How do you feel about broken and damaged women in fictional media?
>>156058117Same way I feel about girlfailures. I love how imperfect the three Knights of Guinevere leads are; makes 'em that much more endearing to me
>>156058117The shows should be more realistic and have them sleep around to relieve stress
>>156058117I cannot fucking wait for my victorian invalid wife to be bedbound by the robot consumption disease. I hope her doctor boyfriend stuffs her in a cryotube so she can be a beautiful sexy dead snow white in her glass coffin.
>>156059599She doesn’t have to. She can just wait for the blue lung to do it for her.
>>156059643We just had a bottom bitch gay male character do that, and it did not go over well.
>>156058117Andi is cute! CUTE!
>>156058117They have a certain appeal.
>even the rich girl is mentally and emotionally damaged to point of being brokenDana certainly prefers writing a type of character that I like to see in media, but every single protagonist and the main antagonist being some variation of "damaged goods girl" it gets a bit silly. Frankie and Olivia even almost have the same problem. Both have abusive dads that want to mold them into a perfect heir. Andi was peer pressured into doing drugs and covering for a workplace accident. It would be nice to have one direct foil. Someone who isn't riddled with trauma or conditioned to accept abuse. You could argue Andi but it's strongly implied she was socially abused by her coworkers.
>>156061016She gave that mentally well adjusted character to this dude I think. It was getting to be a taco party anyway, so I prefer Isaiah to be the grounded one instead of making a whole other woman just for that.Unless the allegations about him are true.
>>156061250>mentally well a adjusted guy>cuts out organs from people murdered by his boss for preservation and later saleIt would be interesting if we had an adult newcomer stranded on the surface beneath the theme park. They slowly lose all the good feelings Park Planet gave them in childhood and turn to violence the same way Gwen does the moment she associates someone as a wolf like Orville Park. Every single character right now has such a rich history growing up alongside all the terrible ways of life across the colony, so a person with a fresh, untarnished perspective would make an interesting foil.
>>156061689M-7's city layout is interesting. The city wall looks defensive. I wonder whether there were some ugly wars in the past, and does the city suffer raiders sometimes with the smaller, shittier defensive wall in front.
>>156061689Like a park guest? Yeah, that could be neat. I’d expect them to be a bimbo fish out of water type, then slowly learn the dystopian truth under the surface of their disney adult comfort vacation spot. I don’t think there is enough room for that sideplot in Gwen and her knights’ story, though. That sorta character would have to be a conflict of the week before being tragically offed like Armend.
>>156061795Since it’s a Company Town, I’d expect the wall to be more to keep the populace in, rather than anyone out.
>>156061952I hear what you're saying, but there doesn't seem to be anywhere nearby to run to. If someone wanted to hop the wall and decide to OD in the wasteland, it looks like he can.
>>156059793>maleSpotted the problem
>>156062093Fine, here’s a recent female that did it. It was still not enough to convince people to watch her show.
>>156062120Lol damn, this show was forgotten in RECORD TIME
>>156058166LuzIA Noceda
>>156062120Who?
>>156062120>>156063183I liked it.
>>156061908>That sorta character would have to be a conflict of the week before being tragically offed like Armend.I'm saying that type of character would be on the same side as the main trio. Gwen is murderous but only towards someone she hallucinates as Orville Park. A newcomer who has their ideals shattered by the brutality and overall immoral nature of Park Planet at every level would want to tear it all down which would pull the main trio into a sort of revolution with Gwen ironically as the figurehead leader.
>>156063363Dang.
>>156063609You can have a sympathetic character be the conflict of the week and still not enter the main cast. >has their ideals shatteredAnd Andi and Frankie already have this sufficiently covered. They liked Princess Guinevere and the crane game when they were kids. They still do.
>>156063800>Andi and Frankie already have this sufficiently covered>Frankie is a criminal enforcer who supports her abusive father figure that pulled her teeth when she was younger to punish her>also Frankie knows Sparky kills and tortures people>Andi has worked for years on behalf of a corrupt system she is fully aware pollutes the atmosphere and grinds people like her to dust to keep the place running>bullied into doing drugs by her coworkersWhat ideals could those two protagonists have less to shatter?
>>156058117I can fix them.>which o-All of them.
>>156063977*left to shatter
>>156063183Goddamn...Why is that gorgeous piece of ass so FWB shaped?
