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    >Animaga - did you enjoy the idols?
    >A-MUSE announced as guests at Animayhem Brisbane
    >Upcoming lives: Neonism and Patopi bar concept, Azusa grad, SeiPro two-man, Himizu one-man. Which one are you looking forward to?
    >What idols have you been listening to recently?
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    >>10969197
    Animaga was pretty solid. There were some audio issues, but that didn’t really feel like the idols fault.

    I keep forgetting Amuse is still around. I think they’ve been doing some K-pop stuff lately? I haven’t really kept up.

    Not totally sure what’s going on with the 4qnq lives. It sounds like a mix of offkai and live shows? Could be interesting though.

    Azusa graduating kind of hits. It’s sad to see them go, but I’ve actually been liking the Sunny and Coda duo more than I expected. Curious if Faeble will do more auditions.

    Himizu hasn’t really clicked for me so far. I still like Kim more in Reveil. The group feels a bit too similar to others, and bringing back an old Ctrp song felt like baiting the pit.

    For music, I’ve been listening to Lace’s single a bit, it’s pretty good. Love Chord’s is nice too, even if the mixing could’ve been better. Neonism coming back has been great, I’ve missed their original songs. Would be cool if they re-recorded stuff with the new lineup.
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    Why is it always j-idol stuff, and never k-idol?

    Honest question, not trying to be mean, but are you guys into the frilly dresses and kawaii songs? I always thought k-pop idols seemed far more interesting.

    I’m just trying to understand the appeal. Korean culture seems far more modern and up to date with current consumer expectations.

    I don’t want to be a dick, but all these people seemed to be into a uniquely ugly aesthetic which I’m only reminded of when my weeb friends suggest going to a show or going to smash. It’s not just idol performances, but also the promotional material, and things outside of their work like cosplay, videos, and even games they develop. It all has this uniquely ugly lolita/kawaii aesthetic which I thought died out 2 decades ago, yet it’s still here.

    Why can’t there be a k-idol scene where people have nice bodies, wear waist-high shorts, and perform songs with a beat that slaps with good vocals? It’s always this weird outdated 2006 deviantart vibe.

    See picrel for that weird deviantart aesthetic vs more popular korean aesthetic.
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    >>10969237
    Nice ragebait very entertaining desu
    Take your nonsense to the actual kpop thread unnie
    I'll see you there
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    >>10969237
    It'd be much easier to larp as a K-idol.
    > Shave jawbone
    > Don't bother learning to sing, you don't need it
    > Shein haul
    > Dance to AI noise track

    Retarded take if genuine.
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    >>10969240
    >Doesn’t have an actual argument, labels it as ragebait and continues to make an ugly outfit with large belts and baggy pants

    >>10969245
    I naturally have a k-idol jawline, and even AI slop sounds better than the backing tracks for j-pop.

    Also I don’t actually know what shein is. I’ve never been poor enough to actually look it up.
    >>
    Let's just not interact with the kpop weirdo

    >>10969208
    Big agree with a lot of this.

    Feel like Sunny is a bit cursed with new gens at this point. Hopefully Sunny/Coda gen can maintain and exceed Faeble2 quality.

    Reveil Kim > Himizu Kim. I hope they can balance the workloads but Kim been pushing Himizu.

    Do we think Smash stage gunna be better than Animaga? Someone gotta fix those audio bugs that where everywhere.
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    >>10969262
    >Feel like Sunny is a bit cursed with new gens at this point. Hopefully Sunny/Coda gen can maintain and exceed Faeble2 quality.

    For real, poor Sunny lmao. I feel like they will struggle for a bit as two but they have been pushing a new sound that I like more than what Gen 3 debuted with.

    >Reveil Kim > Himizu Kim. I hope they can balance the workloads but Kim been pushing Himizu.
    I have a feeling she's leaving. I don't see why Reveil would hold auditions otherwise.
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    >>10969197
    I only went Sunday. I wonder how they choose who gets their own set and who is in the Showcase?
    The only set that was genuinely bad was Zero. She travelled interstate for that…
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    >>10969237
    Plastic surgery is too expensive down under, can't go full K without the look ya know?
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    Did this thread disappear for a bit? Anyone have a link to the previous one
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    >>10969306
    Warosu.. and sage your shit.

