Then stop doing it, it sounds like it's making you unhappy.

If you don't like cosplay photography then don't do it anymore!
don't do it anymore!
don't do it anymore!

Cosplay 'togs usually think they are better than they actually are

Also are creepazoids

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>>10919877
Yeah, I agree.

>>10919877
>Also are creepazoids
It's over. You got me.

>>10919881
girls always pose as #1 for me so I guess I win

>>10919877
>Cosplay 'togs usually think they are better than they actually are
good thing I always underestimate myself in everything I do then

>>10919907
even a perceived underestimation of your abilities is actually an overestimation in practice
>>10919906
girls always pose as #2 for me

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>>10919932 >>10920705

Do it for free or don't do it at all. "Professional" photographers are cringe.

>>10919924
Does the dopamine hit of ig shootouts when they like it count as "for free"?

>>10914831
The only reason guys become cosplay photographers is because they want cosplayer GFs but are too ugly to be cosplayers themselves.

>>10920001
I've been found out

But also I think it's one of the more fun way to pass the time and mingle at a con.

>>10914831
Technically, cosplay photography is a dying art with the rise of reels. There's just so many cosplayers who once took high quality photos barely post them anymore because they don't preform well compared to video.

>>10920069
thank you short form content for melting people's brains

It's sad as I've been getting hit with bot accounts pretending to be female cosplayers telling me to follow so many cosplay photographers that paid for followers compared to those that have paid for ads on Instagram

>>10914831
>it seems like the amount of bullshit we have to put up with as photographers in the cosplay scene only increases day by day
Please list some things out. I'm sure you'll come off as a the proto-creepy photographer if you do.

What's your preferred lens for cons? Nifty 50? 24-70 zooms? 35mm primes?

>>10920299
50mm f/1.2 for solos
35mm f/2.8 for groups

Cosplay photography isn't going away. It's just people using cellphones and pro cameras and posting them to social media instead of their own websites.

Cosplay hall photography is a dying art.

>>10920327
I am so oppressed for nice lenses as a m4/3 user

>>10920344
>>10920327
as photography guys: if you had a gf and she wanted to get you a lens or other camera gear as a gift, what would really blow your mind?

>>10920001
I became a cosplay photographer because I had a cosplay GF, who I met while we were both cosplaying, and I had photography equipment and experience outside the cosplay world. I stopped marketing myself after we broke up and only shoot occasionally on request from friends now because I don't like the experience as a single guy, it's not fun knowing that everybody just assumes I'm some loser trying to get laid.

>>10920299
Back when I was really active as a cosplay photog my bread and butter were the 24-70 and 70-200 2.8s, since I was also doing real photography work and had the whole pro setup. I've since downsized and my main lenses are 35 and 85 primes. I've always hated 50s, it's an awkward focal length that never seems to be right for what I'm doing and I prefer the noticeable perspective effects of the other lenses.

>>10920365
>Back when I was really active as a cosplay photog my bread and butter were the 24-70 and 70-200 2.8s, since I was also doing real photography work and had the whole pro setup.

Do you think a micro 4/3 with the equivalent (12-35 iirc) lens would do the job for cons? Or does the small sensor and convention center lighting make it more difficult?

t. thinking about ditching a garage sale K-30 for something a bit smarter and smaller

>>10920369
I never did true hall shots (shot at cons plenty but it was always off to the side in a more organized, extended shoot and either in locations with good natural light or with off-camera flashes set up) so I'm not the greatest person to ask but I think it'd be suboptimal. I'll also say that, for what I was doing, I found that a zoom wasn't the best choice, I actually looked at stats of my photos and found that I pretty much never used anything between 35 and 70 on my 24-70 so I switched to faster, sharper primes.

Pro tip, always look at a “cosplay photographers” instagram. If it is 75% hot women and lots of cleavage/fanservicy photos, they are a creep. That covers a good 99.999% of them. Age, experience, or equipment doesn’t tell the story, it’s what they post to the public that says everything.

>>10920477
Stop shooting with male photographers and you never have to worry about things like that again

>>10914831
>snoy
The camera brand of choice for coom brain degenerates.

>>10920514
unfortunatley the vast majority are male

>>10920514
if the female's photographer's insta is 75% hot guys and lots of exposed collar bones/muscles/fanservicy photos, they are a creep.

