>>22266169
WOW-WEE! What a woman! I'm ready to bow down and call her my Papa if you know what I mean.

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>>22266177

Last time I ordered ‘za from ‘pa ‘hn’s my pizza smelt like a fart. Is it possible someone brapped on my fresh cooked pizza and do you reckon it was a pawg?

>>22266175
I reckon it happened exactly the way you wanted it to happen, big dawg
>>22266171
the cuties get all the tips women live on easy mode

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>>22266180 >>22266182 >>22266219

do think the decline of the franchise can be directly attributed to them ousting john schnatter

>>22266178
You know (((they))) got him too. Sweet Prince

>>22266178
That's not entirely true. He was a strict taskmaster who enforced standards very well but he was still just one man. The decline would have likely happened either way.
Though it's arguable if the company would have expanded as much

You can view the current nation-wide closures as adhering more to John Schnatter's original vision for the company. There maybe was a leap too far in trying to compete with MEGA chains like Dominos or Pizza Hut, or even Little Caesars.
Our competition now is more like Marco's, which is more appropriate. Pairing down the menu and focusing on quality. Maybe every town doesn't have a Papa Johns. Maybe that's better.

meatball papadia was the only thing left I cared to order. from now on this is a little caesar's household.

>>22266189
man if you wanted a meatball calzone there's a lot of other places you could've already got it
we don't even do meatballs at all anymore, at my place
which I think is a mistake
it's a good prestige ingredient no reason to axe it

I figured the pan pizzas would sell well. Pan pizza is really popular right now

>>22266195
it's because we fucked it up
I've said this in past threads but whoever was in the test kitchen made a mistake
it comes out too doughy, it's not dialed in right
you can't adjust the entire oven temp around the occasional pan pizza, so it has to ALWAYS be well-done if you want it to actually function as the product is intended

none of this was clearly communicated to any owners or managers, they were given a stack of pans and a training video and were then told to just make it work

you have to understand, for a normal pizza coming out of the oven the person at the cut table just takes it, boxes it, cuts it, and sends it off with the garlic sauce and a pepperoncini pepper as always
for a pan pizza you need special tools to actually grip the pan out of the oven, then scrape that pan to remove the pan pizza (which requires a special liner in each box) and if your oven temps are off then it's a soggy mess that is nearly impossible to box in an aesthetically pleasing way

try explaining all of that, and implementing it, with a 19 year old with an IQ of 85 working the cut table by himself during a rush
that single pan pizza just fucked up everything
and for what?

I'm being too negative, here's something positive this is what you should ACTUALLY order from us

>Thin crust
trust me
>Wings
we have good wings
>any of the 3 desserts
these are evergreen for a reason

seriously if you're in doubt just get a thin-crust with 2-3 toppings (don't overload it) and some wings and a fucking chocolate chip cookie or something
it's impossible to fuck that up

>>22266200
the one I tried was cooked perfectly it just wasn't better than Dominos while smelling weird and being a total mess to eat

>>22266204
>any of the 3 desserts
I've tried the cookie and brownie and they are indeed great and the brownie is huge -- essentially 9 brownies.

>>22266205
it should still be axed from the menu, nobody has time for that
it's a slog, it ruins efficiency

we should only serve
>Pizzas
>Wings
>Bread Sides
>Desserts
>Sodas
that's the fuck it
that's all we need to be doing

>>22266206
the brownie is king, but the cookie is my favorite yes
not a big cinnamon pullapart guy, but it's also really good
somebody cooked with those 3

we should bring back the twix bites
or the oreo bites
maybe both

>>22266208
my only real complaint with Papa John's is inconsistency in dough flavor. Sometimes the flavor is great sometimes it's tasteless. I assume this is entirely down to how long it was aging before being baked.

