WHO IS YOUR OSHIWHO HAVE YOU SEEN LIVE AND HOW DID THEY DOWHO HAS THE BEST ORIGINAL MUSIC
Seriously, why the fuck did they approve this guy over actual idols?
>>10976383Supply must meet demand, I guess. Every con is now devolving to just being a generic nerd con, so random crap from other cons will now be in your con. We got Frieren at renfaires, and Silvagunner at an idol con. In the defense of Silvagunner, they tend to be really good DJ's, it's possible they will have a special-made set full of idol culture references instead of just playing their usual stuff.
usif fell off jfc
this is what happens when you have males organized something that is feminine and largely female.look at the idol events in the states organized by women. they don't veer off and lose focus.
>>10976381why make a new thread? was there something you were trying to bump off?>>10976392are we misgendering ashes? is she not the one along with her posse pioneering the vtuber and wotagei movement? >>10976383there are dj's at many idol events in japan, usually a producer. idol fans like to dance as much as they like watching others dance. i think you're making a poor argument here.
Whomst tf is this Silvagunner guy and why is he impersonating SiIvagunner ?
>>10976394Thread reached the bump limit on my end. Might've been a 4chanX thing. I'm the only one making them at this point.
>>10976394If there's something from the previous thread you want to discuss, just link and reply to it here and quit bitching.
>>10976394women is plural. ashes is a woman. her crew are not women.
>>10976381i 100% blame ashes on this one. she opened up the flood gates with vtubers and wotagei. Now we have anikura in USIF.Next year we will have cosplayers but dont worry they will be in idol related cosplays
>>10976403the other thread is still on page 1
awa lineup dropped holy garbage fest
>>10976410Went to look and it's worse than I imagined. This community is officially boring and absolutely cooked.
>>10976410The top row is okay, but everything after that is just embarrassing, who allowed this?
>>10976410Bailey returning as if we didn’t forget how she used her mental health as an excuse to bully a bunch of Florida idols?
>>10976413Neon and Ronan are close friends with them. Its no surprise. Also no surprise the event sucks now.
>>10976410>>10976413Starlight needs to be boycotted until bailey is removed
>>10976417can somebody clarify what happened with bailey?
>>10976418That girl is a psycho. Shes physically, mentally, and financially abused countless people, not to mention shes racist
What's with so many people dropping from US Idolfes? Did something happen with ashes last year?
>>10976418Bailey, aka Kazu, is a notorious bpd psycho who was shunned by all of Florida for harassing cosplayers, maids, con staff and kaigai idols in the 2010s. She’s tried countless times to go under new names and her friends hiding her from involvement, but failed each time. Boycotting will work and end with another bpd crashout as per usual.https://warosu.org/cgl/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Kazu
>>10976411see this should be everyone's final wakeup call that this community is just a hobby friendship circle and not about art or talent. any serious kaigai idols, jump ship to save your sanity. find opportunities outside the community or just do your own thing like lulu bitto. also notice how events ran by asians never get shitty like this lol. white people + idols = usually cringe
careful guys, we know awa idol staff checks the boards. lets hope to see some action behind these words kek
>>10976424All three are literal nobodies clinging on to their idol fest staff position to keep themselves relevant. They don’t have the community influence they think they do.
>>10976424who cares like actually lmfao
>>10976424I rather have no idol programming than any of the current awa idol staff. Starlight used to have prestige to it before it became a my friends festival.
>>10976421The weird thing about her is that she just never made a formal public apology and seems like she just wants to hide under the radar and hope people will have forgotten.It just doesnt look good to be a part of a big fest when you have no following or content that backs up your skills. it looks like favortism from friends running the show, which doesn't help your reputation at all.but maybe not many people applied for awa this year. now that other parts of the country have active idol scenes, there's not much reason to travel far just for awa.
>>10976433fuck it. ill confirm a few big acts applied but were rejected. the staff are ruthless gatekeeping powertrippers and the most difficult department to work with.