>>10920563
Most female photographers just photograph other naked women

>>10920563
Lmao the idea that most male cosplayers aren’t out of shape tubs of lard. Thanks for the kek

I am new to cosplay photography. How much do you pay to photograph the cosplayers at a convention? Is $50 a good starting point, since that is how much those people in costume charge at Las Vegas or Hollywood, or is that too little since the cosplay at conventions tends to be better quality?

>>10920602
$0, or they're paying you for the gig in 99% of cases. Would you pay people to take their picture on Halloween? Fuck no.

I feel like cosplay photography is a scam for the cosplayers. Think about it. When you work at a company, the company is enriching themselves using your time and skills and you get compensation in return. But for photography, you are paying the photographer for them to enrich themselves by using you as advertisement

>>10920615
No. Anyone that's paying you is 100% trying to convert IG clout to money. If you want that, fuck you pay me.

Most of the time photographers and cosplayers do it for the love of the game or as an excuse and icebreaker to socialize.

>>10920563
Show me even one coomer female photographer
However, I can show you several male photographers who's insta is full of tits and ass

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>>10920622
What's actually wrong with sleazemaxxing? It seems to be mutually beneficial for thots and sleazy photogs

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>>10920653
Thanks, guys. My spouse's birthday is coming up and I really wanted to go all-out.

>>10919924
>just work for free
>working for pay is cringe

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>>10920622
>implying female cosplay insta is not full of tits and ass

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>>10920477
>>10920564
Spoiler: people like looking at people they find pretty, and likewise work with people they find pretty. Especially if they're not making money. Why should someone force themself to work with people who are not pretty for free?

>>10920653
>>10920691
Well, the Canon EF 1200mm f/5.6L USM Lens is like $100,000. Maybe have them put a ring on you first.. ;)

>>10920615
Lol that’s straight up retarded. You’ve gotta be pretty full of yourself to think you’re in anyway enriching for a photographer. Also you could say that about any artist/craftsperson with a portfolio and I think you would realize how stupid it sounds.
>you’re paying the seamstress to enrich themselves by using the cosplayer as advertisement
>you’re paying the wedding photographer to enrich themselves by using the happy couple as advertisement
>you’re paying the muralist to enrich themselves by using the side of your building as advertisement

Anyway stop being cheap scum and pay up for a person’s labor

>>10920635
Girls don’t like getting molested or hanging around dudes with a molesty vibe

>>10920814
Zero point to this lens for 99.9% of photographers and the last 0.1% would be better served by renting it

>>10920841
>Girls don’t like getting molested or hanging around dudes with a molesty vibe
Patently false, Harvey Weinstein and Terry Richardson immediately come to mind and those are just some famous ones.

>>10920814
Yeah the cheaper lens seems like it might be the best option. That or taking them to the Laika store. We've been married for years now, but my spouse is hard to buy gifts for, even though I feel very spoiled.

>>10920935
Yeah, I suggest getting their thoughts and watching what they look at. A huge telephoto bazooka is neat, but useless for most types of photography. Macro lenses go the other way. Amazing if you want to shoot insects, but useless for distance. It really comes down to what kind of photography they do.

cosplay photographers please explain why men ask for pictures of my fatty self for cosplays? it makes me feel happy sure because i try my bestest to look good but WHY. i always forget to ask for them too like what do they even do with them? did someone post me on the internet somewhere or are they doing something worse privately?

>>10920991
They mostly shoot either people or landscapes, but they're still kind of trying to figure out their niche since they're new to the hobby. I noticed my spouse has been collecting increasingly large lenses, though. When I showed them the suggestions they kind of liked the smaller one, but also mentioned maybe getting another camera to work with since they only have a 35mm right now (my spouse does film photography exclusively)

>>10921005
Maybe they like your cosplay.

>>10920927
Harvey Weinstein and uncle Terry were both me too’d. That’s just further proof they don’t like getting molested

>>10921020
They were very happy to get molested, and to let other young girls get molested, and to benefit from being molested, for 30 fucking years .

>>10921044
Bud they weren’t happy about it. They were inexperienced models/actresses who were afraid of getting blacklisted if they didn’t roll with it and keep quiet

Does anyone here use con shoots to fund their weekend? Do you charge a lot and just do a few shoots, so you have more free time for weeb activities? Or do you charge a more moderate amount and make shooting cosplays your main con activity?

>>10923512
I charge $300 per session, and I do 5 a con.

