The Winter 2004 issue of Nick Mag Presents had a comic written by Frank Pittarese and illustrated by Sam Hiti based on the 2004 adaptation of A Series of Unfortunate EventsFigured this should be a good time to storytime it
Bump if you're reading
And that's the end of A Series Of Unfortunate Events as Told by Count Olaf StorytimeConfession: I've never read the books, watched the film, or seen the Netflix series but I really like Sam Hiti/Kickliy's art and I figured this would be appropriate to do in October
Reminds me of Wind Waker
I love the style of the end credits animationshttps://youtu.be/SVV0ONSiQoA
>>155956607Damn, Jim Carrey used to be EVERYWHERE...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UasYUdGQhs
>>155957486>>155957321I read the “All the Wrong Questions” books as a kid, but never the “Series of Unfortunate Events”. I always felt like I was missing the punchline to a big inside joke.
>>155957321The books are cool. The movie looks nice and gets the general tone down but gets so much basic shit wrong and tries to cram like four or five stories into a single movie and Jim Carrey just does his usual shtick. The show gets (most of) the details right but it looks like shit and goes for way more of a whimsical twee sort of thing I'm not a fan of.
If A Series of Unfortunate Events got a proper graphic novel series would you cool if it looked like this or is there an artist/artstyle you'd prefer?
>>155961392The book art is right there, not even a question really.
>>155961222The movie combined the first three films into a single amalgamation and also included some setup to things that did not exist in the books at all when the film came out (mysterious organization setting fires that the parents were a part of).The film nails the tone and I don't think it got that many things wrong other than the dialing back of the narration. A lot of the humor in the series requires the written medium.The show is a more faithful narrative adaptation but NPH is too much of a clown and the set design and overall tone is not nearly as good as the film. Both adaptations are solid and made with a lot of care (I assume Handler/Snicket worked closely with both).
>>155956607Interesting read. It's pretty much a straightforward retelling of the film which is disappointing. I was hoping this would be more like "The True Story of the Three Little Pigs" where Olaf is actively narrating throughout the whole thing and we actually see events as he claims they happened ie: he's much more handsome and the Baudelaire's are ugly and mean and Sunny actually is a monkey. When Klaus trips he actually trips rather than Olaf hitting him, Olaf asks for Roast Beef and the Orphans actively mock him and serve disgusting pasta. Basically I want a strawman comic with Olaf as the sensible author insert and the Baudelaire's as the loud and incredibly silly opponent.
>>155961649Wait how would he try to justify child marriage?What would that even look like in his retelling?
>>155961623I don't know, I feel like they really bungled Klaus in the movie and while Carrey is generally a better actor and actually felt more sinister than NPH his Oalf wasn't very accurate either since it was mostly Jim Carrey ad-libbing with his usual Jim Carrey-isms. My main problem with the show is that it mostly forgot the dark part of the whole dark humor thing and also the whole setting felt way too modern in a bad way while the books and movie were much more antiquated by comparison.
>>155961693I felt that Klaus was 'okay' but the actor was too handsome and looked very different than the illustrations. I think that his character might have suffered the most from lacking the internal monologue/omniscient narrator describing his thoughts but that is more the fault of the lack of narration/the medium of film.I thought Carrey's Olaf was accurate enough. The ad-libs don't matter given that the script is already a pretty big deviation from the books. Characterwise I think Carrey did a very good job portraying the Olaf from books 1-5 where he's a goofy Lazytown villain in his various disguises. He is still a little menacing but once you hit Vile Village/Hostile Hospital Olaf gets a lot more sinister and there are fewer goofy disguise characters.I do really enjoy the timlessness of the setting. It feels more like a dark fairytale or a nightmare where the setting is intentionally anachronistic (kind of like B:TAS Gotham mixing computers and video games with tommy guns and fedoras). The movie and books definitely did a great job with that compared to the show.I will say that Patrick Warburton is fantastic in general and he did a great job as Lemony Snicket. Better than Jude Law (who also did well).
>>155961684Violet would be an egocentric primadonna and insist that she gets the starring role (without an audition and sidestepping the normal process). The fact that it is an actual binding marriage would be played off as a complete accident/coincidence that Olaf could not possibly have known and then those rotten orphans would accuse him of some kind of horrible 'scheme' when all he wanted to do was have a wonderful play about a marvelous [fictional] marriage.
>>155961460I was gonna make a devil's advocate post and point out plenty of comic adaptations of novels don't use the novel's artstyle because book illustrators don't necessarily work well for deadlines associated for comics but then I remembered the artist is still alive and isn't alien to comics (albeit his one credit is a short story in an anthology)
>>155961895The feasibility isn't what is being discussed here, just what you would like to see.I think the actual devil's advocate stance would be that Helquist's style may not work well 'in motion'. He has a great style for portraits and does a decent job with landscapes/scenery but I haven't seen anything from him that would work as a storyboard (which is how I envision a comic). Mundane conversational scenes (the type of thing that would be shot--reverse shot in a movie) and highly choreographed action scenes both seem like a poor fit for his style.
I really don't like that Klaus is taller than Violet.This isn't even a simple mistake, Violet is at least 3 years older than Klaus, it's the fundamental point of why marrying her was questionable instead of out right illegal.
>>155962136Again, it's based on the film's depiction first and foremost because that's what the comic was trying to promote to begin with
FUCK THIS GAY EARTHI WANT MY PONY PARTY BOOK AND MY LITTLEST ELF MOVIE AND I WANT THEM NOW
In case anyone shows up wondering if a page was skipped due to numbering jumping a number, it's because the page had an adBy the way, here's the full magazine in case anyone's curioushttps://archive.org/details/NickMagRawScans/NickMag%20Presents%20A%20Series%20Of%20Unfortunate%20Events%20-%20Holiday%202004/mode/2up
I didn't find the art style arousing so I didn't read it
So why did the movie underperform anyways?This series was used all the time for book reports growing up
>>155961969>Mundane conversational scenes (the type of thing that would be shot--reverse shot in a movie) and highly choreographed action scenes both seem like a poor fit for his style.Ehhh his art reminds me of certain euro comic artists and I'd say they do a good job
>>155963218wasn't it outrageously expensive to make or something
I really regret not getting into this book series when I was younger cause looking at it now it does seem really cool and something I would have enjoyed. But instead I picked up the books and read the "do not read this story" disclaimer at the start and my autistic ass took that literally and put it down.
>>155963218It was among the many middling adolescent book adaptions at the time trying to chase Harry Potter numbers and being axed when that didn't happen.