>>10976435well? lets hear it
>>10976435Is this AWA con staff stepping in? Spill
>>10976423>events ran by asians never get shitty like this loli'm glad we're all in agreement that arcane maid cafe did nothng wrong. >>10976423i think this is just a red state problem. you reap what you sow. maybe move to a place with civilized people with idol events run by people with a day job.
i know one of you was at plum valley because i passed by someone who smelled like they didn't shower for a week. actually the event was the stinkiest west coast show so far. some of you are so weeb that you mistakenly believe you have the superior abcc11 gene.
>>10976627Bold of you to think anyone here showers once a month.
PSA: Please be aware that Reinabe, also known as Nene in this community, has been accused of abusive behavior. Please consider this information before supporting or engaging with them. Thank you.
>>10976629no details?
>>10976631Literally the first thing that comes up when you look up their name
>>10976627Wow it’s like it was 102 degrees outside and everyone was smelly after waiting 2 hours during the hottest part of the day because the event was delayed significantly. The venue had shit air circulation as well. Don’t pretend you didn’t smell like ass either. Everyone was very aware of each other.
>>10976635if you shower well, use anti persperant and deodorant, you're not gonna smell like shit after sweating from the elements. no one waiting in line was doing strenuous physical activity either. also diet affects your scent too. if you smell from that situation, you have a body odor issue and need medical help. typical moids just act helpless when it comes to trying to improve anything about their well being though.
>>10976636You’re either asian or a sheltered, insecure kid who takes smelltok seriously. It’s normal for anyone outside of Asia to smell after being outside in an intense heat wave. It was so bad that some otaku offering helped by sharing spray deodorants from the dollar tree nearby.
>>10976635>>10976639dry shower products exist. wet wipes exist. umbrellas, fans, misters... you were right next to your car. and in a mall. with in and out privileges even. all of these things are used frugally at jpop idol events and japanese people don't even have as much of a problem with sweat stink.>some otaku offering helpuh ya that should be a hint for you to come prepared next time.
>>10976639just admit you have bad hygiene holy shit come prepared if ur gonna be outside all day. you're only saying this bullshit bc ur anon u r literally admitting you smelled like shit
>>10976639tf is smelltok? YOU sound sheltered like you have no social skills and real life experience. also asian people can smell like shit. so yet again you have no real life experience with real people it seems weeaboo moid.
mai urania saw your hate posts and decided to quit idol.
>>10976645111111 INSANE
>>10976665youre welcome
>>10976629saw her supposed boyfriend over the weekend at Plum Valley and it looks like he's going through it. i wonder if he's suffering the same abuse. poor kid
>>10976696I noticed he stopped showing up at events. I just assumed that his gf wouldn’t let him go cuz she seems to be emotionally manipulative like in her Reinabe days
>>10976629i think it's disingenuous to criticize her for behaving exactly as she openly advertises. anyone can see the very large warning label, and thinking it doesn't apply to you is just self centered. >>10976696the amount of boyfriends at plum valley really makes the kaigai community seem perfunctory. >>10976698is that not a normal expectation?
>>10976392Sure, because thats how its ran in Japan right?
i find it funny when idols lesbait on twitter but have their boyfriends working at these idol events.
>>10976732happy lesbo day to those foids
holmats idolfest line up is out. a few cosplay larpers but that aside pretty good line up
>>10976732it's unprofessional. there's never any creeps there to necessitate intervention either, so it just gives off a pathetic vibe of insecurity as well. i don't see how you can watch the maids doing their own sales with a line out the door and not understand the dynamic.
it’s so evident that it’s just idols posting about each other on this board. Awa lineup drops and everyone is pissed and the conversation blows up here because there is not an ounce of talent in those shows along with awful people. Holiday Matsuri lineup drops and it’s silent here due to that line up actually being solid and having good performers aside for the cosplay groups.
>>10976739oh i posted abt awa first and im not an idol :3
>>10976739Self report
>>10976736If they need another staff member to help with sales or management, why not use their boyfriend? Men are made for labor.
>>10976734It seems like a really unsurprising lineup though? Rinrinbunny nocturna etc. I'm excited for finalself but just eternity personally.