The exclusivity and rarity is why I can get away with it. I could probably charge $500 and still fill up slots.

>>10923518
As someone who has never booked anything like this, how does it all go? like whats the process involve from someone reaching out to you, to them getting the pictures?

>>10923518
Do you do first come first serve with your slots or do you wait for several people to reach out so you can pick who you want to shoot with?

>>10923525
Find someone you want to hire. Message them about availability. The two of you hash things out. Upon the agreed upon date and time, you meet up and take photos. Payment is made either at the beginning of the meet up or at the end of the meet up. Afterwards, according to whatever was agreed upon, photographer sends any edits, additional unedited photos, etc after an agreed upon period of time.

>>10923525
>>10923533
Oh you're the photographer. Uhh same steps but step one is that you have to be good enough to convince someone to want to pay you money. Usually this is done by having a portfolio of work showing off previous results or word of mouth from previous clients to their friends. >>10923518 has to be either really fucking good or there's no one else in his neck of the woods to charge $300.

I always find it suspicious when photographers that advertise about how they've been shooting the con for years, never post or use any photos from the previous con's paid shoots for their ads! Like can we see some samples from past clients before we hire you?

>>10924003
That’s weird. I guess they either suck at photography or got stuck shooting a bunch of uggos that they don’t want in their portfolio. Where are you seeing stuff like that anyway? Do they just have blank social media pages or is this just a discord rando?

Speedlight? Or not even bother with that shit unless you're getting paid?

>>10924309
If you aren’t getting paid, then you should only be shooting in the way that you want to be shooting. If you want to bring it, then bring it. If you find it cumbersome, then leave it behind

>>10924110
You see those ads often on the groups for cons in Facebook, like AX, Katsu, Ota, SDCC, NYCC, Dragon, Colossal

>>10924110
>>10923536
At the end of a shoot, who owns the photos/copyright? Do both parties allow themselves to share on social media or does one have exclusivity? Does the cosplayer paying the photog normally also get rights to sell prints/merch from the photos?

>>10924766
>At the end of a shoot, who owns the photos/copyright?
The photographer unless otherwise stated in a contract

>Do both parties allow themselves to share on social media or does one have exclusivity?
Both have the right to post the images for self-promotion

>Does the cosplayer paying the photog normally also get rights to sell prints/merch from the photos?
No, that’s typically something that would need to be negotiated separately. Some photographers sell the merchandising rights for a flat fee, while others ask for a percentage of sales

>>10925069
damn thats alot worse than I thought, the photographer just holds all your stuff hostage what a horrible deal

>>10925097
Welcome to copyright laws in America. Negotiate ahead of time so everyone is on the same page for expectations and you'll avoid conflict later on.

>>10925097
How is it being held hostage exactly? You can post the pics freely. The only issue is if you try to profit off of their work. Also maybe a reality check is needed, but 90% of photographers at cons are wayyyy undercharging for the service being provided, so I can absolutely understand them taking issue with selling prints of their work

>>10925126
On the other side of the coin, I feel like a lot of photographers will be like "sure, cool" if you got commercial usage rights. I don't think a lot of them know the laws either.

>>10920344
>>10920369
12-35 f2.8 or 25mm f1.7/1.8 or 17mm f1.7/1.8 are all plenty good for casual hall shots. Still good for one on one shoots if you have daylight available.
anything 40 to 100 is good for detailed upper body or head portraits.

Going lo-fi with an old digicam or a point and shoot film camera with built in flash, or even an instax/polaroid is also a nice vibe for hall shots.
The instant photos are especially fun because you can give the person the print immediately as a keepsake.

>>10925449
Another thing with m43, is take advantage of the sensor stabilization to use longer exposures without a tripod. I can regularly do half second exposures handheld with sharp results. In a busy con with people walking in the background that can make a cool motion blur effect behind your subject while they pose.

>>10920299
101mm f4.5

>>10925449
shit, I was about to scream at the idea of using lenses that wide for people photography and then I realized you were talking about m4/3.

Personally I find that 35+85 equivalents are all I really need, I shoot Fuji now so specifically the 23 1.4 and 56 1.2. As I said in an earlier post I don't really do on the spot hall shooting though, I'll take somebody off to the side and do a mini-shoot.