    >>10969273
    Hard agree on Zero. That Aisola was hard to watch.
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    >>10969268
    Damn, but you right though. Himizu going hard on dedicated merch. I'd have prefers them be a once every so often group, always kinda cool to see idols go outside their group...

    But means we're gunna get less Juju solo (which bangs) and possibly no Reveil Kim? Worst trade deal

    Hopefully they can change my opinion with their live.
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    Anyone got the context on Martin's latest tweet?

    "In light of recent experiences. I will be enforcing new rules at events, and talking to all organisers to ensure that we are doing things to the same standard as other niche communities. (E.g. J-core/Aniraves).

    Going forward, I will be rolling out zero-tolerence to any abusive, disrespectful behaviour from anyone in this scene. This applies to the performers too, inside and outside my company.

    Staff, Producers, and other fellow performers in this scene are doing it for the love of the game at this point. Most people do not get a stipend either, so it's entirely for the love of the game at this point.

    Of course context is sometimes important, but many of us, including me are doing this as volunteers, and we often don't see a single cent to our own name.

    It's affected my mental health, and I have not been able to put my best foot forward at all.

    It's disappointing, and nearly a decade into doing this stuff, I am disappointed that I have to act this way finally.

    Onto a better future!!"

    I actually agree with him here, I'm just nosey.
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    >>10969425
    I’ve seen that idol yell at Martin before, so I kinda get where he’s coming from.
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    can the nonnie from last thread expand on the contract shit.

    gathered which group it was about (cutie angels, formerly cutie angles)

    and which member leaked it (stella) but what the fuck is going on.

    so they've got all the chinese girls from a cosgroup and hina is running this with her boyfriend and plans to hold any money made and made all the girls sign contracts.

    are they making money? why did only stella choose to leave? how many girls are in the group i've counted 5 so far?

    kristy, nonsweet manager and a neonism member follow them so that's how the account was suggested to me and the self-posting in the last thread obvs.

    i've never seen anything like this in the scene.
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    I want Wooly back asap! Need to see those thighs again!
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    >>10969584

    move to melbourne then because she will never perform in sydney again
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    >>10969584
    I wanted to keep supporting her but the more I watched her streams I realised she’s kind of a cunt xD
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    >>10969584
    I’ve stopped supporting her. It’s ridiculous.
    Are they still together?
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    >>10969595
    Yeah Melbourne is not an option for me
    >>10969663
    Oh I know she is kind of a cunt hahah but that's (for me) a bit of a charm point when I watch it happen to others
    >>10969671
    I am not "supporting" her I just want to see her thighs
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    >>10969671
    he was seen in melbourne so seems they still are
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    What does everyone think of the current state of Idols/Groups in Syd?