>>10976744i mean it is mainly floridas most active kaigai acts recently and i think they're all great so i mean i wasn't shocked entirely but its still good
lot of these holmat acts are mediocre at best bffr
>>10976746maybe just guilty pulse and hajimari start
>>10976748and those two at least seem to cosplay from relevant series so I can't realy fault them. it's an anime convention guys, there's gonna be cosplay regardless because anime conventions are about fandom and anime. If you don't want to see cosplayers lip syncing and dancing, then to go a real music festival or underground live show. I obviously am more of a real idol fan, not cosplay fan, but let's be realistic. this is a preetty good balance this year of real idols vs cosplayers. looking forward to nonsweet showing people how it's done.
>>10976757i just think they're talentless so im just gonna be on my phone shrugs. will be paying attention when real performers are on stage especially non sweet
>>10976732Which idol/twitter post led to this reply?
>>10976629Yall think Nene’s involved in Envee leaving Yu&Me?
>They invited more DJs How much are we willing to be Peoni is going to have wotagay at her stage
>>10976820You’re back and still haven’t changed your reaction image? Kill yourself.
>>10976821okay ashes, im sorry that you were fired LMAO
ill bring it up since no one else is brining it up.Someone who is friends with a lot of the idols(and has worked for them) is getting accused of not only cheating on her x girlfriend but is also verbally abusing, manipulating, and gaslighting their partner
>>10976834just say toby bro we all have twitter
Americans can’t handle idol otaku life. They’re too entitled about getting responses from the idols and being praised for being TO. I guess being an otaku is about being known as the #1 fan and not about hyping your idol.
>>10976836You don't know much japanese if you think this doesn't also happen in japan. Where do you think TO even comes from?
What are chichi's pronouns?During Otakon's buppan Toby had a poll at the merch table and would ask people "is he a dog or a cat?" I asked 'who is he?" And she pointed ar Chichi. I didn't think any of it but then I noticed that chichi doesn't have any pronouns in their profile.
>>10976841it is? ‘any pronouns’ is in the location where everyone puts it. go cry about it if it bothers you.
>>10976848I'm just wondering if Toby is manipulating her and her fans into thinking she's something that she isnt.Wouldn't be the first time something like this happens
>>10976834This sounds a lot like Nene. I’ve definitely seen her holding hands with other men in public, so unless she and her boyfriend have agreed to an open relationship, I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s cheating on him and mistreating him as well.
>kagai thread loves drama>ignores the drama when its their friend's dramayeah lets not talk about Toby, lets talk more shit about ashes
anyone planning on going to the trick vs treat live in orlando this weekend?
>>10976869me
>>10976864Its funny because this isnt new news. You people are just clueless. Tony probably did some not so nice things but twitter is great at making one person look like a monster when there truth is somewhere in the middle. Same shit happened with Sinder the vtuber
>>10976882he fucking killed people man
Alright who is Tony and what did he do
>>10976850who is Toby? that isn't an idol person i've heard of before.>>10976864is they going to have IRL performances? we already have enough vtumors performing through screens. hoping they'll be interesting enough like Densetsu doing some IRL stuff.
>>10976908gabagool
Anybody go to Animarketplace this weekend? How were the performances?
It’s honestly ridiculous how Dreamland shills are infiltrating the US Idolfes staff and trying to pull strings to get their lame ass group in, even though they’ve already been rejected. Wouldn’t be surprised if Nene is behind it, trying to manipulate her way in yet again just how she manipulates her useless boyfriend.
>>10977014nobody actually wants to run events for free. it's not a matter of infiltration they just show up. and setup and know what they're doing and everyone else appreciates it. their past history or personal lives are not a factor.