The ending credits sequence for the movie went extremely hard for some reasonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVV0ONSiQoA
>>155965493My favorite “Harry Potter chaser” of the time was The 39 Clues.11 year old me thought:>magic and witches and wizardsMeh. Sounds girly.>spys, gadgets, and international conspiracyHeck yeah!
>>155965586>The 39 CluesKinda lazy title.
>>155965586Spy stuff was everywhere in the 2000sThere's one Anon who desperately wanted to talk about some tie-in novel series for the Spy Gear toyline
>>155964079>But instead I picked up the books and read the "do not read this story" disclaimer at the start and my autistic ass took that literally and put it down.Did you ever finish pic related?
>>155962222t. cakesniffer
>>155961649>>155961823My thoughts exactly. I liked the Hiti's art, but it feels like a very by-the-numbers retelling of the movie's events, just in a different medium and cutting a fair bit of details and dialogue (which the movie and show already do with the books anyway) in exchange for a bit of snarky narration from Olaf. I was really expecting something nearly exactly what you described, something much more substantial and unique. I sorta get the impression the author of this comic just saw the movie in preparation for this, and wasn't a fan of the series or had read the books beforehand, and it shows.
Hiti's an underrated artistGlad he recovered after his depression and accident caused him to quit comics for a couple of years
>>155961468He got the DSLs right
>>155965586Tangentially related but in Junior High I read The Secrets of the Immortal Nicholas Flamel series for my mandatory school reading Found out there was a graphic novel adaptationThese characters looked cooler in my head
>>155970828AnonStop
So was Count Olaf an actual pedophile?
>>155961802>Patrick WarburtonOkay, now I kind of want to watch it just for him
>>155961468>>155970828It really is fucking weird how the artist really decided to give the cartoon version of her such big fucking lips to the point that its distracting. Like is this consistent with rest of this artists work? Or did the artist just spent one too many minutes looking at promotional pics of the actress and just couldnt help themselves? Like looking back at the pics posted you could tell that the artist must have realized it was weird and he dropped the big lips as the comic reached its conclusion.Like even if the artists intent was to differentiate between boy features and girl features he still could have toned it down a notch like this edit I made
>>155974055Look at his art, he does tended to give females more pronounced lips but even in the comic it seems he dropped it from Violet fairly early onhttps://www.comicartfans.com/comic-artists/sam_hiti.asp
>>155972660No. It's pretty clear he genuinely despises children. He didn't bother even trying to put in an excuse to kiss the bride, he just wanted her violet dead once the ink was dried
>>155965586>39 CluesYou know that got a graphic novel series right?
>>1559566072004 was an acid triphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ErlhM1NaZA
>>155976079Take me back
From the magazine itselfThat's a fucking terrible fishbowl
>>155973838He's kino
>>155976079Especially with the commentary track being Lemony Snickett pretending to be kidnapped and tortured the whole time. https://youtu.be/PhqSv81CPKs
>>155977800What makes it so bad? I'm unfamiliar with the needs of pet fishes
>>155981930It's mostly the size that's the problemThere's very little room and the big pink castle doesn't help
>>155979721I'm not well versed in finding any film audio other than the main one. Is there a place I can find commentary tracks/alternate audio tracks in the same way there is for subtitles? Alternatively, do any releasers include things like commentary tracks? TPB actually had one but it was just the director without Snicket and was a lot more serious.
>>155973838I was surprised just how well he played the part. Gives the character a real Rod Serling quality that really works, and he's more somber than than I've ever seen him.
>>155986858Yeah Warburton is a great actor that is criminally underused.I think the 2004 film does most things better than the show but Warburton was definitely the best part of the show. Shame about the retarded plot with the Quagmire parents. I like Will Arnett a lot too but I think by this point he was kind of phoning in his career.
>>155974055To be fair, the actress in the movie does got some big lips. The actress in the Netflix show has big lips too.I don’t know if that’s how she’s described in the books or what
>>155986913I always loved the film and it nailed the tone and atmosphere better for sure. The show struck me as a better adaptation since it actually did everything and fixed the lame ending, but I do wish they brought Jim Carrey back.
>>155956607I never read the books but my brother did and he seemed to like the movie though he knew that was an unpopular opinion. I rewatched it recently as an adult and I think the movie was solid as it's own thing, the ending even made me tear up a little. As a kid I thought it was too creepy but I was kind of a pussy. I remember the leeches scene freaking me the fuck out as a kid but now I was pretty into it. Maybe I'd feel differently if I knew what was cut or changed. The aesthetic and atmosphere is really cool and gloomy and the soundtrack is fantastic. Carrey is pretty wacky but I think he can pull off threatening pretty well. The tension from none of the adults in these children's lives not believing them about this abusive creep who plans to do them ill is realistically grim. I can imagine their struggle probably resonated hard with young readers who have a parent that mistreats them and can't get anyone to listen to them.
>>155991531I can tell by that handwriting that this comes from a girl
The books are my favorite series of all time. The movie was certainly something but not very faithful to the first three books. Basically just Jim Carrey playing himself but in the SoUE universe. The show adaptation was incredible and very faithful. I am not even remotely a fan of NPH but I think he did a great job as Olaf. And Patrick Warburton as Lemony Snicket was a 10/10 casting choice
Yet another book series that would've benefited from an ANIMATED adaptation
>>155956607>A Series Of Unfortunate Events How unfortunate we talkin'?
>>155956607>Nick Mag TAKE ME BAAACK
>>155988539Love me a good stylized credits sequence
>>155995686Pretty unfortunate. But I mean really its just a lot of murder.
>>155993423I think I'm almost the opposite of you in most the casting choices. Warburton felt too gruff to be Lemony, he doesn't come across as unassuming enough to fly under people's radar. Lemony strikes me as someone who could fit in a cracker barrel and somehow still write what's happening to him.I also preferred Jim Carrey over NPH just because I thought his dramatics fit in with Olaf being a poor actor.That said, loved the tv series way more than the movies
Reading bump
>>155956607Nice, ironically I was just considering it. I really enjoyed the story
>>155956607>>155956613I've long wondered why the characters in the books always have long noses, an obsession with cyphers and secret conspiracies meant to destabilize and ruin the life of the dumb cattle-like people around them.
>>155999775Jim Carey made an amazing Olaf!
>>155956613Reading!
>>155957141Can we get some r34 of Josephine being vored by leeches?
>>155956607I will take every opportunity to say that despite its flaws, this movie is one of my all time favorites. I read the books because of it, loved them, waited over a decade for a sequel, and got a Netflix series that, while better then nothing, wasn't nearly as well-done as the movie. Neil Patrick Harris is trying his hardest, but he's just not scary (except for that one scene in Hostile Hospital for some reason. You know the one). I think the producers went too far into camp.