    Feels empty but active at the same time.
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    >>10969273
    Sunday is for the less popular acts or if they already had a set already on Saturday. So if you see them only once and it's on Sunday IE not in a group or solo, it's a pity slot
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    >>10969699
    I think the community has a bit of a sameness issue. Lots of groups have a similar vibe and they the ones getting shows. No showings at recent shows for some of the more alt sounding community makes it all sound samey
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    >>10969883
    And who do you consider “alt” in the community?
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    >>10969268
    Called it
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    Marmalade's story for her vlog is kinda goonbaity top image with her skirt hiked up like that, are they really that low on viewership?
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    >>10970026
    what in the incel
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    >>10969237
    The honest answer is that a few girls have tried, and the regular crowd doesn't enjoy it as much. Though, a bunch of jpop idols also have kpop crews. Members of (classic) Neonism, and also Etude, and maybe a few others I think still do perform in kpop meets.
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    >>10969425
    >>10969455
    what even was the context for that
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    >>10969699
    who is this he? I thought Wooly was asexual (it was in her insta bio)
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    >>10970133
    A man of many talents, the most prominent one being, pissing off all the idols all at once and even alot of the pit
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    >>10970168
    I know doxing is against the rules, but I have no idea still lol
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    >>10970182
    if you dont know already then you arent involved enough to deserve to know
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    anyone in the Brisbane community know what’s up with red radiant? that guy kinda gives me the creeps.
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    >>10970229
    Fair call lol
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    No point now that azu is gone
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    >>10970261
    I don't always see him in a lot of idol events, doesn't look creepy to me.
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    >>10969237
    Because the intenational kpop community doesn't have a k-idol scene. It has a K-Dance Crew scene, where participants focus on accurately covering dance choreo without vocals. Which is cool on its own, but it's not really an idol scene that builds fans beyond supportive comments on youtube/insta posts. Even for the crews that do live shows, I haven't seen much audience interaction.
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    >>10970427
    That makes sense. Japanese stuff tends to have more of a dedicated audience. Everyone recognises popular characters from recent anime and manga, but a general audience won’t recognise any manhwa characters, even if the manhwa is widely read. Korean comics feel very ephemeral. I’ve read many, but hardly remember them at all. Meanwhile, I’ve never read Jujutsu Kaisen or Chainsaw Man, but I would recognise the characters anywhere. Even with gaming, Nier: Automata made much more of a cultural impact than Stellar Blade. Maybe for this reason you guys prefer j-idols, although I personally can’t get into j-idol music
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    Personally I like both korean and japanese music in multiple genres, and both k-idols and j-idols and both countries have a pretty vibrant music scene. K-pop does actively promote itself internationally a lot more than the jpop industry. And because of that work kpop has grown a big fanbase overseas. But for whatever reason that fandom participation has focused almost entirely on recreating the choreo instead of the vocals from their favorites.
    And it's not to say that jpop isn't without its share of generic slop. There are dozens and dozens of mid generic fluffy costume, simple bubbly love song j-idol groups out there that are invisible to the international audience.
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    Did anyone go to Animayhem? How was Paida?
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    It was fun but I didn't know half of her songs.
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    How is Himawari both in Japan and the Philipines at the same time
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    any thoughts of the supanova syd idols? if any????
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    thoughts on kristy's release?
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    does anyone know who the fuck “ariesfaries” is? shes a vtuber guest at SMASH and claims to be an aus idol irl, also seems to be into wotagei
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    >>10973537
    I'll never understand vtubers. Twitch is understandable because its like playing games with your waifu.

    Anyone going to smash! tomorrow in Sydney? I am too lazy to cosplay and am just going to enjoy the idol performances. I'll check the stores, hopefully they have the large manga store. Animaga stores were really bad. People selling print outs and other garbage.
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    >>10973560
    I got there late. Only saw a couple idols, both Japanese. I can't remember the ladies mame but she sang the evangelion op. I thpught there would be a huge manga store but it was only a small display of mangas i didn't want. I wanted to look at the berserk deluxe editions irl to see how much i really want them.

    Highlight was finally finding the itasha display. They were on the roof. They look so cool.
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    >>10973537
    Her voice sounds pretty familiar, but I can't quite put my finger on who it is. My best guess would be someone that performed in one of those groups that do LL covers only or something that appear like once a year. Based on the unboxing video, you can infer she is on the larger side, and since she gets out of breath from simply cutting sticky-tape, not fit enough to perform regularly.

    Hope that helps to narrow it down.
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    We’ll never get any hot azu pics ever again, will we?
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    >>10974321
    New fan here
    who is Azu?
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    >>10974661
    azusa. former sydney idol, used to be in citrus plus and then faeble
    used to post gym pics and stuff so a lot of gooners hang out in the aus idol threads to talk about her

    speaking of which, this thread is so dead. is there another thread ive somehow missed or does someone need to make a new one?
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    >>10974712
    Ahh I see I see

    I think this thread is just mega dead with nothing happening recently, at least to my knowledge.