>>10976413>>10976418>>10976421>>10976433The worst thing with Bailey’s continued involvement in the community is that it poses a liability to other established acts, especially since we haven't seen her fully acknowledge and atone for the damage she caused. For example, sharing a stage with Bailey could sully Aonyan’s professional reputation and brand. It also feels deeply disrespectful to Aonyan, as it suggests that someone can engage in severe bullying and deliver extremely awful performances yet still receive the same recognition and opportunities. Likewise, acts like Berry, who have already experienced harassment before, are in danger of being exposed to another unsafe environment by having to share that space with Bailey too. I don't know what strings Bailey is pulling behind the scenes, nor do I know who is organizing SIF this year, but whoever is should know that making a move like this is not wise and it places everyone's sanity at risk.
>>10977016idol neon/moshi moshi mousse
>>10977015Not to mention, they’ve been caught being ableist and fatphobic in the past as well. But who cares, right?
>>10977018dont pretend like u actually gaf abt those issues while this entire thread is just that lmfao
thoughts on usif schedule?
>>10977025solemn posted in the idolfest questions channel about 3 hours ago. This post was made about 3 hours ago. ashes dick riders aren't slick at all!
>>10977017is neon even doing anything successful now that seekers is disbanded
>>10977018i think fat phobia is healthy and should be celebrated since obesity is a curable illness that kills.
Nocturna uses AI. Why would Instagram flag something as AI falsely? I did not expect them to be this retarded.
Any graphic that includes an image with a transparent background (especially those made on Canva), have been automatically flagged as AI by meta, even when it’s not. I work in a corporate marketing setting and even I have been frustrated getting my content marked as AI when I used photoshop to cut the image out of the background. I definitely don’t think they used AI. Look at threads on Reddit from a bunch of frustrated marketing/SM managers in regards to this and you’ll see Nocturna isn’t the only one that got falsely flagged, lol.
>>10977048i think you're retarded not a single thing they have posted looks ai?? you do realize its an auto flag some of my posts have been marked as ai even though they are not.
>>10977048i would expect no less from a group that causes property damage for views.
>>10977052ur fatass is still on this?
>>10977048They are also verified on X, which means they are funding Musk/Grok. Whatever they might say about being anti-AI is bullshit.They do run Mikan Live, in case you're like "well Nocturna doesn't have that label!" But I do not believe they're using AI for their posts.
>>10977052What happened?
>>10977055anyone with half a brain can see how long and wordy the tweets on mikan are. if i had to guess they are paying for character limit>>10977056the vlog from holmat one of them tried to wedge themself in between two pillars and at most left behind a footprint, legit someone has knickers in a twist over nothing.
>>10977055underthis assumption anyone paying for canva pro also supports AI because that app also loves ai? lets go ahread and start listing other idols who obviously use apps that feature AI as well as anyone else with a verification.
>>10977058Canva also isn't run by Elon Musk. And it's not a social media platform being run specifically to spread right-wing propaganda.
>>10977059YOURE ON 4CHAN LIBTARD
Dawg even BlueSky sold out to AI this convo is what’s retarded. If you had such a problem get of X. The ad revenue from your free account doom scrolling is also funding Papa Musk.
you're all fucking retarded acting fake woke while using 4chan plzzzzz kill yourselves
>>109770604chan is owned by hiroshima nagasaki. and he's a fairly innocuous persona with popular takes and non controversial opinions.
Sorry, I didn't realize it would trigger everyone to say I find it weird to directly pay money to a platform so closely associated with certain themes while using free websites.
>>10977064do you keep this same energy with everyone else who is verified or do u just feel like this was a good "gotcha" moment? cause it really wasn't
>>109770634chan is used by the most alt right people imaginable retard
>>10977018it's soooo funny people come here trying to act holier than thou when they're being creepy on an alt right website
>>10977066so is your mom's cunt. this is just a free speech forum, and conservative idiots do not have ownership of free speech.
>>10977014I’ve heard that she frequently communicates with her fans outside of work and does favors for them, which seems unprofessional. It makes me wonder whether she’s blurring personal and professional boundaries or using her relationships with fans to get what she wants. Given that her cuck boyfriend was a fan of hers before they got together, the whole situation raises questions about how she handles relationships with her fanbase. I am almost certain I've seen her seduce her fans just to get her way.