>>22266206
>>22266204
to put it simply for like a 1-guy bachelor order I'd go with like
>medium thin crust (whatever toppings you like)
>6 piece wings
>dessert of your choice
pretty sure you can do all 3 with the Papa Pairings deal where they're like 6 bucks a piece

then don't tip your delivery driver because we just use doordash now (unless you know you have a real delivery driver)

>>22266210
yep, if it tastes off they didn't proof it properly
this is common in high-volume locations or if the staff is just not trained well (or lazy managers)
or both

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>>22268203

and if you're struggling to decide what toppings, let me suggest 2 different combinations that have more or less become my signature

THE BBQ STEAK N BAKE
>thin crust
>bbq sauce
>philly steak or beef (depending on location)
>bacon
>onion
tastes like eating brisket, best if Well Done

THE GUY AT THE PARTY WHO ORDERED LIKE A FUCKING ASSHOLE AND THIS WILL BE LEFTOVERS IN THE FRIDGE IN THE MORNING AFTER PEOPLE ONLY ATE 2 SLICES
>completely normal crust
>Double Pepperoni
>Chicken
>Jalapeno
>Pineapple
that's inside ball knowledge

>>22266178
Maybe the whole drama around john saying 'nigger' was just some fabrication to avoid taxation

>>22266219
they baited him into saying it, basically. It was a complete setup. It was like a HR call about sensitivity and he said "I've never said nigger" after they basically baited him into saying the word
total horseshit

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>>22266169
>Papa Johns never dies
I don't know corporate middleman, that sure seems like the case lmao

>>22266169
i had the pan pizza once last time i ordred from Papa and i was pleased. i hope they don't remove it. also i like your threads

>>22266222
yeah we're downsizing dude that's usually how it goes
stores are closing, the weak are being culled, the brand identity is being redefined as not contesting with major chains and instead being a local high-quality option (results pending)

I said that already
>muh stocks
been freefalling since COVID but we're still here man

>>22266225
it doesn't look like the pan pizza is going anywhere despite my gripes
I'm glad you at least enjoy it, but it's a total pain to prepare

>>22266222
also I'm not corporate I'm a manager

>>22266226
>that's usually how it goes
A business failing is not "usually how it goes", that's the horse you hitched your cart to being a sick and dying animal, man.
>it's redefining as not contesting with major chains
So conference call speak for "we're failing". If people want a local high-quality option then they go to a local pizzeria, not fucking papa johns, take a step back and think about what you're saying instead of just slurping down the words of your boss.

All of this is to say that I hope for your sake you're pivoting away from this dying company anon, before it's too late and the stock shares they give you as a bonus become truly worthless. If you've got management experience you can start building again somewhere that's being run well.

>>22266236
>If people want a local high-quality option then they go to a local pizzeria
a brilliant display of ignorance
there are so many locations across the country that ONLY has papa johns as the "higher quality" option
You must live in a city

>>22266236
>All of this is to say that I hope for your sake you're pivoting away from this dying company anon, before it's too late
also btw I appreciate the sentiment but nigga I'm old, I like what I do, I don't need to upscale to some other ship
>If you've got management experience you can start building again somewhere
Sure, for basically no pay increase, and I'd lose all the connections I have with the people and systems that I already understand

>>22266226
>not contesting with major chains and instead being a local high-quality option
I have no problem paying like ~20% more for Papa John's if the product is consistently high quality, but I went to Marco's once and it was unironically equivalent to Little Caesar's Detroit style deep dish.

>>22266246
Marco's is our closest competition but they are (smartly) not expanding that much

and like I said earlier, stores are closing if they do not meet standards - across the board
something like 150 closed this year, with another 100+ to close next year

we are culling the herd and only the best papa johns will survive

>>22266228
same dude here. im a former papa's, dominos, pizza hut, papa murphy's and 3 local chain bro myself. The thing is we did the pan pizzas at Dominos the way you described and sold a lot of them and it's not really a pain. Maybe Domino's bros are just tougher than PJ's bros.

>>22266252
dominos has newer storefronts that are built to accept higher volume
a lot of papa johns locations are still the same tiny single-oven locations with 6 people working there but serving an entire city

>>22266240
>papa johns is the only place you can get good pizza outside of a city you've never been outside the city huh
I have to feel like that's the case for you man, I live in a small town but I travel a lot. I've driven through places with less than 10k people that have a few local pizza places that destroy papa john's. They're not sublime or anything but papa john's isn't either and it's not better than those. Maybe you've gaslit yourself into thinking that's not the case but you're corporation's pizza is not that good.