    I'm a melb based fan who likes melb based idols and there's not much happening over here
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    not really a lot going on lately in syd idol scene…
    neonism is back but thats old news atp.

    in new news i’ve seen this new idol called finny popping up on insta recently because she’s been following everyone thats into sydney idols. don’t think i’ve seen her attend shows irl tho. seems to have a background in music production and wants to perform irl so im keeping my eye on that

    is anyone going to lili’s live this weekend? im excited to see ria again
    >>
    Thread is probably quiet because personal attacks are being rerouted to other channels, with much more serious consequences.

    I'm quite certain that heads will continue to roll. Some of this is maybe deserved to a certain degree, but idk, I don't know enough of the background of most of this and I have significant doubts.

    Feels like all I can do at this point is pray that me and the remaining people I care about will make it through in the end. Key perpetrators are among these people, so it's a difficult and stressful situation.
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    >>10974717
    Yeah I've seen Finny pop up as well. Interested in seeing how they progress, they seem to be targeting Eurobeat stuff as well, maybe they've seen Sunny or something at a show once. Tho, Euro is still popular.
    >>10974721
    What's going on?
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    >>10974733
    Not sure if it's what >>10974721 is talking about but someone did recently tweet alluding to power abuse by a manager in the community.
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    >>10974737
    i think whoever made that post probably has insider info. a lot of the stuff that has happened has been in private. a few people got banned from certain events for things they’ve done and im not commenting on if specific cases were deserved or not but they seem to be really buckling down on it

    >>10974733
    she seems cool, she seems to mainly site stuff like touhou eurobeat and initial-d for her eurobeat inspo (judging by posts + music she uses on her stories) so idk if she even knows about sunny. idk tho sunny seems to be getting way more popular lately
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    >>10974737
    >Not sure if it's what >>10974721 is talking about but someone did recently tweet alluding to power abuse by a manager in the community.
    There aren't a lot of managers in the community so it could only really allude to one or two.
    >>10974749
    Touhou euro is goated and under-appreciated, initial D is over-represented thoguh I think
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    >>10974321
    You may still catch her if you ever hitup a Sydney sex expo show. Now that she's doing game dev it's much less chance of spicy posts
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    >>10974721
    hi martin
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    >>10974831
    Sauce?
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    im getting rlly sick if melb idols being snubbed for slots at our own conventions?? either we dont get a slot or they shove us all in showcase while sydney idols get multiple sets…
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    >>10975019
    unfortunately a lot of sydney idols seem to have better connections which is probably why. i do agree that it sucks, i feel like they should be prioritising local acts instead.
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    >>10975019
    Yeah neonism has two days and one of their members has a solo?
    I don't even think they're that much better than Melbourne groups... do they have fan in Melbourne?
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    >>10975019
    How ironic it is that it always happens in a Melbourne convention, I guess no one wants to go to Adelaide, Brisbane or Perth
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    >>10975019
    Why is it specifically important to be performing at a convention?

    Hanagasumi, Futago and Undead Online all have 1mans coming up in the space of a month, why not offer to open for one of those if you want to perform more? Busking is also an option if you want to get new people in or don't want to arrange a venue, but I don't think anyone has tried this.

