do know Jean will never be in any more of Peter's movies, right?
    You do know that Peter won't be in any of the X-Men movies, right?
    You do know that they'll have 2-3 lines with each other tops in the crossover event movies, right?
    You do know that Peter will get back with MJ, right?
    Spiderphoenix will never, ever be canon.
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    >>156108278
    that's the weirdest part, Jott and Spideychelle fans will use the "sibling coded" argument, but if Scott/Jean happens it will just be a reheated, lesser version of PeterJean, literally the same dynamic, but less intense and novel
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    >>156107506
    As long as she's awake, and she has to sleep!
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    >>156109163
    Peter's not gonna let her sleep
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    >>156109319
    Fuck, I'd love to have his twink ass
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    >>156108668
    >Jott and Spideychelle fans will use the "sibling coded" argument
    In all fairness, kissing your brother passionately is a Star Wars reference, and Peter is a big SW fan.
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    >>156063874
    How powerful will Jean be in the next movie?
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    >>156108278
    I'm not a Spiderphoenix shipper but I agree. Spiderphoenix has the core bullet points of Jott within it. You would have to change Scott's characterization to get past this
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    >>156107411
    >>156107506
    >>156107754
    DoDC aren't the only ones who would go after Jean now. And Peter, the only person in the world who cares for her, has already proven his willingness to die for her.
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    Pointless ship because we all know MCU Pete likes the dark meat. He doesn't want a woman who won't call him "Massa" when he hits it from the back.
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    >>156110903
    Jean going into his mind and replacing all his wants with her.
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    >>156111344
    hot
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    >>156105133
    RIP man. fuck. I just finished playing x-men legends recently and it was a pleasant surprise to see he was in it.
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    >inb4 Kit Conner wants his Cyclops to be in a gay relationship

    And we support it!
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    >>156112092
    Jean makes Cyclops gay to be with Spider-Man
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    does stan lee or someone at marvel have a red head fetish or something? Wolverine, Spiderman, they're always obsessed with strictly red headed girls
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    stan is literally me
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    >>156063874
    Truth nuke
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    >>156112092
    Cyclops will date Logan!
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    Cringe thread for secondaries
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    >>156063874
    How will they prevent Jean from one-shotting everyone with her mind control?
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    >>156115432
    Suddenly everyone will be immune as always
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    Do you think Sadie Sink got good acting range? Afaik she looks like she only portrays angry redhead characters so it wouldn't be any different from Z. Just redhead Zendaya
    Any work that shows her acting range?
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    >>156113085
    BLASPHEMY
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    >>156116650
    She was in The Whale
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    >>156116821
    Wasn't that also an angry redhead?
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    >>156116840
    I mean there's Unhinged, that Netflix videogame
    >>
    Peter Jean Bros...
    MCU wants Jean and Scott
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    >>156117551
    who gives a shit
    I know what I ship, I know what I want
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    >>156117551
    this was always known. people were in denial for a few months because BND misled them but nothing changed, not really
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    >>156117551
    How are you so sure?
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    >>156117551
    And? That won’t stop me from shipping them.
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    https://x.com/1wook_/status/2116199015184511023/photo/1?a=s2WafZR08bQZeNHFyBU&s=19
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    >>156118940
    Symbiote Peter x Jean when?
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    >>156119411
    Symbiote Peter x Phoenix Jean
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    >>156119605
    I forget, is Spectacular Spider-Man the only show that didn't make the symbiote a rage booster, I know it showed the "sleepwalking" aspect.
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    >>156119629
    >is Spectacular Spider-Man the only show that didn't make the symbiote a rage booster
    No it did it too.
    >>
    I know we had that bridal carry BTS photo and the "World is Grey" trailer but I just need one more official acknowledgement. Please Sony, maybe art of Spider-Man and Jean very close together.
    >>
    >>156119629
    I really enjoyed it, but Spectacular symbiote was also a rage booster.
    Such a good show, it deserved better
    >>
    >>156063874
    Since Peter has Hyper Sense in the comics and the MCU now (the thing where his eyes goes blank, he becomes a pseudo-speedster and gains a stat boost), how are Cyclops and Wolverine going to steal Marvel Girl from the guy who carries Marvel on his back?
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    >>156121012
    They won't!
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    >>156120376
    If they release the footage mentioned on picrel somewhere, I think we would be set as best as we could.
    >https://variety.com/2026/film/features/sadie-sink-jean-grey-interview-spider-man-brand-new-day-x-men-1236829644/
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    Scott can do so much better
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    >He doesn't care about Marvel anymore?
    >Release a good Spiderman movie, and create a good foundation for a genuinely compelling relationship between Spiderman and Jean Grey.
    >He's invested? Good.
    >Now never meaningfully follow up on this pairing again, and keep releasing mediocre movies.
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    >>156123144
    Worse, reset the universe just as its getting good under some stupid schedule instead of building on what worked
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    >>156123720
    Is anyone actually excited for the Avengers film?
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    >>156124579
    They're so perfect together
    >>156124415
    I don't know anyone who is
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    >>156117551
    I know, which is why I am using AI to deliver your fix in animated form.
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    >it has been three (3) months since Brand New Day released
    >this ship is STILL going