>>10977077i feel like that type of behavior is expected from typical maids in japan and there's nothing wrong if that's what people want
>>10977077touch grass
>>10977048Anything put into Canva regardless of whatever features they use gets automatically flagged as AI. Same for some components of Photoshop or other image editors. Think before you speak.
Not ass bad as latte's boyfriend who would stare you the fuck down when talking to her during cheki. Guessing more people noticed since he hasn't been working it.
People also need to educate themselves with AI. It's sadly going to be used for a lot of things but its GENERATIVE AI that is the issue. Educate yourself before trying to look woke and stupid.
Ashes with one of her retarded hot takesthis one is about lightsum's song not being jpop
>>10977098this is hilarious. it's j-pop because it's a pop song in japanese. j-pop just means, japanese pop. also, it's released in japan, to a japanese market, and japanese people like it! they see it as koreans singing japanese pop. the kaigai idol community is so weird towards k-pop. either they do dumb stuff like include k-pop songs in idol fests or they try to act like music industry experts on the differences between jpop and kpop and be weird japanese purists about it or something (despite pushing the idea that japanese idol industry is more diverse than the globally focused internationally marketed k-pop industry)
>>10977098my thing is lightsum literally did announce a meet event like im really annoyed at this discourse :/ can't we just be happy lightsum r finally getting paid and support them I don't get why this is discourse i blame the retarded cutie street fans
>>10977100>>10977098you guys are actually morons. if i made a mariachi version of not like us dressed up like a mexican kendrick lamar with a unintelligible mexican accent singing in spanish on mexican tv no one would call that american.
>>10977106kill yourself
>>10977077Vendetta much? Mad it wasn’t you?
there's nothing worse for jpop's growth outside japan than for kpop low iq obese lolcows and gooner trannys trying to attach onto it.
>>10977112kaigai community already filled with gooner trannys ion know what you tried to accomplish with this we just have fat lards here
>>10977113kaigai literally recruits at anime conventions and somehow has a lower gooner tranny turnout than the general population of america. anyone who has seen a kpop event cannot be gaslit into believing your delusion.
>>10977114i go to nugu kpop events and its mostly white girls so idk where you are getting these numbers from
>>10977116We can't all live in Florida
>>10976381I’m done with USIF after this year. I’m tired of whoever is in change pushing this random DJ and not the idols. You know, the idol in US “IDOL” FEST?! I go to this con for the idols. If I wanted to see DJs, I’d go to any anime con happening every weekend. It’s sad seeing USIF turning into another anime con. They lost the plot.
>>10977122is there somethg wrong with dj koo showing up to tokyo idol festival? if you have a problem it's probably because you've never seen a dj at an idol festival.
>>10977122stfu Ashes we know it's you. You opened up the window by inviting vtubers and wotagay
>>10977048I'm pretty sure the majority of Nocturna hate lately has been Guilty Pulse after Roadkill fought with Mikan. This flavor of discourse is particularly funny, as Guilty Pulse seems to be using AI for their promotional art. The Twisted Wonderland one is really bad, but most of their chibis are suspicious. As expected of obese cosidol has-beens.
>>10977129this is like common knowledge that they're the main perpetrators of fl idol hate on here no one really likes them for a reason
>>10977111why are you protecting someone who's destroyed people's lives? nene is an abuser
>>10977129According to their Instagram post, their chibi art was drawn by luiilafete. If AI was used, it would be the fault of the artist and not the group. The Twisted Wonderland photos have very basic editing and were photographed by Amanda Swanson Photography. I assume if any AI was used, all of the editing would be done without their knowledge. With all that said, I see nothing that would indicate AI is being used. A quick look at their posts is all you need to see that. I have never heard anything negative about Guilty Pulse except for that one instance with Roadkill. Suki, who is the voice of Mikan, handled that situation very poorly and caused the situation to escalate.
>>10977138Holy self post. No one give enough of a fuck about you obese tubs of lard to deep dive into all of your shit or defend you here. Take it elsewhere as coslarpers aren’t welcomed. It’s clear as day every one of you in Guilty Repulsed are on these boards since you publicly refer back.