    I'm not denying your point, I'm just trying to understand where this sentiment is coming from. You must understand that Sydney idols have at least partially earned a spot through longer tenure and more activity on their resumes, what factor is it that balances against this for you guys?
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    >>10975019
    I travel a lot and have seen my fair share of both Sydney and Melbourne idols. Your local acts aren’t putting in even half the work of Sydney idols if we’re being honest. There’s a huge skill gap and nobody in Melbourne seems to want to put in the time to host regular lives so they can improve. You definitely can’t just expect a slot at cons when theres nothing on your resume. SMASH and Animaga are not entry level anymore.
    Melbourne has a few standout performers, but they’re definitely not the ones coming here to complain.
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    >>10975019
    I forgot to mention in >>10975046
    that there are two Melbourne idols with multiple slots - Fungi (Undead Online) and Wooly (Futago). So the implication that only Sydney acts get multiple slots is maybe a bit exaggerated, at least for Animaga this year
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    >>10975047
    lol hi martin, keep pushing ur agenda bro wwwww
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    >>10975046
    hi martin 2, keep pushing ur agenda as well wwww
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    There are other avenues for your local groups if you feel like you are getting shafted. Have you tried running a group panel or contacting the organisers to book a panel room just for melbs idols to perform all day? I'm sure if every group put in like $100 each, you could probably book a venue and make up the rest with cheki sales and tickets. Don't rely on just conventions to be able to perform, especially if you want to seriously pursue idol as a hobby/job.
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    >>10975050
    Who's martin? Was he the creepy glasses guy at SMASH at the stage?
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    >>10975060
    martin is the guy who runs the SMASH stage and also he owns 4QNQ and does the sound at all their shows. idk about his character i’ve never actually talked to him but i've not heard the greatest things about him from here at least. he’s a shit sound guy tho i’ve never been to a gig with worse sound and more hiccups than a 4qnq idol show
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    >>10975062
    also animaga idol and some supanova idol stages I believe

    dont quote me on that
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    >>10975077
    ye those too. honestly he does sound at most events with idols at them. it’d be nice to see more diversity in that regard desu
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    >>10975084
    most melbourne idol events i go to that arent hosted by 4qnq have the best mixing #noticing wwwwww

    on another note why are so many idols dropping out of animaga performance stage lol first a soloist and now the whole of darlingdreammi is boycotting
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    >>10975086
    someone who was set to perform there made a long post about being mistreated by staff. i can’t find it anymore because it was like an instagram story but they seemed to have some receipts for it i think
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    >>10975087
    That someone is a stage coordinator at ozcc, who openly brags about it too.

    This whole thread came back to life after they made that post so it seems suspicious.

    They have a history of stirring the pot and making wild claims about people so I wouldn't really trust whatever they write. They recently attacked another idol at an event they hosted as well.

    They also according to themselves in that post you mentioned, got their slot cancelled for harrassment accusations.
    Strange how little literacy anons have these days. They didnt even post any proof or anything concrete as evidence.

    Clearly crashed out at losing a slot over breaking some rules.

    Its all clearly a smear campaign against a competitor. A great idea with zero legal consequences LMFAO.

    Cant they can just give themselves a performance slot at their own convention they work for and be happy there?
    Just like how they gave themselves an idol panel in Brisbane.

    Last week I only saw Wooly, in Canberra, and the stage was packed, so I don't understand why the rest of you guys didn't perform there? Afaik anyone could have applied right? Then so why did nobody go there?

    4qnq doesnt even run events in Melbourne regularly, like once a year at most.

    I have a feeling when the truth comes out its going to be a day of reckoning for the Melbourne idol comm sadly...

    Well it was a good run.

    We want to complain and not get better. Its all we've been good at desu. Its time we look at ourselves first, because we get mogged by Sydney and Brisbane all the time even objectively...
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    >>10975088
    This whole scene should just die and pray to azusa

    That is the true reckoning
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    >>10975088
    ok martin
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    >>10975084
    Just run an event yourself desu
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    >>10975086
    >#noticing
    go back to tumblr lmao

    >first a soloist
    imagine getting dropped due to harrassing people and then making a public statement saying you're boycotting the event absolute fatherless behavior desu get a grip on reality face the consequences of your actions and stop with the self-victimization
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    >>10975088
    this is such a martin post lol. saying that someone else is throwing shade on a competitor while you, the competitor, talk shit about them on 4chan is hypocrite ass behaviour
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    Cry a river Martin. Stop projecting everything you do onto everyone else you hypocrite
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    why is there so much in fighting in the idol scene. aus music scene in general doesn’t have that problem…

    i would like it if we could one day be treated as a genuine part of the music scene but idk if that would be possible with all the toxicity and drama that goes around.

    i wish everyone would see each other as equals with something each to offer instead of seeing everyone else as “competition”
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    >>10975104
    I think there's a low tolerance for wrongdoing that comes from cosplay culture, we were discussing this on the main kaigai idol thread recently. The more combative aspects of representation and gender equality tend to leak into other spheres, you can't expect people to turn this energy on and off like a lightswitch.