>>156063994>all of themSelfish. Pick one and marry her so if she starts to relapse you can fix her again.I don't want to fix her. I only want to serve her and be in her presence
>>156060719I always liked Lapis. She’s cute and had a rough break
>>156064051>SpoilerMe but with Lapis
>>156058117No returns policy
Ugh
>>156065101>needing to give her tits and assPrefering off model fan art is always a mark insincerity to me. Post her true form if you really love her.
>>156065242Alright don’t get your panties in a twist. Besides I think irl she would have that sorta body, just a little skinnier with the (better looking) messy hair
>>156065352I must protect her smile btw. I must I say!
>>156058117tired of indians in my goyslop cartoons maybe should make one about nissian Z or one of you fags getting droned
>>156064051>Pick o-I refuse.
>>156059599Maybe get sex? Huh?!
>>156065467Buddy I’m tryin’!
>>156065463You absolute whore. Being emotionally intimate with more than one damaged woman will only make things worse.
>>156065715A doctor can have more than one patient without negatively affecting the quality of his work.
>>156065391She’s Latina.
>>156065821erm chud she’s actually this brown and not that brown. NISSIAN Z RISE UP shes literal drone bait as are the rest of you. I will enjoy watching you get gibbed
>>156059643Andi is having a stress induced breakdown and is drinking. She calls her "bro" to hangout. He gets to her house and sees her there half dressed on the verge of tears and juuuuust passed drunk, she opens her mouth to say something but is met with a deep kiss on her mouth. She jumps up and he lifts her up and they start making out at the door way. Gwen and Frankie are sitting on the couch staring for a minute as the two "friends" make their way to her soon to be destroyed bedroom. For the rest of the ep you can hear them having loud sex on and off while frankie and gwen have some kind of adventure.
>>156058119This show could've been good. I watched Episode 2 and skipped most of it. It's nothing but anime tropes through the eyes of rich Californian kids who've only known struggle and misery from media, and also never interacted with a black person but insist that everyone must be a shade of brown cuz muh diversity and Americans have this weird fetish with black people. Men are all assholes unless they're brown, and women are all "sassy" and devoid of any tenderness which only makes them fucking insufferable and nothing else. No amount of cute schizo fembot can make up for this amount of sewage God FUCKING damn it. I can't believe they take shit I would love and manage to make it impossible to stomach. Fucking American trash
>>156065789You are not a Comfort Dispenser Machine. You are a human and comforting others gives you a rush of dopamine. You are not being kind, you are pretending to be impartial while feeding off these girls being emotionally connected to you.
>>156067962>Princess Guinevere isn’t good enough to make up for the less likable parts of the showYou’re wrong. But don’t worry, she’ll forgive you.
>>156058117Remember when Star Vs. was about a cuckquean suffering that her crush was into another girlThat was some excellent shit until they ruined it
>>156063977I want to see flashbacks about their backstories so we can watch them get to this point.
I dont think you all understand how SEX Andrea is.
>>156069170>>156058117Take them in as you would a stray kitten, then keep them safe in a locked basement.
>>156069136her design is ugly. all the character designs are hideous except for>>156068738and>>156064051I really hate these modern attitudes to art. what's the point of the general art style looking nice if your just gonna make every character ugly.
>>156058117>How do you feel about broken and damaged women in fictional media?I want to take advantage of them and be grievously harmed in the process.
>>156063609>Gwen is murderous but only towards someone she hallucinates as Orville ParkConsidering she used to be his wife, yeah
>>156067962>I watched Episode 2 and skipped most of it.What a fucking retard
Long story short: it's complicated.Short story long: unfortunately my tiny millenial pea brain could never process them, not even during the days of Daria or Jean Grey. The closest I could do was either women who were yet to be broken in the show, revealed to be broken behind their complicated façade, or were clearly evil because they were broken and damaged from the start (like Azula or even Malificent).Though I did have a phase where I enjoyed fanfiction that revealed how the tough kind were broken all along, like either Lee Kanker or Vanessa from PaF.But other than that they were too much of a mixed bag then and I doubt they're my cup of tea now..
>>156058117I want to SMOOCH Andi on her pretty plump lips!!!
>>156068738punished gwen is unironically hotter to me and that's still not enough to make me like the show.>>156069418Episode 1 was barely tolerable but 2 was just garbage. It's like these shows are written by aliens who got their idea of humanity from chatgpt. These cali babbies are so fucking out of touch it's unreal
>>156058117Rape victims are my favorite character archetype
>>156069353I have the funny feeling that if Andi and Frankie were genderflipped, you wouldn’t be complaining about their designs at all.