    Damn, and my ass really thought this would only be around for two weeks.
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    >>156064456
    God damn Jean, he's going to suffocate
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    https://youtu.be/UZ4an60Zmvc?
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    >>156126673
    Its the power of the spiderphoenix.
    Now I only wish we got more material
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    >>156128118
    kek really nice edit, anon!
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    >>156128118
    Jean is so cute wearing Peter's uniform
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    >>156121012
    >how are Cyclops and Wolverine going to steal Marvel Girl from the guy who carries Marvel on his back?
    Will they even need to do that? I've been increasingly afraid as to what Secret Wars might entail for their connection, since it's supposed to be a clean slate from the past stuff.
    >>156124415
    I'm only curious about Secret Wars, since Jean was confirmed to play a role there since last November.
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    >>156129896
    Will it be any good?
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    Giving how the whole point of BND is moving on and starting fresh, him ending up with Jean makes sense. Discard the fact that she's an X-Men character in the MCU and look at it from just this movie alone.
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    >>156130637
    Considering the MCU has been a lot of "throwing stuff on the wall to see what sticks" since Majors dropped the ball (which, funny enough, is what led to a X-Man being in a Spider-Man movie), I'm on the fence about it.
    Not particularly optimistic, but not hopeless.
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    >>156063874
    I find it interesting that MCU Jean Grey is so popular. Yeah she has red hair - but her outfit is meh and her appearance is fairly unassuming. Shes pretty - but never described as a drop dead super model.

    Yet, she exploded in popularity, while MJ - a literla super model - neither inspires yhe passion of art Jean Grey fans did, or got the emotional attachment of people into Spider-Phoenix

    Theres a lot to learn from this. For one, that audiences dont really care if a character is the most attractive as long as the bond is good. Two - that MJs appearance doesnt matter when shes been written as shit for the last two decades. And theee - take a look at all the Spider-Phoenix art. Its Pete and Jean in cute domestic situations. People YEARN for actually cute, mutually supportive, emotionally loyal couples

    Spider-Phoenix will always exist as this idealized relationship because it never got subjected to Marvel Editorials 20 year terror campaign on Mary Jane. But of theres any single lesson to be learned - it doesnt matter if MJ is the hottest, if shes a superhero, or if she has the best outfits- she needs to not be a whore, not have relationship drama, and if she has drama, it should be actually interesting narrative conflict, not wishy washy Paul bullshit and cuck porn projected by the divorced gwen fags in charge of marvel comics
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    >>156132439
    >she needs to not be a whore, not have relationship drama
    Then it's not MJ.
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    >>156132978
    The difference is, Mary Jane was a free spirited woman who wanted Peter, and Harry was the cuck who was struggling with his relationship to Peter. This is different to nowadays, where Peter is the seething cuck and MJ lost all her personality
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    >>156130945
    >Giving how the whole point of BND is moving on and starting fresh
    Eh. That's what the movie SHOULD be about, and that's advertising and name make you think. That's also what the writers apparently what you to think.

    But BND is not really about moving on and starting something fresh. If it was, Peter would accept the memory wipe and leave MJ and Ned behind. His mutation would actually change him instead of being a mere powerup. He'd be hanging off that rooftop with Jean, not sitting alone thinking of MJ. The next movie is positioned to play out pretty much the same way as the movies of the Home trilogy. "Brand New Day" more like Back To Yesterday.
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    I love how Fanon Jean is more of an Adult or a Misty while canon Jean is a cold hearted dominant bitch
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    >>156133961
    *Asuka or a Misty. Autocorrect fucked me
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    >>156133961
    >>156133982
    The problem is we don't know how much of that is down to Jean being on a mission to save or avenge her sister. Maybe she's more mellow when there's no goal to violently pursue. She definitely seems a lot more mellow once Peter calms her down (and when he gets shot)
    >>
    uh oh
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    >>156129896
    I feel like Peter and Jean would be the very few who remember their past lives if Secret Wars does provide a VERY clean slate. Wouldn't make sense to fully erase their memories since the next Spider-Man trilogy just started and Jean only recently debuted. If anything this connection should grow since they remember each other and what happened while ending up in this new world.

    Well, ideally anyways.
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    >>156132439
    Honestly I think she was chosen like that so its easy for the foids to cosplay. Like nu!Harley whose design I hate but roasties seem to prefer over the original Harlequin costume
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    >>156135770
    Yeah, for me, Jean remembering is a no-brainer, since it's through Peter that she learns to expand her cycle of trust.
    It's Peter side that I'm worried about, as they have to find a way to make it believable that they wouldn't try contacting each other after reuniting in Secret Wars, and having him go through his own version of NWH would be a way to do it.
    >>156133961
    >a cold hearted dominant bitch
    Though, that's only Jean through most of the movie. Post-May Jean is clearly emotional enough to finally let her guard down and allow herself to cry over her loneliness.
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    >>156133725
    I hope not, I am sick of Zendaya
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    Been seeing more of the theory that the reason Jean can't possess Peter is because she can't possess bugs
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    >>156137448
    Its more elemental, like that spiderweb of destiny shit
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    i thought the reason he couldn't possess him was because he had super powers and that give him more resistance than a regular person

    she couldn't possess hulk once he got angry either
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    >>156138562
    Yes but Peters super powers are based on spiders. The hulk did force her out but he was only able to keep her out when she chose to stop penetrating
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    >>156138562
    >>156138957
    What did you think of Banner so far?
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    >>156139368
    I think the movie is a little unclear there. He was able to eject her, but she was also able to keep trying. We never see her try to possess Savage Hulk. It's safe to assume she would get ejected again.
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    >>156092027
    you'll never know unless you try
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    >>156098319
    Not even close thank goodness
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    >>156098319
    Felicity started out sweet and then became bitchy after getting together with Oliver. Jean started out an ice cold demon of nightmares and we'll wait and see what she is now
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