>>155957321Movie is kino.Books are kino.Show is an accurately written but poorly acted and directed adaptation of the books.I'm thinking about doing a podcast where I make my 30+ year old friends read the books for the first time and see if they like them.
>>155970549Man, the show being animated would've made it easier to swallow the campy performances.
>>155965493It was better than the Potter movies and deserved its chance to shine. Paramount thought about doing a sequel, but dragged their feet too long and the kids aged. I'm jealous of Sonic fans who got a full trilogy of Carrey. At least Sonic 3 had him sounding similar to Olaf. It was the closest I got to seeing him again.
>>155965509The kids are sleeping in the car and having nightmares about Olaf, setting up the even darker sequel where he frames them for killing Jacques and they almost get lynched.
https://youtu.be/Nm6qf8WCGqEYou think she actually did die being burnt alive?
>>155975898Imagine an animated series with character designs by Helquist
>>156003563I agree that NPH isn't really scary but on a rewatch it's disturbing how many people he nonchalantly murders. I thought he was a great Olaf.To me the worst part of the series is Klaus, just because the actor fucking mumbles all of his lines. It's genuinely impossible to understand what he's saying without subtitles.
>>155956607He was so fucking cool. New comics about this are always good!
>>155979721This was objectively the best dvd commentary of all time
>>1559934232bh I was pretty disappointed with the show. Most of all I didn't like the overall tone and visual style at all. It felt phony and condescending in exactly the way the narration in the books was intended to satirize. And I thought the changes to the VFD arc and mythology were not only pointless but undermined the heavier themes of the books.
>>156006299I think the worst part is that the last book was freshest in my mind, I remember that it being rather melancholy and the final episode of the series made it an utter mockery.
>>156007550Truly the best option, I wish more books like this were made
>>155956642kek, I always found Snicket untrustworthy
>>156008898more books like what?
>>155990312cute birbs
>>155975898I really want more art of book Violet. What a cute jewess
>>155975898she looks like she was designed by eyeballtank
>>155961693This might've been the only scene where NPH was menacing
>>156011576Who?
>>155956659That's why bankers aren't trustworthy!
>>155956891Why was Uncle Monty, an european, going to hide in south america?
>>155957264Claus is hilarious in this one kek
>>155961392Provided Violet looked like Emily Browning, I wouldn't mind the style
>>155961649Agreed, I kind of hoped that too. Would be neat to watch his pov since we already got the book and movie for the orphan's side.>>155961684I mean to be fair it used to be common back in better times.>>155961823BASED
>>156011613Is Olaf...one of us?
>>156004923Netflix Olaf is much closer to the books than movie Olaf but I just never found NPH convincing in the role, both visually and performance wise. Jim Carrey hammed it up but in a fun way and really made Olaf come alive physically. He looked like he just stepped out of the cover of the first book.
>>155999775The fact that everyone in VFD is related to each other shows that Daniel Handler was tapping into something real, consciously or not.
>>156013229>Netflix Olaf is much closer to the books than movie Olaf but I just never found NPH convincing in the roleNeither was close IMO, but Carrey was at least good in his own way. Count Olaf is basically Judge Doom, a character so scary he loops back around into being funny. Tim Curry killed it in the audiobooks. They should've gotten him, or Christopher Lloyd.
>>156013229Jim really got deep into the role. Even his costume testing sessions were in-character and fun. https://youtu.be/WsD5uoRqvSQ
>>156012730He wants the money, not the cunny. He might have had both if he'd just been good to the kids.
>>156013488A shame, someone like him, to be so dumb. Maybe if he read a bit more he could've had both and lived the life.>>156013463Yeah its kinda scary if you think about it.>>155999775>ruin the life of the dumb cattle-like people around them.I-is that how they see us, bros?
>>155956613Disappointing, I thought it would present the events from Olaf's side. Its just a rehash of the movie
>>155956607Was there more material of this released?
>>156014673Nope, this is the only piece of /co/ media A Series of Unfortunate Events has ever gotten unless you REALLY want to stretch it and include the brief stop motion Littlest Elf segment
Anybody know if Handler has expressed any interest in writing more about the Baudelaires, like a followup series or something like that? I strongly doubt it but I'm wondering.
>>156018456A quick skim of interviews and his social media would say no
>>156014908I would argue that the credits sequence should count.>>156006062I wish I could find a DL that has it as an available audio track. Seems like all the public trackers just have the basic audio except for one BluRay rip that has the OTHER commentary that is completely serious and about the technical filmmaking aspects.
>>156018456I havent heard anything about him since he made that watermelon joke at a black award ceremony.
>>156019938>credits sequence should countAnon, that's still stretching itAt least Zebras in America can be divorced entirely from the film its in
I had no idea this existed. What other things are hidden in nick mags?
>>156019972That was really jarring and out of perceived character for him.
>>156020334Well for starters, Peter Bagge made a Girly Girl comic in one issue
>>155956607I really loved this book as a kid. I wish there was more
>>156024157Same, its truly unfortunate
>>156024157>>156024343It got 13 books
>>156024411Still not enough!!
>>156026361There are also several additional books that address the surrounding universe
What was the surrounding mystery? I vaguely remember shit like vfd or whatever it was called, but what did the books actually explain? What was the end game? Can an anon spoiler the good stuff?
>>156027336There were no revelations. Apparently the VFD was a conspiracy for firemen to "put out fires" in a metaphoric sense, setting things right by helping during calamities but the group split by some who thought the proper thing to do was not just stopping calamities but rather destabilizing governments and taking care of the goy-I mean cattle-like masses because they are smarter and thus more fit to rule.
>>156027336The books don't explain all that much.Basically there was once an organization called VFD (Volunteer Fire Department) which was originally dedicated to putting out literal and metaphorical fires.At some point a schism occurred for unclear reasons, and some members started causing fires instead of putting them out.The biggest mystery is the contents of the Sugar Bowl and that is never explained. Handler says it's possible to piece it together from what he wrote.
>>155956607Are there any other worlds or comics with worldbuilding like this?
>>155956607It seems like a delightful world to be living in
>>156017755As a kid I poored over the photos in the unauthorized autobiography. I didn't even really care about the narrative I just ogled at the weird pictures. I finally reread the book last year and I never realized how funny it is.
>>156031680Its like a better Kafka
>>155956607reading bumpthanks for the storytime OP
>>155956607Thanks a lot op, really enjoyed it!
>>155956607I remember having watched the movie and been thoroughly bored by it. The adults being all stupid and clueless is just annoying in a live-action movie, where you expect people to act more like live-action people. Felt really like one of those things that are an interesting adventure in a children's book, written from the children's perspective, but put on the big screen is just bad. This comic is much better medium.