>>156071443They'd still be two insufferable cunts.
>>156069459How would a scene go where Andi and zombie Guinevere kiss? I want to draw it. It should be awkward and weird but give me a setup.
>>156059793According to whom?
She's very hot here
>>156071868If you missed the dirty bird shitfit, I envy you.
>>156071877delicious brown flattie mmmm
>>156058117They should stop being highly satanic lesbialas and embrace Jesus
>>156058154are those twirly hairs on their nose
>>156069353>uglySo...you want a Barbie cartoon where every chick is "pretty" with little to no variation? Why not post a broken girl character you consider pretty? Afraid of revealing your banal taste?
>>156072377>So...you want a Barbie cartoon where every chick is "pretty" with little to no variation?That in itself would be variation in this desolate landscape of ugliness.
>>156072377NTA but the point isn't barbie pretty but making things with a tiny bit of appealthese people know how to do it, they just decide to make characters deliberately ugly and bitchy and brown because they think it's a win against the haters and because they're playing with daddy's money anyway so they can reaffirm to themselves that they can do whatever the fuck they want. this ugliness is the product of narcissists jerking each other off because anyone with the guts to tell them their character sucks shit you get cancelled for being a bigot and never work in the industry again.
>>156072500>tiny bit of appealKoG is about the chasing the dream that is reaching "mass appeal" destroying people's sense of self worth. If every character being in a shit siutation still looked "appealing" it would soften the blow regarding how they're treated in the society depicted in the show. If Frankie was more "aesthetically appealing" why would she think being loyal to Sparky and doing his dirty work is the only way she can be accepted and survive? Why would Andi need to put up with bullshit at her work if she was able to charm coworkers with how "appealing" she looks. Some of us are tired of a "loser character" looking handsome or gorgeous yet other characters inexplicably treat them like trash. The visuals need to match the context.
>>156072638It's not that deep tumblranon. It's just bad because spoiled children go muh style and have an allergy to criticism.
>>156068359Look at dr Midwit with his phd from "I read it on Facebook" university.
>>156072680No one cares about your "muh anime tropes, muh women characters aren't appealing nor nice in every scene" criticism. The dialogue and visuals tell so much you refuse to acknowledge because you want to rag in the creator before even thinking about the story.
>>156073260>posts guinevere instead of any of the generic uggo sassy brownoids with a shit personality populating the showI rest my case lol
>white = bad>cis = bad>pretty = bad>brown = good>queer = good>ugly = goodYASSSSS MAH DEPTH WOW MUCH SUBVERSION QUALITY WRITING
>>156058117I like, but I always have this feeling that I'm being manipulated into feeling sorry for them.How much svffering is too much that it becomes bait?
>>156073440Oh, is this what you want big boy,
>>156071877>She's very hot here Yes, you can tell by all the beads of sweat
>>156071877>nnnnghahhh... ahhh, ah-mmmnnhaahh... oohh, ahh... ah! aaaahhh...mmmm...was it really necessary to have her moan for 27 whole minutes in Episode 2? was was glitch even thinking?
>>156074206>discussion about confirmed born as women characters not being conventionally attractive alongside ones that are attractive all working in context of the story>REEE NIGGERS AND TRANNIES RAHHHHNice strawman. I guess you like arguing with the trannies in your head.
Does someone know what these things on her cheeks are meant to be? It looks like something that's stuck in the flesh and pulls to create those dimples. But I have no idea. Did anyone ever explain it?
>>156075781Think of it like a dimple piercing through her cheeks and the wire is connected towards the back of her head or around the back of her ****ears****. No matter how she feels, it looks like she has a perpetual smile or grin.
>>156076146cute. mwah!
>>156072680It is that deep you disengenuous retard.
>>156076410it really isn't that deep you stupid fucking retard
>>156076436A well thought out response to your 70IQ jeet spam, that shows what the artist put into the cartoon and how it works is in fact, depth.
>>156076553>A well thought out response to your 70IQ jeet spammaybe you're just a faggot or a contrarian bot? point being you're not worth arguing with and thanks for wasting your time bumping threads for things you hate ;3
>>156076598she's so cute. mwah!I need to draw her kissing with Andi
would gwen kiss andi or would andi kiss gwen, though?I think andi would kiss her. like in the spur of the moment after calming her down from a ptsd episode
>>156076698
Andi makes my heart all warm inside anytime I see her~
>>156076707
>>156076731Fffuck I'm literally working on a drawing like this, if I were any faster I could've gotten it out before Dana
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>>156062120>>156063183I still think this could've been a decent show but at most it was like a 5 to 6.5 out of 10. They really flanderized their characters in a single season, which is almost somewhat impressive.