    Another possible difference between us and the general music scene is a tension between an "everyone supports everyone" culture and the small pool of events that idols seem to clamor over, which necessarily concentrates both power and attention onto hosts. Most if not all of the posts claiming to identify Martin on 4chan aren't correct, but it's hard to blame people when he has such a history of publically fighting with people, based on his twitter alone if nothing else.

    Above all though, be careful of romanticising something that doesn't exist. Remember that 4chan is basically intended for negative discussion, go look at every other board and thread. People are pretty normal in person
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    >>10975104
    ok martin
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    >>10969461
    I’m back.

    They’re only regularly performing in a university campus hangout spot so the audience are befuddled normies and the anime club, and their online presence is nowhere near where it needs to be to rake in cash, so the answer is very likely no. I reckon that an indicator that they made decent profit would be uniform upgrades/changes considering they wear the exact same thing each performance.

    Do those girls look like they’re out in the workforce lol. There’s a new one that hasn’t had the same promo as the other girls feelsbadman.
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    oz comic con sydney is happening in a couple weeks, are there any idols you guys are hoping to see there?
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    I saw some AI slop show is looking for idols on instagram that somehow managed to get some pretty high-profile voice actresses onboard. I hope no group seriously considers tanking their reputation by performing there.
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    Well 4qnq won't be at that event, that's all I can say. Idols won't even be the main focus of that event it seems like.
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    >>10974321
    It's your lucky day
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    >>10975331
    Which AI slop show?
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    >>10975401
    they’re talking about neo tokyo (neotokyopavilion on insta) they’ve basically used exclusively AI art to promote their event.

    they also used ever angel in their advertising so im kinda worried about them being associated with it :(
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    >>10975104
    The music scene is not really comparable because that is made of bands and producers making new music with the intent to get paid sometime. The focus is on the music itself or the aesthetic presentation of said music but not so much on personality except in extreme cases.

    Idols on the other hand are primarily personality and identity driven. Your brand and face as an idol is as important as the music you perform. Maybe even more important, since most idols are covering the same stable of songs instead of producing new works. It's an environment of girls living out their dreams to "shine bright" on stage instead of some songwriter trying to make a heartfelt statement about themselves or their lives. Because the idol scene is so heavy on personality there is a lot of ego investment and because the participants skew younger you end up with a lot of schoolyard tier acts of gossip and rumormongering by the same people espousing a rainbows and ponies community culture in public.

    It's not like the music scene doesn't have bands with infighting and implosions and break ups but that's all intra-group conflict instead of inter-group conflict.
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    >>10975304
    going both days, i’m pretty excited to see himawari again, and sunny too

    i’m also pretty keen on finny. she seems somewhat legit and it’s good to see new faces
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    the obvious self advertisement is so sad
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    >>10975469
    Right as if anyone is holding out to watch another Sunny clone
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    >>10975402
    Ever Angel confirmed for performing for it.
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    >>10975469
    Being interested in an idol = self advertising?????
    People aren’t allowed to have fans anymore
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    >>10975507
    Did we strike a nerve there Finny?
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    >>10975491
    To be fair, they said they were looking for an idol performer so it's pretty much confirmed anyway.