>>156033766It's Jim fucking Carrey Anon
>>156033787I know what you mean, but if I wanna watch Jim Carrey, I got a lot of good movies to pick from. I don't need an awkward children's book adaptation.
Is it weird if I wish I could be Olaf?
>>156027336I like the fan theory where their parents were secretly alive the whole time and all the events were grooming the kids to be inducted into VFD, the kids setting the hotel on fire in the end was their initiation since everything came full circle.Thematically it works, too. The only thing more cruel than the Baudelaire parents dying is them being alive but manipulating their children behind the scenes and intentionally traumatizing them.
>>156034277Yes, he was a loser, anon!
Movie Violet looks much better than book Violet
>>156036030Just don't look up how she looks now
>>156037158Really? What happened to her, anon?
>>156037336It's too horrible for words
>>156037158>>156036030>>156037336>>156037353She looks finehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQOoYpiGTCo
>>156037353>>156038570Dare I say...unfortunate?
>>156038570SHE'S AUSTRALIAN?!?!
>>156038666
>>156034277Is ti weird if the whole time I was rereading the series I kept imagining Gul Dukat saying all of Olaf's lines? He just has that vibe.
>>155956607I loved the ending (pic not related; it’s my favorite illustration from the novels) to this book series. Shame the Netflix show ruined it.
A Series of Unfortunate Events was my last "children's book series." Granted, the only other series of the kind I read back then was Harry Potter and I dropped it by book four because I found it lame. By then I was reading classics (Verne, Doyle, Wilde, Twain, Dickens, Poe) and devouring books on mythology and folklore.But the series just captivated me in a very special way. It helped me come to terms with the whole "nobody is completely good or evil in this world" realization that shatters childhood innocence.I also fell deeply in love with Violet. Wrote fanfic, drew shitton of fanart. By then I was very familiar with developing feelings for fictional characters, but I think Violet was the first one I became truly obsessive about.
>>155956607Hello! To those who have engaged with ASoUE through the books or adaptations but didn’t read the Unofficial Biography seen in:>>156031680>>156017755A fun bit of lore in it reveals that except for his final one, none of Count Olaf’s disguises were original or were even made by him. They’re all leftovers from his old VFD spy kit.>>156027336VFD is basically a private/independent non-profit spy agency with mostly benign intentions, aims, and philosophies like Kingsman from the Kingsman franchise, although VFD was much more obsessed with puzzles and being well-read almost to the point of being pretentious. It’s mostly eaten itself alive by the present day due to a three way schism among bad actors who wanted to do more profitable villainy, conservatives that wanted to keep things as they were, and moderates who thought that the organization’s more sketchy tactics such as recruiting/kidnapping orphans to swell the ranks needed to go.You can learn more about it in the All the Wrong Questions 4 part prequel (also by Lemony), but in the context of the Baudelaire’s woes, it acts as a metaphor for the stupid and almost childish games that adults play to feel clever and powerful no matter how much collateral damage is done.
>>156027336>>156028555>>156043055The live action Netflix series went a bit more in depth with VFD and Olaf's true motivations for why he targeted the Baudelaires. It was probably in the books but hidden beneath codes and hints/implications that were never fully explained.
>>156043208Yeah but it lacks the soul and charm of the movie. There's just *something* about the movie...
>>156038570That's just how most women look like without makeup
When will the author make a sequel?
>>156045339Author is fat and old. That's like asking George R. R. to finish asoiaf
>>156034277Not at all. The only thing I've ever truly wanted in this life is to be a proper villain. >>156040503That's not a bad voice for him at all; they have the same odious and sly quality about them, though Olaf only thinks he's as charismatic as Dukat is.
>>156043208In the books it's implied that the Baudelaire (parents) killed Count Olaf's father.>>156045339He already did, technically. The Beatrice Letters. No, you don't get a clean answer about what happens to the Baudelaire siblings and yes that's on purpose.
>>156028555>>156043208>>156046406The VFD makes me think of thishttps://youtu.be/4adL4bMDuL8
>>156047467I miss the venture bros, it was quite similar now that you mention it
>>156048072I miss it too
>>156043016Are you gonna share that fanart?Because she's in dire need of it.
>>156048942Exactly!
>>156047467Why did the VFD consider they had the right to destabilize countries and enslave/burn down the homes of those they deemed a threat?
Wait, was Olaf supposed to be the bad guy?
>>156051452The VFD had long turned into yet another petty organisation people participated in to secretly show themselves and others in the know how great they were over others with their petty power plays.
>>156051956Yes because he didn't accept their diversity like a good goy-I mean, a good citizen.
>>156052806But he’s Jewish?I think the author said unless stated otherwise, assume everyone is Jewish.
>>156053259Is there any text that supports this?
>>156053470The author is Jewish himself.
>>155956607Man this brings me back
>>156048942>>156049585If I manage to find my art from twenty years ago, sure, I will post it.30% of it was smut.
>>156055364Bumping for this out of curiosity
>>156051452The “Good” VFD: Because they’re “smart”, that is, they know how to properly use the word “literally” and stuff like that.The Bad VFD: They just want cash. I am not joking. They are very fixated on stealing monetary fortunes specifically. Schemes involving real estate, money laundering, and the like are too complicated for them but most are comfortable with that fact provided you don’t point out how legitimately ignorant they are.
>>156057516Firefighting VFD was originally a reactive organization that responded to emergencies as good Samaritans. They eventually realized this wasn't enough because people with nefarious intentions are proactive, so they switched to a proactive "hide and protect things from them" approach. At the same time, after the schism they started mirroring some elements of their counterparts because the whole theme is "nobody is fully good nor fully evil."Fire-starting VFD are primarily motivated by petty vendettas and greed, yeah. There's a strong element of anti-intellectualism but that is also fed by the pettiness that happened after the schism.
I remember starting to read the Series of Unfortunate Events books when I was in elementary school and eventually giving up halfway through because of how monotonous it was becoming
>>156057516I would have felt right at home in the VFD as a loser whose only great skill or source of self esteem was being well read.
>>156057516Funny, so the Bad VFD would certainly organize an island to lure in billionaires to in order to blackmail them out of their fortunes and political power?
>>156057516There are no good VFD members
>>156047467I'd love a crossover between Venture Bros and the VFD
>>156060257Me too, Monarch and Olaf would be hilarious together!
>>155956607Thanks anon, you convinced me to turn off my vapid podcasts and listen to these books on tape instead during my commutes. I never read them as a kid.
>>156060712Do you think Rusty would get creepy with Violet?
>>156058873I suspect this was the appeal for many fans.
I want to fuck Violet while Klaus cheers and Duncan cries.