>>22266250
>we're closing hundreds of stores
This is not a good thing. You can try to spin it as being a good thing but it's really not.

>>22266258
I'm not saying it's a good thing
I'm saying it's a needed adjustment

and "muh local pizza place is better" is what everybody says, about any chain pizza, ever

>>22266261
>that's what everyone says
Because it's true. Not because those places are a portal to Italy but because the alternative is... fuckin papa johns. If your pizza was as good as you pretend it is then you guys wouldn't be closing so many stores, would you?
It's probably not going to get any better. If you've decided to tie yourself to that sinking ship like a good loyal worker then it's your funeral. Management is flexible and you can manage at a place that isn't dying but if you'd rather fail comfortably than try somewhere else then that's your choice.

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>>22266268

Papa John's is the only place I will order a spinach alfredo pizza. You should add extra grated parmesan on top when you get it though if you want it to be really good.

>>22266263
>If your pizza was as good as you pretend it is then you guys wouldn't be closing so many stores, would you?
the really need to get their dough consistency under control. At its best PJ mogs the hand tossed from every other major chain.

>>22266263
>Because it's true
costs more, probably doesn't deliver as far

>>22266264
yeah our vegi pizzas are really good
the spinach tomato alfredo one is always solid

>>22266265
They can't even get their garlic dipping sauce right, that shit's watery half the time.

>>22266267
You forgot "still open," they probably deliver farther than those 150 closed stores do kek

>>22266270
>They can't even get their garlic dipping sauce right,
....it comes in a cup
sealed
it's the same recipe every time
it's the same recipe it always has been
if the sauce separates it's because it was in a warming delivery bag too long, you just shake it up. Like a normal person.
>You forgot "still open," they probably deliver farther than those 150 closed stores do kek
why are you comparing single local locations to a global chain?
I already said we're downsizing. WE KNOW locations are closing. Hater ass bitch

>>22266273
>why are you comparing local options that are all over the place to a global chain?
Anon you are the one who said they were trying to pivot into being a "local hjgh-quality option." If you want to be that then you're going to be compared to that. It's apparently not going well and I'm not a "hater" for recognizing that, you're delusional for not.

Unfortunately, after years of routine consumption, I've had to stop eating Papa Johns. I woke up the other day and thought I actually WAS Papa John.

>>22266273
And shaking the watery garlic dipping sauce does not turn it into the creamy version, everyone shakes it before opening because you can't shake it after you open it, and if that fixed it then you'd never encounter it to begin with. Tell your higher ups to fix their recipe, Mr Manager.

>>22266200
That's ridiculous. My chain just upgraded the cheesy bread pans that we use and formatted the pan pizzas into them, so they're easy to deal with. They got too greedy on the price point though so we barely sell any outside of the 50% off lunch special.

>>22266278
dawg I think you're just intent on alogging papa johns as a business honestly
>>22266280
>Tell your higher ups to fix their recipe
the recipe that we've used for decades, globally?
I'll get right on telling them to change it
>>22266281

>>22266283
>the same recipe we've been doing for DECADES? how could we change that???
The same way you said they were changing the entire brand identity to pivot to an entirely different niche because they're circling the drain. What, you nod your head when they say they're changing the brand's whole identity but slightly updating a recipe to improve it(this happens a lot with fast food, see the whopper change recently) is unthinkable?
I imagine if I suggested they change their brand identity in the thread when those weren't already your marching orders you'd laugh at me and tell me I have no idea how papa johns works because that would be too much of a change. But here we are.
>I don't have that power
No shit, I didn't actually think you did. I'm saying it's an issue and has been one. I'm sure you have a way to send manager feedback for what little it's worth so put that suggestion in for me, please.

>>22266291
if we changed the garlic sauce recipe people would riot and you know that

>>22266291
>marching orders
>for what little it's worth
>please
you're being extremely condescending when I've done nothing but be open and honest with you
I really dislike people like you

>>22266298
Not if it was better, or just less likely to separate while tasting the same. The taste is good, it just needs to function better when carried in hot bags, which is where it is supposed to be. Fast food rebrands/identity shifts tend to go badly(cracker barrel) but ingredient/product updates and improvements tend to go well (whopper, steak n shake beef tallow fries).