>>156058117The more broken the better
>>156077589Frankie does all the bruising in the relationship.
>>156076795I love her I love her I love her!
>>156078528>
>>156058117>>156069136>>156069954>>156071877>>156076728So, I'm not the only one who thought Andi is fuckable with her hair down.
>>156071220>This didn't have what *I* like!
>>156072680No retard it's exactly that deep, stop thinking that phrase is a bandaid on your shit takes
>>156073662>Meme kneejerk answer = worth shit
>>156073935>I'm being manipulated into feeling sorry for them.Yes anonIt's called "identifying with a character"They explained this in autism school, were you sick that day
everyone wanted to be someone's prince or princessreality often turns you into someone's hunter or witch
>>156079766Her fuckability goes up even further
>>156069353>her design is uglyur face is ugly senpai
>>156080376I fluctuated between wanting to be the fool and wanting to be the black knight who conquers the kingdom as thoroughly as I conquer the princess and or queen's garden. I'm a complicated dumbass.
>>156079766>So, I'm not the only one who thought Andi is fuckable-- No, you're not! I agree that she's VERY fuckable indeed!
>>156058117Women are meant to be broken. Don't get mad, instead educate me, maybe you can tell me what is a woman?
>>156083522>what is a woman?This aint liberal arts anon.
>>156079951NTA but you're retarded
>>156058117Nobody ever cares about broken men.
>>156084004Plenty of broken men get love in fiction because of actual abuse. The reality is just because YOU get no love for being broken does not mean no one else should.
>>156084068>schizo programming cannot compute previous postbeep-boop to you to bot-kun
>>156083470I love all these expressions by her, especially when she sticks her tongue out.
>>156058117If only brown women were real...
>>156058117Almost always best girl.
>>156072638she doesn't have to look amazing. just not be an ugly fat bulldike.
>>156085550>one >ONE character isn't pretty and uses her muscle fat body to defend a princess and her cute friend>wahhhh why can't all the females in this show not be ugly!Would you rather a pretty woman defend her friends and get stabbed, beaten, and broken for it?
>>156086896Anon, you're talking to a shitposter who is desperately trying to convince people that Frankie is ugly. Meanwhile, everyone with sense and taste has been thirsting after her since the first trailer.
>>156086930if you had any taste you wouldn't have saved that drawing
Based Dana Terrace is SAVING ANIMATION
>>156087712Animation needed saving?
>>156058117>KoG Lol no one cares about this shit series.
>>156087712based Dana is hot
>>156090868Dana honestly seems like a pretty cool person.
https://www.instagram.com/stories/danaterrace/4018108266420871077/
>>156090983Just fuck my shit up haircut
>>156090868God i would wear her like a hockey mask and use her like a far too snug and too wet onahole. Then make her breakfast in bed while she's sleeping off the marathon bed breaking fuck session.
>>156090868Would
>>156075696>was it really necessary to have her moan for 27 whole minutes in Episode 2?yes
>>156069136A delicious brown
>>156094600going to be wild when it is revealed Olivia controls Gwen when going into psyco-killer-mode
>>156089166Apparently you do if you came to complain
>>156073440>>156073662what a miserable life you're having lol
>>156097535Holt tits batman
>>156097686she is so fucking tall
>>156089006She could so easily suffocate someone with that chest
>>156090868>bathroom_stall.jpg
>>156075781
>>156098295Gwen is cute! CUTE!
>>156099056cute frog
>>156099206I want this cute creature to protect and love me
>>156098295The cheek pull is hard to draw right. Sometimes they break it in the show as well.
>>156076728piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiits
>>156058117So, are those moles, freckles, or pimples?
>>156102869they look like moles
>>156101615Consider Adult Olivia's dress. I think someone working on character designs must think lady pits are sexy.
>>156099206One can only wonder what thoughts are running through her head
>>156104609>I'm a princess!
>>156105003sure you are Gwen...
>>156058117I'm fine with flawed, imperfect women in line with conventional storytelling and character development, but I draw the line with broken, crashout girlfailures that seem more like therapy sessions like Fionna here. If I was that desperate to see people that broken, then why would I watch a cartoon for that sort of thing?