>>156064583He's literally me
>>156065956He is such a cool guy
>>156067125Yes...captain Julio Sham truly is the best.
>>155957252It always amused me at how retarded his plan was, given a marriage can be annulled if done under duress.
>>156067343He was more than ready to kill the kids as soon as it was signed and he could gain control over their fortune. By the time the bumbling authorities could even start investigating whether there was any coercion the Baudelaires would've been buried.Not to mention his plan was already a legal loophole: he could marry her because he was her legal guardian so he only needed permission from himself to do so.
>>155957321>>155960351I highly recommend them, even as an adult. They're designed to increase your vocabulary and critical thinking, while being a hilarious parody of how shitty life can be sometimes. They helped me out a lot as a kid, since they carry the message that you can make life significantly less shitty for yourself and the people around you by learning to be competent enough to mitigate the worst of it. I like that Snicket didn't pull any punches on the fact that the people around the kids got murdered in gruesome ways and doesn't act like kids, in general, are fragile retards.
>>155992708The fake marriage bit was strictly confined to the first book and the solution was different; she signed with her non-dominant hand, thus nullifying the signature..The movie trimmed down on a good bit of scenes, but at least compensated fairly well for doing so. It even had hints at plot points that wouldn't be relevant until much later in the series. Damn shame they never finished the series with Carrey and the kids.
>>155995686>kidnapping>forced marriage>torture of infants>arson>bed crabs>lynching>mushrooms that grow inside your lungs>poisoning>being torn apart by voracious sea life>cults that passive aggressively force everybody to get drunk to stay happy>spongy bread>the utter despair of adults not believing shit you say>those same adults placing you with outright evil people>bubblegum and coupons, instead of wagesAnd that's not even all of it. Shit gets pretty grim.
>>156067381What did he intend to do to Violet if his plan was successful?
>>156067891Kill her, I already said so. For all his perversions Olaf wasn't a pedophile.
>>156067401as an adult, I kinda appreciate more how absurd and grotesque the plot can be. I got through enough situations that felt like a joke and saw enough stupidity from myself, other people, society, and whole systems to view that aspect of the series in a different light.Rereading the books as an adult also let me notice more literary references, as a kid I only caught the most obvious ones.And of course I missed the part where each of the books parodies some literary trend, since I wasn't aware of most of them.
>>156067891>>156067908Honestly, I got the impression that Olaf wasn't attracted to Violet, but if the marriage actually happened it's possible he would force himself on her anyway out of cruelty, and because he could and there was no one who could stop him. He's a man who revels in being able to do what he wants no matter what others may think of it, and of course he likes seeing the orphans suffer.There are some bits in the book that encourage you to imagine Violet actually being Olaf's wife, too. I don't think they're supposed to imply he would treat her as his wife, more to creep out the reader, but the idea is there.>Olaf telling Violet she's "a lovely girl" and that he won't kill her off like he will her siblings>one of the henchmen telling Olaf "yes, I know she's yours, boss" on the phone>Violet imagining a life with Olaf>multiple characters pointing out Violet is prettyHonestly, it's one of the things I didn't really pick up on as a child, but as an adult it's easily one of the more unsettling ideas to appear in the whole series.
>>156068336Sometimes I wonder how degenerate Olaf could've gotten.>Rape Violet next to the asphyxiated corpses of her siblings until she breaks down mentally, then he torches the place and blames it on her
>>156068336He may just put a baby in her to cement his claim to the fortune
Is Count Olaf a virgin?
>>156069735He had Esme so no.Speaking of, yes or no on show Esme?
>>156069767I think the actress does a fantastic job
>>156069735I doubt it
I want more steampunk dystopian worlds
>>156071637I wouldn't call this one steampunk... more like... vaguely early 20th century punk.
You just know Violet invented a mechanical dildo at some point.
>>156072462She's the kind of girl who would
>>155956613A shame this was a repeat of the same
So what happened to the VFD after The End?
>>156073409There wasn't much of VFD left to begin with, and most of the remaining members died in the Denoument hotel fireUnless the Quigleys and Baudelaires revived it it was probably done for good, and I can imagine they'd have good reasons not to do that
>>156073409I don't think the author thought that far
Actually insane how good Carrey was as Olaf, just ruined by a dogshit script rewrite.
>>156074759I just never liked Carrey as much because, while Olaf does have his goofy moments, at the end of the day he's a fucking serial killer and Carrey never really showed that side well
>>156074973It's kind of like Carrey as the Riddler, just not as evident.I've heard some people claim it's the same problem with him Robotnik.
>>156074973The shot of him walking up behind Monty was done pretty well, I think
>>156074973>he's a fucking serial killer>Carrey never really showed that side wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmuFXTzOp4sknife, and each cutaway instance of him removing the person he replaced (Gustav, Captain Sam)Carrey's Olaf is goofy, but lurking just under the surface is the killer
>>156075190Also this shot
>>156076194The movie is a lot more gothic, but the series feels bleaker.Still, my ideal adaptation of this story would be animated. Impossible, but nice to dream.
I hated this movie and book series because the boy I had a massive fucking crush on was fixated on that violet bitch.Then again that's also why I learned to resent anime, capes and goth girls.
>>155956607based. (a word which here means OP isn't a faggot, for once.)
>>156077736......you hated it because you thought Violet was cute?
>>156078017No, I hated it because the boy I liked thought she was cute.
>>156078088Oh okay, sorry I misread and didn't realize you were gay
>>155979721this is so good hahahahaha>>156067401same anon, I fucking loved these books. the repeating turns of phrase, reoccurring jokes, and sense of mystery were unmatched. reading through the thread, it seems I'm alone in thinking the netflix adaptation was pretty good.
>>156078110As someone who also loved the books... I think it was also a decent adaptation.Although let's be fair, it did pull its punches a little bit.
Was she always a lost cause?
>>156078236I think it more than made up in other areas. I especially like the set design and how it played into being theater sets. the costumes and disguises were also great. little details like changing the intro every so often, adapting most of the jokes about "you should not be reading this" into "you should not be watching this". and the music was also pretty good. I dunno, I think it is a better adaptation than the 2004 movie, as much as I love that one too. https://youtu.be/fWrjbmij1UY
>>156078320Yesn't.She was a lost cause in the sense that she chose her side and stuck to it. She's not in the sense that nobody is fully evil. Even Olaf did one good thing before kicking the bucket.
>>156078387Oh yeah, I fully agree with you. It's probably going to be the most faithful adaptation we'll ever get.
Any drawfags here?I don't think we're ever gonna get another chance
>>156078919What's the request?