    Also, it seems like they addressed the AI content in their promotional materials.
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    >>10975512

    the event organiser is ever angel's producer anyway so that was obvious from day 1
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    >>10975507
    ok finny
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    >>10975514
    It’s not even the same writing style between posts LMAO you guys are so pathetic
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    >>10975517
    Bc typing different is so hard lmao
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    >>10975507
    get real. why would finny garner any interest before any performances? her socials also look so bare, so not like there is anything there that will catch interest. how would there already be fans.

    it's pretty blatantly self-promo, and I'm glad someone called it out.
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    >>10975534
    she’s been a vtuber since like 2023 she has 2K followers on her other socials. i think her instagram was only made recently
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    >>10975535
    referring to yourself in 3rd person is funny.
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    Down bad for an idol I’m too scared to talk to, do I just kill myself?
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    >>10975539
    you should talk to her during cheki or something but don’t be a creep just be nice. good luck
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    >>10975512
    >>10975513
    looks like theyre still using AI on the main website/account for the show itself
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    >>10975539
    Yes
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    >>10975539
    They wont be allowed to date you openly or in secret anyway. You're killing your chances by actually going to shows instead of just hoping to meet them randomly outside. The community can and will ostracise you, and a few people have already been banned for trying. There are rare exceptions of people being successful despite being fans, but usually they knew each other beforehand, or after they disbanded or something.
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    >>10975539
    I was like this too, but once you try and get to talk to her, the confidence builds up from there.
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    >>10975539
    if she knows you as a fan, you have no chances
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    >>10975539
    you should talk to her but don’t try to start a relationship off the bat otherwise you’ll be perceived as creepy. be an active member of her community and if its meant to be let her initiate it’ll come with time, if not dont be disappointed because many idols are already in relationships and you can’t force someone to like you
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    Thank you all. I almost spoke to her but chickened out. I'll be killing myself.
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    >>10975770
    why would you post this like right after a show now they probably know who you are lmao
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    >>10975771
    I don't think she saw me and I don't think she would read this thread.
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    >>10975772
    You'd be surprised how many idols follow all of these threads
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    >>10975788
    Not when an outsider is a snitch, like someone who told Finny about this thread
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    >>10975790
    Lets put our thinking caps on now
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    >>10975535
    Her Twitch stats are horrendous... averaging 10 viewers or less per stream despite having 1.4k followers is genuinely impressive.

    Considering her top 5 chatters are 4 people and then herself, it shouldn't be too hard to find this 'fan' promoing her here.
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    Azu has a really long tongue, is it AI?

    Also, she seems shorter than 5'5"
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    >>10975790
    no snitch. finny is on here and denying it
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    >>10975809
    The thing I don’t understand is why someone who seems to be pretty new and doesn’t know anybody would even know about this thread? A lot of people even in the idol comm don’t know about it
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    >>10975806
    sounds like you’re a pretty big fan if you have such a hate boner that you’d go and look up her twitch stats. genuinely retarded behaviour
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    >>10975811
    finny's been around, and tried to break through before. idk why they're coming back.
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    >>10975831
    Who were they before?
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    >>10975846
    they weren’t really anyone that notable. super young person that discovered idols at smash 2023. she used to be in a really shortlived group with the girl that just left reveil a few weeks ago
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    >>10975847
    >girl that just left reveil
    Anyone know why she left?
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    >>10975848
    sera? idk but from my experience talking to her she seems to have a really busy personal life
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    >>10975808
    She is pretty short, and I saw the insta reel you mean and yeah, the filter she is using adds an extra short amount at the end (which you could see was the filter)
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    >>10975808
    azu obssessed thirstposter has never even gone to see her irl. why am I not surprised
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    >>10975879
    I know her IRL and I remember her saying she's 5'1". She also goes up to my collarbone so that makes sense
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    >>10975884
    all this time I thought azufag was a guy, turns out they're a girl this whole time
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    >>10975899
    You also sound like Azusa in the way you type, very aggressive and fragile. Either that or one of her friends, who all have the same personality>>10975884
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    >>10975879
    Why would anyone thirst over her? If you hung out with regular people that are fit, you would not be thirsting over anyone that cosplays, does idol stuff, or even works in game development. The few times I've hung out with cosplayers, and the many times I've hung out with game devs, they all had terrible diets and were extremely weak. I expect they would be diagnosed with all sorts of medical issues later in life, such as fatty liver, osteoporosis, Alzheimer's, and many others. I'm just a tourist. I'm shocked by how little you guys care about your health
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    >>10975901
    nobody asked you to post here fuck off faggot
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    >>10975906
    Sounds like it's probably just Azusa posting. Now I suspect all the "thirst posting" is just astroturfing.