>>22266302
Big food corporations make minor changes to their recipes all the time. I don't know why you are acting like it would be unreasonable for them to make a slight change to their dipping sauce for consistency when places do this all the time to good effect. Those same people in R&D that you said fucked up the pan pizza dough probably have a quota of experimental changes that they make to the dipping sauce every year during internal product testing just to see if they can improve it slightly or come up with something that can pivot into a new flavor. That's probably how your spicy garlic dipping sauce was born. They're probably internally doing exactly what I suggested and that you act like is unreasonable, they just haven't been able to figure it out.
Maybe they should change up their R&D team to help improve the company longterm unironically

>>22266309
>blah blah blah
how about you suck my dick and balls faggot
I'll answer any ACTUAL good questions that aren't just this guy bitching about his garlic sauce splitting when I wake up later today

>>22266283
Did you mean to type a response to me?
>>22266281

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>>22266311
You're the manager of a failing pizza chain dude, why are you whining about questions related to what's failing and how they can change?
Must be a lot of your types in corporate with the direction PJ's is going.

>>22266315
Nah I'm just choosing to not respond to you because you're not actually asking questions out of curiosity, but out of spite. I'll answer the cool people later but you're cut off, bud.
I already told you I'm just a manager and don't have corporate level decision making so when you tell me to fix fundamental business decisions that you know aren't my job it's just you being a dick and I'm not gonna entertain it.
Have a great day.

>>22266319
>I can't change fundamental decisions
I never said that, but you have no way whatsoever to give feedback to your higher ups in any way about how things are run? No way to make known that customers are feeling this way or that about things?
Maybe you were wanting more shallow questions along the lines of "are the boxes really cardboard at your place" or "what is your dumbest employee's favorite movie" but it's genuinely more interesting to discuss why a company is failing and the things that could be done to change that, even if you don't have a magic wand to make them reality all by yourself and it might be a depressing topic for someone working there as manager.

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>>22266329 >>22266337

Hi OP, if I asked them to undercooked a pizza, would they? I wanna get a plain cheesey and add my own toppings at home cause I can get em cheap in bulk. Then I'll just top up the pizza and chuck it in the oven for a few to fuse the toppings on. Would this work?

>>22266328
no, we can't undercook it

>>22266329
Not asking you, dweeb.

>>22266325
I told you you're cut off dude stop posting

>>22266333
OP, stop responding to the idiot and answer my question por favor.

>>22266330
that was me I forgot my name
we're not allowed to undercook it even as a custom order, sorry

>>22266328
Food safety regulations don't allow for that

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>>22266336
That's fricked, I don't like that. But I guess I get it, yall got standards and policies and lawsuits. How much more do you think one of your plain cheesers can tolerate? 10 minutes at 550 °F? 5 minutes?

>>22266337
Again, you're not OP, do not respond to me, I did not ask you.

>>22266333
Someone working day in and day out as manager no doubt has thoughts about how they would change things in a company that is failing above. Do you not reflect during slow hours on how things could be done differently to turn around the current trend?

what happened to the burgers?

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>>22266348 >>22266354 >>22266355 >>22266382 >>22266397 >>22266426 >>22268310

I'm just gonna shut the thread down and stop responding
let it die
clealry it's just rude niggers asking "why can't you tell the company to change the garlic sauce recipe"
OR
"why can't I order an undercooked cheese pizza (and nobody else tell me why I'm wrong)"

this thread was a mistake
this will be the last thread
goodbye niggers

>>22266343
>>22266346
Great, look what you did, asshole.
You made OP mad.

>>22266339
I don't know how it is at Papa John's, but here at Panago we have a 550° 5 minute oven cycle.

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>>22266382

sigh. I miss the PJs of my college town. they sometimes had a dude roaming around outside the bars offering free slices to drunk kids. they competed with local pizzerias for our business and they were honestly comparable quality-wise back then

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>>22266369 >>22266379

>>22266346
Sorry for trying to lighten the mood, OP, it was a half-serious question at least because the last time I got pizza out I ordered a plain and added pepperoni, basil, and honey butter at home. The pizza I got from this place actually was undercooked so it worked out that I could add my own toppings and finish it on the oven.