>>10977139Not Guilty Pulse but someone who doesn't agree with discrediting a group and making up stuff just because you don't like them. You have a personal vendetta against them, that is very obvious, because how do you have that much hate for some cosplayers? In a convention space where that is the norm? Most idols started as coslarpers. It is how the community started and slowly grew to become what it is today.
>>10977140This person is pretty clearly either Nocturna or a friend of theirs kek it's not worth defending yourself against people with pre-determined vendettas
>>10977139By the way, Guilty Pulse's bigger members look like the same size as Nocturna's
>>10977142i dislike both groups but that is just wrong the fat one from GP is so much bigger than NOCTURNAs fat one SUKI is chunky but shes pretty and has giant tits
can you florida retards shut up already and talk about something useful instead
>>10977143yeah but which one is actually good at dancing and performing? answer: neither
>>10977134It’s worth considering that everything she supposedly did to get canceled happened years ago, and she may have grown and changed since then. She could be in a happy and healthy relationship now, so I’m not sure why people still can't see that her boyfriend could just leave if she's so terrible, especially since he had the opportunity to be with that idol from asayoru but ultimately chose Nene. As far as I can tell, they are still together, so please, stop slandering her.
>>10977134those people are fiiiiine, but you're probably one of original fabricators in the situation so who the fuck cares
>>10977144It's Florida, we're all salty and miserable
>>10977149You’re fked in the head if u think that coconut head had an opportunity with anyone in AsayoruEveryone parasocial asf here yall dont know anything about these idols and making up relationship rumors that are way off base Can this thread get back to actually funny things
>>10977161why is that? Florida seems like they have had an active scene over there for many years. out of all the places in the south, the only places i think of with an actual idol scene would be texas, florida, and georgia ig but it's seen better days. you guys in florida have a ton of cons especially holmat and small events outside of cons. is that why people are bitchy?
>>10977163i don’t think it’s made up desu, especially when i’ve heard it from multiple people and like it’s not that hard to believe when someone as chopped as terence is dating an idol lol
Is USIF cooked after this year or is everyone going to flock to it like a pilgrimage that people complain about but go anyway like AX?
>>10977172the only people who routinely hate on ax are autists that hate crowds and waiting. alternatively ax has connections and routinely has the best guests, the best companies, and the best presentations. you cannot have good programming without massive crowds. the two things are intertwined. comparing an idol festival to that doesn't make sense, however usif doesn't have any of that. it's actually a horrendous nightmare for everyone participating. it's a money sink, it's extremely unaccommodating to the most popular acts, and it has no connections. there are also bigger events. idol escape and baif both had more attendees. there's a reason why none of the people actively trying to make idol events happen are participating in it. and it's not gonna survive without them.
>>10977168It's Florida
>>10977172its been cooked since it became usif and i think everyone knows it
>>10977143>the fat one from GPWhich one? They're all hefty.>>10977168The convention events still skew heavily towards cosidols. People are bitchy towards cosidols because of the resentment there. Cosidols were and are still favored by Next Stage, who runs the majority of major con events. Kaigai idols weren't able to have events focused on them until very recently.
Enough about California and Florida, as much as I love some idols from there, name your favorite Texas idols.
>>10977171Nene and Zoyo dating their "staff" is fucking hilarious. But I don't think any Asayoru maids are retarded enough to date guys that show up every day to stalk them at work.No wonder Envee got out, those two seem unbearable.
>>10977203only paida is relevant
>>10976381>SilvagunnerUnfunny Reddit memefarmkill yourself
>>10976629What's up with zoomers and treating accusations so seriously? What are you afraid of? Have some agency.>>10977066so is YouTube>>10976632
>>10976423>see this should be everyone's final wakeup call that this community is just a hobby friendship circle and not about art or talent.After reading this thread it's easy to see why that happened. It's inevitable that a bunch of oversensitive freaks will soon lose the plot and focus on themselves instead of their craft.
So anything of interest at USIF