>>156078110I absolutely love the series and I periodically rewatch it. I can agree with the criticism that it lacks a sense of gravitas compared to the books, and the scenography is subpar compared to the movie, but otherwise I find it to be a near perfect adaptation. I also prefer NPH to Carrey as Olaf. He's MUCH funnier in the role (you can argue that Olaf isn't supposed to be especially funny, but on other hand Carrey also went the funny route with the character so it's fair to compare them that way).
>>156079530NothingI just wanted to know in case other Anons had ideas
>>156079790>>156078919Some Violet meeting Anon would be nice!
>>156067891>>156067908>>156068336Book Violet is one thing, movie Violet was a very attractive girl of historically marriageable age. They really should have casted someone younger if they wanted to make it look as purely part of a ploy.
>>156081092She was described as attractive in the books too.Perhaps Olaf was indeed vile enough to rape her. I mean, at that point he had already proven to be the worst of the worst.
>>156081230Was he...one of us?
>>155972129She's like 40 now.
>>155956607>>156067401So I take it the movie bombed since we never got any sequels? Considering all the wild and dangerous stuff in them and the kids having to stay kids, I think the animated approach would have been smarter.
>>156081597It did ok, but Paramount was expecting it to be a Harry Potter level success.As already mentioned in the thread, sequels were considered but they waited too long and the kids aged out of the roles.
>>156081675Which was pretty silly.Harry Potter is a whimsical series about clear "black and white" morality and explains everything, sometimes as soon as it's revealed. ASOUE is a comically dark series that by all means rejects such moral absolutism and deliberately leaves things unexplained because it values questions more than answers. Ironically, the latter is more "occult" in a sense than the series about magic.So the two appealed to very different types of nerdy kids.
>>156081950Studio execs don't think like that. They just go "Well, Harry Potter is a children's book, and so is ASOUE. We just need to hire as many big names as we can and we have a guaranteed success on our hands".
>>156082009One would think they would've learned the lesson.How's that Percy Jackson and Divergent cinematic universe going?
>>155956607This movie and the Golden Compass adaptation were both great and I was always annoyed that the terrible Narnia movies ended up being the big post Harry Potter young adult fantasy success, both got readapted as decent streaming shows at least. (never watched the golden compass show but people seem to like it, I think the netflix unfortunate events show was pretty good.)
>>156082332>was always annoyed that the terrible Narnia moviesI heard Caspian was divisive amongst readers but I thought Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe was accurate for the most part?
>>156082347The problem is that the Narnia book series just isn't that good. I've read all sorts of garbage as a kid and a lot of it and even I remember thinking that they were lame and boring.
>>156082527The Last Battle's pretty nuts though by the end
>>156003563The show also does really baffling shit like have Olaf's entire gang come with him on all his schemes.
>>155956715....is he wiping a painting?
>>156078320>>156078438Carmelita is objectively the funniest joke in the final quarter of the series despite how she will probably never make you laugh in any version of the story.As mentioned in >>156068336Olaf is a humongous bully that is especially cruel to children such as the Baudelaires and the Quagmires, who are a bit nerdy and pretentious but are otherwise nice youths. But from the 10th book onwards he is forced to act as a surrogate father to a pointedly cruel, spoiled, and stupid child - the polar opposite of all the orphans he's been harassing (and especially of the three he could have actually had as surrogate children) because his.semi-gf who is much crazier and more dangerous than he is. And Carmelita, for as proudly ignorant as she is, knows it, and oh does she love to poke at it.
>>156082562Finally, I've met you, the guy who gave studios the idea that a big last battle compensates for the movie being lame crap up to then.
>>156082664No, The Last Battle as in the bookThe one that's basically Revelations complete with an antichrist figure and the end of the world
>>156082527>The problem is that the Narnia book series just isn't that goodpleb
>>156082650The actress for Carmelita does an excellent job as well, gotta be genuinely one of the most talented child actors ever
>>156082733Same thing.>>156082823Name one non-obscure children's adventure series that's more boring than Narnia.
>>156069767Hell yes on show Esme.
>>156082957>Same thing.Did you even read it?
>>156082972Yes, I literally just told you that I did a few posts ago, how awful is your short-term memory? The Narnia world's unimaginative lameness is only overshadowed by the even more boring characters populating it, and don't start me on the kids. Even characters from Z-grade pulp books were more memorable.
>>156083072Anon, I didn't mean the actual fight in The Last Battle being nutsI meant shit like when the villains trying to organize a scam religion and pretending to summon an evil god only for it to backfire on them horribly when they actually summon ending with one of the animals essentially losing his soul in the process or how Aslan just wipes out Narnia by waking up Father Time himself to crush the sun with his own hand
>>156082957Beast Quest?
>>156083091I don't understand why you think that redeems an overall shockingly boring reading experience. A few insane scenes do not a good story make. Or else almost every shounen manga would be considered a masterpiece.>>156083102>non-obscure
>>156083161>I don't understand why you think that redeems an overall shockingly boring reading experience. You have your tastes and others' have their ownI just wanted to play devil's advocate that Narnia does have an appeal with genuinely shocking moments Admittedly it is basic compared to more modern fantasy but that comes with the territory of A LOT of it being derived from it
>>156083161>non-obscureSort of?Beast Quest has apparently sold millions but nobody talks about it because it's the McDonalds of fantasy novels
>>156082527I'm gonna be that guy and say "Narnia's Christian allegories were so on the nose they meddled with the quality of the books."I respect C.S. Lewis a lot but as a kid I just kept thinking "yeah... I wish I was reading Tolkien instead."
>>156083246>I'm gonna be that guy and say "Narnia's Christian allegories were so on the nose they meddled with the quality of the books."Space Trilogy is the better series than handled Lewis' theological beliefs The first person to adapt the fist fight in Perelandra should get an award
You know what? I'm just gonna confess.If you ever read an incredibly shitty Animorphs x A Series of Unfortunate Events fanfic... that was me. I'm sorry.
>>156083284Name?
>>156083284Tell me you had Olaf transform into something
>>156082957Eragon
>>156083196It was basic already then. I think no one would even remember it nowadays if not for the hamfisted christian themes. Lion Jesus is literally the only thing that sticks in your memory after reading that dull thing.>>156083234I don't know where it sold millions, but I literally never heard of it despite being an avid fantasy, adventure and sci-fi reader. If pressed to guess what it was before you told me, I would have said it's an obscure JRPG from the late 90s that was never translated to English.>>156083246Speaking of Tolkien, he was super-christian too, but didn't go the way of one to one adaptation of ultra-boring scenes from the bible like Lewis had, Tolkien only took the main themes like a divine plan, powerful nature of all good deeds and the self-destructive nature of evil. If I had to guess, Tolkien probably had a 100 IQ points on Lewis.>>156083666Nope. Eragon has many things wrong with it, but it's at least entertaining.