>>22266346
Well what the fuck questions were you wanting? It's fine to ask if they'll undercook a pizza, most people don't know. You could have told the Yui-poster about when a pizza was undercooked and someone complained or about how the ovens work or something. It's not that serious man. Get a fuckin grip.

>>22266350
Really? That's so short. I make pizzas at home at that temp and it's like 10-15 minutes.

>>22266350
Do you guys do a more thin crust style of pizza? I've never had Panago's, what's good there?

>>22266226
>local high-quality option
no one is falling for that

>>22266356
It's a natural gas oven, so there's lots more air circulation.

Geez, OP is almost as mean as the hot bar anon, wow

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>>22266354
A lot of smaller local places do take-and-bake pizzas so you might be able to find one that accommodates that, just not a big chain probably.

>>22266358
We're a Canadian chain. Yes we do thin crust, you get dough of the size below what you ordered stretched out (small -> medium thin) plus it's rolled in cornmeal.

The most popular pizza aside from the generics is probably the chicken club, my wife likes the chicken taco and I'm partial to the spicy capicollo.

https://www.panago com/menu/pizzas

>>22266354
We won't because it's a liability thing. If you got food poisoning then we'd be fucked. No place will do that.

>>22266348
Fuck off.

>>22266346
>this will be the last thread
Good luck bro

>>22266351
>they sometimes had a dude roaming around outside the bars offering free slices to drunk kids
Extremely smart, occasionally think fondly of the pizza place that left few pizza slices at hospice for visitors

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>>22266169
>many locations are CLOSING (with more planned closures into 2027)
I didn't realize they were struggling that much but I guess that's most big chains lately. There was one in my city that served individual slices (for cheaper than most local spots) and I've been missing it since it closed down

>>22266361
Makes sense.

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>>22266369
Yeah I guess someplace more local and friendly would sound about right for that. I'll have to scope them out next time I need some 'za

>>22266346
Don't leave Papabro....I always enjoy your threads

>>22266397
>manager anon was a pizza prepper
>always a vocal papa john’s repper
>and when he go
>all he left us was a sour pepper
;_;

>>22266346
Damn, guess we're gonna have to rebrand to Papa Joe cause it's Papa Joever now...
All those pizzas... Gone... Like sand in the wind... Pour out a cup of pepperoni grease lads, I'm drinking to the good times when me and the old bag would kick back with a couple of 16" pan pies and watch the Rams get crushed on Sunday night football. Yeah those were the days. Gonna miss Papa John, he got me through a lot of hard times like when the factory shut down and I had to start repairing shoelaces on the sidewalk cause the rich folk kicked me out of the hotel lobbies where I used to run my operation. But Papa John? He never abandoned me. Until now.
Farewell.

>>22266169
You should try to get a job at Dominos. I finally tried them a few months back and my mind was blown. Papas and the rest are dead to me now. I don't know when it happened but somewhere along the way Dominos took the ball and ran off with it because it feels like I'm back in the 90's again.
Their website runs flawlessly, their prices are competitive and the food quality is on another level. When I used to order from papa johns or pizza hut it was 8 out of ten times fucked in some way.
I've ordered dominos 5 times so far and it has been flawless every time. I'm actually in shock and afraid that it's stealing my luck in other areas or something I don't know why it's happening. Modern fast food is supposed to suck how are they not fucking up?
Anyways fuck you and fuck nigger johns.

>>22266406
Kek

>>22266216
Last order sounds normal except the pineapple part better to just get a seperate hawaiian

>>22266346
see you next week faggot

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>it's this thread again with the papa john's anon
good, I like this thread

>>22266169
when did you start namefagging?
did you guys start playing Impractical Jokers on the TV at your location yet? I love Sal and Murr, funny motherfuckers.
can I rape you?
what position would the papa goth gf have if you were her boss? would you include her in a papa john's dating sim that was full of other pizza waifus?
happy halloween

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>>22266169
I enjoy it when PJs has meatballs, but they seem to come and go. I liked the pepperoni and meatball one when they had it, I think they called it John's Favorite or some such