>>156102869moleskissable moles
>>156102869It's safe to assume those are moles/beauty marks. Pimples make more sense in shows with teens or gross out humor than in KOG given that show's tone. Also, if Andi had freckles, then she would have been drawn with a small cluster of them on each cheek of her face. That's been the case for most 2D animated characters I've seen with freckles.
>>156058117Damaging women is sexist
>>156106350The irony/hypocrisy of wanting more realistic women, then crying foul when they're depicted as damaged.
>>156106333lolI hate this!
>>156106350They tend to come pre-distressed tho.
My beautiful wife
>>156107496look at how they massacred my girl
>Tell me I'm pretty!
>>156107561>implying I wouldn't smooch
>>156107561I'm already picturing her saying this rapid-fire, possibly with or without a megaphone.
Gwen is very cute
>>156087712And don't forget her patreon members.
>>156107496Nice to see Yzma again after 26 years. Hasn't aged a single day.
>>156097840Special guest star Aika
>>156106350Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>156106338I swear these unnecessary details are only there to vexate the animators
>>156098295The first sensible thing to do is take a pair of wire cutters and snap that shit off. That's what I'd do at least.
>>156108005This looks like Dana when she is normal and when she goes out/used to go out more femme.
Frankie is fat.
>>156116217Yes.But now I’m trying to picture skinny Frankie, and I don’t think she even has the bone structure to be thin. She’s maybe always gonna be kinda think even if she wastes away and loses the extra pounds.
>>156103623>no one ever kissed those lovely pits before she turned 100-years-oldEverything about Olivia makes me sad.
>>156116871Oh but her girlhood was used thoroughly.
>>156117484No one believes that rumor. Park Family gossip is always so banal and crude without any concrete evidence.
>>156103623Well, Titan bless whomever that character designer is.
>>156089006>>156089013Gwen's big robo milkers
>>156089013>>156119699>Guinevere's sexy body is purely artificial and designed to manipulate you into spending money>Olivia is standing right there with her perfectly lithe body and prime virgin pussyThe choice is obvious.
Not KOG but left looks like a tall Frankie
>>156121979
>>156058117I want to save them and nurture them. With my penis.
They look like they're going to bully you
>>156067962You're overreacting faggot.
>>156069136Her hair length is fine, this is lame.
>>156069353She genuinely isn't ugly, you're retarded.
>>156122852sauce?
Glitch posting something for tomorrow. Wonder what else it could be other than another merch drop
>>156124737lol
>>156114187had no idea dressing butch keeps creepers away because it is the opposite for meit is like trying to look cool to impress that one boy you likedat least that is how always felt about it
>>156058117>How do you feel about broken and damaged women in fictional media?they're fine. But writers need to stop making them fixable. It fucks up kids. Instead, the broken and damaged women should be shown as either unwilling or unable to fix their lives. Perhaps even actively causing their own problems. being able to fix problems that involve other people with love and kindess is one of the worst things cartoons attempt to teach kids and usually leads to heart ache in their teens and 20s
>>156125318>being able to fix problems that involve other people with love and kindess is one of the worst things cartoons attempt to teach kidsuh, not even the slightest bit factual as empathy is better than not giving at allif anything you should not even attempt to allow abuse in general to happencrimes need to be accounted for by society and it's levers on humanity
>>156125340>uh, not even the slightest bit factual as empathy is better than not giving at all>if anything you should not even attempt to allow abuse in general to happen>crimes need to be accounted for by society and it's levers on humanitythere is nothing wrong with empathy. But people need to know that you're not going to fix a friend or lover by loving them. You're not going to fix other people by loving them.
>>156125354>You're not going to fix other people by loving them.I mean you can, but just say it's woke to love someone because you think you can fix them. You love someone because you care that they were hurt in such a way that damaged them to that point. Some people will just say lost cause, and continue with life. That is how people who say "I can fix them" are. To trying prove to do something so kind no one else will dare attempt.
>>156109147>>156097826>AI videos go BRRRRR
>>156125618
>>156124737Frankie The Fatass
>>156126408>Frankie The Princessftfy
>>156126621
>>156125266I feel the same way. I think Dana only dresses more feminine for professional events, at least from what I've seen of her.
>>156127089What you give the consumers is a product
>>156123357https://x.com/drawer_mirage
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>>156125819Well, she shouldn't be so fucking adorable. There I said it.
>>156107561>Tell her she's pretty.>Get one of her 'special' hugs.
>>156126408nah she's strong fat