    Even if you're not her, you're someone in the community, which means you have a terrible diet that makes you easily agitated.
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    >>10975217
    new one doesnt fit in
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    >>10975900
    >The absolute deflection and assblasting
    Lmao
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    >>10975925
    >Uses the term assblasting

    Yep, definitely sounds like her and her friends. You guys speak and act like redditors. You act extremely aggressive online and in texts, and then in real life you're very shy and timid. This comes from a lack of self confidence
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    what is it with wings being at neo tokyo everyone else there is normal why is this random cosplay dance only group there
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    >>10976168
    I think hardly anyone applied to perform, so they just accepted anyone and everyone in a desperate attempt to fill slots
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    >>10970026
    kek
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    I know the members of Wings, and the red one was* not sure if they still are, vindictive and talks behind people's backs
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    I wish they would just drop names and screenshots already. I've got the popcorn out and ready to be eaten.
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    >>10976723
    is this about martins google doc lol
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    >>10976813
    perhaps
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    anyone see all that trouble with everAIngel
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    all of 4qnqs shows have like the same 5 idols every time nowadays where the hell is the variety. there are other idols who aren’t faeble and reveil
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    >>10976924
    I only saw the graduation announcement, did something else happen?
    >>10976941
    The "scene" is dead. It's no wonder they're branching out with DJs. Just this week a few graduations were announced, a group just straight up evaporated, and two of 4qnqs own idols are having issues (that they've posted about). Ever Angel is produced by another group/company so idk if they will ever collab. The only wildcard group is Eimi's group (I forget the name), but it looks like they silently lost members and only have two left and rarely perform. Outside of that, there is bibi's group, but they only perform at raves it seems these days.
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    >>10976965
    i feel like this is a bit of an exaggeration tho. there’s also love chord, psycho seimei, finny, other than that actually i cant name that many desu
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    >>10976977
    Psycho Seimei aren't likely to be invited to perform by 4qnq again and Finny hasn't proven themselves at the same level yet though
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    >>10976977
    literally whos that rarely put their own shows together
    >>10976981
    did something happen?
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    >>10976981
    why wouldn’t psycho seimei perform agin what did they do? genuinely just out of the loop i only follow people on socials
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    >>10976984
    didn't one of the girls accuse another idol of raping her in the bathroom at a 4qnq show? or was that a different group?
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    >>10976965
    >The "scene" is dead. It's no wonder they're branching out with DJs.

    Hardly any idols/groups are debuting at all lately, also there's a low barrier for entry to being a DJ.

    >>10976984
    >why wouldn’t psycho seimei perform again what did they do? genuinely just out of the loop i only follow people on socials

    They haven't really appeared in a 4qnq event since last year and their activities have been sparse. Last time they appeared was Neko Nation and only one member has been performing as a solo recently.
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    >>10977028
    >Hardly any idols/groups are debuting at all lately, also there's a low barrier for entry to being a DJ.

    Honestly, the scene’s looking pretty dead lately. Looking at crowd photos, a lot of the usual faces haven't been showing up as much this year. Whenever I've actually gone recently, the whole vibe feels way more like a rave. Even the people who look like they're having the best time give off total rave vibes—makes you wonder why they're even at idol events instead of actual raves. They probably just think it's an easier place to hit on the idols than the typical rave crowd.
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    >>10977027
    I feel like we glazed over this. Another idol?
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    >>10977150
    since mid last year theres been these freaky rumours in sydney, a certain person from another state has been present every time

    I think we all regret inviting someone to a certain dinner around the same time last year
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    >>10977152
    Why bother coming to a gossip forum to be vague?
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    Why does Coda follow a Lolicon on X? Cherri from Oyasumimi also follows the same person.
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    >>10977256
    Coda is cool like that. She is a quintessential otaku shitlord and is honestly based.
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