>>156083704>It was basic already then.Then why do you think it was successful to begin with?
>>156083704>If I had to guess, Tolkien probably had a 100 IQ points on Lewis.Tolkien himself would probably disagree dude
>>156083718Bare in mind I meant as a thinkerNot regarding in use of allegory and themes in writing I'm well aware of Tolkien's criticism
>>156083713Because Lewis was famous already and it was specifically marketed at children and adults bought it for them. Truth is, of course, adventure literature is already simple enough for kids to read even if it's not made for them. 100% all the kids that read it back then would have rather been reading John Carter of Mars or something similar. It's shit like Dostoevsky that a child's brain will have difficulties digesting, doesn't stop people from sticking it in school programs.>>156083718>>156083796I was judging specifically off their works. But even as a thinker. Writing religious apologetics is the most intellectually dishonest and/or morally bankrupt a writer can get. I've read quite a few in my youth (brother is a priest) and boy are those books either dishonest or delusional, especially striking considering how respected by their contemporaries most of the writers were. And on a slightly off-topic note, I thought shit like freely interpreting the bible was supposed to be called heresy and be banned by the church, not encouraged as reading. Guess they were desperate even back then.
>>156043016>It helped me come to terms with the whole "nobody is completely good or evil in this world" realization that shatters childhood innocence.What? The is only good and evil in the world. Gray morality is something that only exists in fiction.
>>156084296This bait is too retarded even for 2026 /co/.
>>156084328Don't you have more complaining about Narnia to be doing?
>>156084335If you wanted to start discussing A Series again, the least you could have done is post something non-retarded.
>>156084426>bro evil is totally radical and should be explored in your ever day lifeKys.
>>156084556Literally no one is either the best or worst person they can be. Everyone is somewhere in-between. You have to have super-autism to not understand that everyone is some shade of grey morally.
>>156084653>it's okay that you're evil>don't strive to be better>you're fine just the way you areJfc
>>156084684When did anyone say any of that? God you're awful at bait.
>>156043016I agree, it deserved Potter's popularity.
>>156084838NTA, but it was implied here >>156084653
>>156084838So not only are you evil trying to corrupt others, but you're retarded.
>>156084848Quality-wise, it did. But it's obvious why it didn't attain it. A funny odd and smart film can't compete with what's essentially a magic world school isekai. Execs were fools to even hope it would do similar numbers. Potter, however mediocre the series turned out overall, was a phenomena.
>>156084856How does "everyone IRL has good and bad sides and has done good and bad things" translate to "it's OK to be evil and not improve" to you? Are you on powerful perception-bending drugs? The other guy's schizo/troll argument is that everyone is clearly good or evil, BTW. Either you act like Jesus or Freddy Kruger, no third option.
>>156085311Morality is relative, that's what I've learned in this century
>>156083704>If I had to guess, Tolkien probably had a 100 IQ points on Lewis.Nah, he just had a strong foundation of mythology, poetry and epic cycles that he studied and internalized in ways many people, including some of his friends, couldn't. For all his Christian messaging, he understood what made Pagan myths thrilling and eternally relatable and applied that to his writing.Lewis on the other hand was a very smart man, and a competent writer. But when I say his Christianity got in the way of Narnia I truly mean it. There's this phenomenon I call "conversion euphoria", a period of time (could be months, could be years) when an individual that recently converted to a religion (mostly seen in christianity and islam) experience this immense joy or feel of revelation, thus coloring everything in their lives at best or becoming central to everything they do at worst. This is not to say good literature can't be written by a Christian or have Christian values, mind you. Someone else already mentioned the Space Trilogy by Lewis himself, I just praised Tolkien, and we can go all the way back to Milton and Dante for more great examples.
>>156084848>>156085252Yes, but it appealed to a very different niche.HP is cathartic. ASOUE is apophatic.
>>156086573I have to agree there
>>156059269Oh, is that what book 13 was about...?
>>156086898Well the author is a big fan of Lolita.
>>155956659For some reason the last panel makes me think of the >Oh, these aren't homemade. They're from a factory... a bomb factory. They're bombs.joke from SpongeBob
>>155956607Say what you want about Olaf, guy got style
>>156086254The funny thing is Christian mythology is unusually fucking boring as shit for a religion. It's so dull it's realistic and more believable than the others. Dante and Milton invented almost everything interesting and culturally resonant about it, but their works came too late to be part of the canon. The only exception is Revelations. They crammed all the cool shit in the last chapter like they forgot to add it until then.
>>156087783That's because most of the cool stuff is apocrypha.Book of Enoch, Testament of Solomon, Sirach, Esdras, Baruch and more in the Old Testament. The New Testament had the Gnostic "canon" like the Hymn of the Pearl, the Gospels of Thomas and Mary. Then early christianity had the writings of the Ophites, Sethians, Cainites, the Book of Holy Hierotheos, early Luciferianism.Abrahamic mythology suffers from four problems: The first is that the three major religious currents fought very hard to not be associated with pagan contemporaries even after syncretizing their spirits, gods and traditions. Therefore, certain archetypal heroic or mystical narratives had to be avoided. You still can see some, like Samson or Joseph (the dreamer).The second is that, because they are monotheistic their entire narrative needs to portray their God as always victorious AND their people as righteous. In the Ancient world, the notion of Exodus was laughed at by everyone, and the idea of David delivering a hundred foreskins to his god was seen as particularly disgusting. However, the way this issue manifests is as the next problem: Literalism. Even the people who believe pagan gods can be met in the flesh know their myths are for you to ponder, not to treat as literal historical fact. Christianity, Judaism and Islam must treat their myths as literal for them to be valid, while pagans know their myths are real despite not being literal.And that takes us to the third problem: revisionism and sanitization. Whether we talk about the rabbinic orthodoxy, catholic authorities or the islamic ulama, the canon was ultimately dictated by people in positions of power who understood that the myth makes the man and not the other way around. So they simply took out anything that could empower the flock a little too much, anything that encourages people to lift veils. It ultimately serves to perpetuate the previous three problems.
>>156085311Doing good and bad things doesn't mean accepting that what you've done is normal and just a part of you. People don't have "sides". You should always strive for Eudaimonia.
>>156027336There was none. It was just a series of unfortunate events.
>>156088622So unfortunate it makes me sad!
>>155956607I love the worldbuilding on this?
>>156090213Yeah its very noir
>>156082650>>156078320Does Carmelita count as a mesugaki?I kind of shipped her with Klaus
>>156090896>Carmelita will never call you a cake sniffer to your face
>>156090951>Sits on your face and calls you a cake sniffer>So you punish the shitty brat by forcing her to give you a rimjob while you call her a cake sniffer back
>>155956607Olaf is so evil to Violet in particular
>>156083293It was called "All the Wrong Metamorphoses." I made sure to delete it from everywhere.>>156083340Chimpanzee and Bobbit Worm, later gets invaded by a yeerk and dies just like in The End.
>>156092216That's creative at least, his hair does kind of resemble a bobbit worm
>>156092216Why did you delete it?
>>156092256Right? That's what I was thinking.>>156093100Felt it was way too fucking cringe. And it was mostly about fangirling over Klaus. I'm surprised I had the self-restraint to not write a self-insert OC in there.
>>156093468Why not over Violet?
>>156094453She is a bit of a bitch
>>156094920>>156094453Because I'm a mostly straight woman?
>>156095107W-wow, now that is unexpected!
>>156083704>Nope. Eragon has many things wrong with it, but it's at least entertaining.You just have shit taste
>>156083704>Tolkien probably had a 100 IQ points on Lewis.Nah, Lewis was about as intelligent as Tolkien but he was far more interested in theology than him, Tolkien was into theology as well but his main autism was more about language in general and ancient literature.
>>156090213
>>156090896The Netflix series missed an opportunity to have her be a rival/enemy of Violet specifically and maybe it's a little gay to mirror what they were doing with Olaf and Lemony.
>>156082650Lucy Punch can get it ngl
>>156076803Why "impossible"?
>>156097466Feels somewhat like our world
>>156099067Because animation is expensive and this series is kinda niche, we already got the live action series, and I don't trust modern animation leads to adapt it faithfully.
>>156097513They just adapted as it is but didn't innovate
>>156100202Laika could do it.
>>156101277It'd have to be one movieLaika doesn't like doing sequelsThey outright changed parts of Wildwood's story from the books to prevent the sequel from being possible
>>156101277Hell no. I love Laika but they don't do sequels nor series. They'd probably change a lot of things to fit the story in a single movie.
>>156102103Could she bite someone's head off?
>>156102455She has the bite strength, just not the mouth size.But teach the little shit to do a crocodile death spin and she'll be ripping limbs off like a Mortal Kombat character.
>>156102623Out of them all she's the scariest one
>>156100699I feel like they tweaked the ending to be less of a hollow letdown than the last book was, but I hadn't read it since it came out and it's possible I just became more accepting of the conclusion as it was with age.
>>156083246that's fair. I'd still say they were very high-quality, but Lewis always did have problems with subtlety and exposition, so even when he was writing a children's story specifically to suppress those issues, it still poked out a lot.>>156083283truth. A solid animated adaptation of the Space Trilogy would be superlative kino.the last book would be a pain in the dick though. Man was that one unfocused
>>155956607Truly one of the funniest villains of all time
Do you think Olaf raped anyone in the past?He strikes me as the kind of piece of shit who'd do it if he knew he could get away with it.
>>156105774Can you stop inserting your fetishes into a children's book
>>156105991
>>156106410This so much>>156105774Probably his sister
Sequel when?
>>156107969What the fuck do you mean?The books are over
Favorite Olaf disguise?For me it's Detective Dupin
>>156107969>>156107998You're never going to get clear answers. That's the whole point.
>>156108708Has the author written anything else?
>>155956607Based
>>156109311Yes, he wrote a prequel series. (All the wrong questions)And some random thing about eggssunny side upand toastor something
>>156109523Was it any good?
>>156110085Sure, it gives answers to some things like the great unknown, but most stuff remains a mystery. Like the other anon says, he's probably never gonna answer everything, because the answers aren't the point of the story
>>156110251I like it that way honestly, reminds me of George R. R. Martin who will never reveal it all either
>>156110824Sure, I don't disagree. The mystery makes the world very interesting. I don't care what's in the sugar bowl all that much
>>156110085>>156109523>>156110251There's also Lemony Snicket: The Unauthorized Autobiography and The Beatrice Letters.They give more background... and make a lot of shit even more nebulous (which I love). The latter is a pseudo-sequel but not really.
>>156101358>>156101391>sure the COULD do it, they just WON'TDon't move the goal posts.
>>156111420But I want a faithful adaptation of the books in animation form, not a heavily modified one.
>>155956607FIRE THIS MAN'S BARBER
Halloween Bump
>>156112623Through a cannon!
>>155956613They should have had Olaf as the hero
>>156115413Why?
>>156115747It was a chance to get his pov and instead the comic maker just regurgitated the books
>>156116169Olaf's POV was always "Yes, I did just exactly that and that means I'm based."He was never delusional enough to see himself as a hero. He despises heroism. He revels in his cruelty.Which is why his final act of genuine goodness was both jarring and meaningful.
>>156116330I mean to be fair he truly is based because of that
>>155956607How cool is Olaf?
>>156118137He's a snowman so...
>>156118137somewhat
>>156118922Very much so!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsD5uoRqvSQ
>>155956607Do you find this setting realistic?
>>156119713Racist
>>156121760Ehh... not really. It's relatable and satirical.The fact that competent and good people are the exception and not the rule is realistic. The stupidity of the average man is exaggerated for comedic effects but also very much common. So are traits like nepotism, favoritism, gullible idiocy, love-blindness and more.There's also a sea monster that could also be a robot that could also be a submarine that could also be none of those things.
>>156121820Anon, it's some guy making low effort posts to keep this thread upPretty sure that question is rhetorical
>>156121849And I'm making a low effort post to keep this thread up too by responding, because ASOUE is so rarely discussed I'd rather extend it as much as I reasonably can.
>>156121352Love how even in stupid shit he really gives it his all.
>>155956607Did Anna make Olaf?
>>156116169It's not even the books. It just copies the Jim Carrey movie
>>155956607Olaf is racist
>>156123738Please anon, as if he wasn't based enough already
>>155956607I wish they would make another movie
>>156125005I don't
>Olaf Such a region-specific name to go with for your main antagonist...
>>156126922Etymologically, the second half of the name means "legacy, inheritance." It was on purpose.
>>155956607I wish I could be Olaf!
>>156110835Exactly. I wish more mysteries were made like this.So far I only know Gravity Falls
>>156130154Love how ugly book Olaf looks!
>>156131171That's antisemitic
>>156127632Ohhhhhhhh
>>155956829Well that certainly is one way to get rid of unwanted kids.
>>156134443I find it too expensive, that is a perfectly good car!
>>156128184And marry Violet!
So do you guys think Beatrice Baudelaire killed Olaf's dad?Do you think she was kind of a hoe and led Lemony on only to go and marry someone else? Or maybe Lemony is the real dad of the Baudelaire kids?