>>10925147

That's personality rights, and if the photographer sells them without the cosplayer's permission, hope they enjoy the lawsuit. Plus side is most competent commercial companies have lawyers that will require paperwork from all parties.

Cosplay whores complaining about photogs.

I don't even professionally do photography but I have my Canon R5 and a 35mm prime lens. Its the easiest way to coom into OF/Cosplay girls (as a bald 34 year old )trying to make it big as the next e-girl.
This is just Cosplayers mad they don't have the rights to the RAWs.

>>10927325
Why such an expensive camera if its just for a hobby?

>>10927340
Cheap Yen Rate, also its make you look more professional imo.
In any case no photographer should do anything for free at a con.

>>10923512
I made over $1,600 during Anime Expo, I barely broke even, it sucks.

>>10927325
That’s a basic bitch camera, come back with a real camera like R3 and R1 little boy.

>>10927457
Did you book things ahead of time or was all that money made on the spot?

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>>10927457
What's your business/revenue? >>10927460 Same question.

>>10927458
I don't need the performance of the r3 and if I'm filming video I have a used RED helium cine camera for 8k.

>>10920477
> t. mad they never got pics of themselves

>>10920602
What?
> since that is how much those people in costume charge at Las Vegas or Hollywood
Bruh.

>>10920602
$20 is a good starting rate, and if they are good, $50-100, pay $200-500 if they do nudes of if they have over a million followers on social media.

>>10914831
asians irl vs what they look like in photoshopped pics is scary

and i’m korean

>>10927457
How much time do you spend on the photo editing and processing after a shoot? Mind sharing your workflow for editing and organizing?

>>10926509
So basically, unless they make a specific contract, the model can't sell prints because the photog owns the photograph copyrights and the photog can't sell prints because the model owns the rights to her own likeness, and the photog would need a model release?

>>10920622
>However, I can show you several male photographers who's insta is full of tits and ass
Yes and?

>>10927648
Double that and I think that’s closer to reality, always being several thousand with you to a con. It’s also etiquette to tell them that you have the thousands of dollars ready for photos so that they are ready for photos.

>>10927849
I can't tell if this is trolling or not but it's the cosplayer that pays if there's a model release.
>>10927769
Depends the goal with any digital photography is you should shoot with the intention of having least amount of post processing as nessary or at least that's my goal.

>>10920602

Depends on your skill, but you can find rates from $30 to $500 for shoots lasting 10 minutes to an hour

Cosplay photographers are the worser verison of the bf who takes instagram pictures for his girl or female friend. Even if youre being paid for it, you're still an image slut for them. And then they think just cause they get to do some lewd pics in their hotel room, it's their "in." Heard too many stories of women that had to basically reject or refuse photographers who thought just cause they got to see her nipples it means she wants to fuck them.

>>10921060
>Bud they weren’t happy about it. They were inexperienced models/actresses who were afraid of getting blacklisted if they didn’t roll with it and keep quiet

As someone who is in the industry, do not defend whores. These women are happy to fuck jewish producers to get to the top and contently so. They will stand outside in the cold weather for hours just to get one moment with these guys. That sounds a lot more like willingly throwing their pussies out.

>>10929163
How do I photograph nipples? Do I approach a girl and say, “let me photograph your hippies?” and then complement them to get agreement?

>>10929739
Im pretty sure as long as you have a good camera and provide her "free" sessions, that will be enough. Even then, they'll probably vet you to make sure youre not one of the hundreds of photographer creeps.

>>10929818
Would it be weird if I use a 2x magnification macro lens on her left nipple and ignore everything else?

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>>10929163
>Heard too many stories of women that had to basically reject or refuse photographers who thought just cause they got to see her nipples it means she wants to fuck them.

I think I would prefer photographing birds & nature over stuck up female cosplayers.

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>>10930476
Just photograph guys then, baka

>>10930489
Wouldn't be a bad idea actually, but would send signals that I'm gay which I'm not.

>>10930538
You sound like an insecure loser desu

>>10930614
Nice try gay guy, I know you thirst for my camera and body.

>>10930615
is that a sony a1 you have? because I swear your body is looking nice

>>10929820
use a tilt-shift lens to get both nipples geometrically corrected and within the focal plane and blur out everything else
>>10930489
was going to complain about the lack of a fill flash but actually it’s better without the fill flash, would have been even better with the lens cap on

>>10931041
cameras can't take pictures with lens caps on, silly!

>>10931056
>he doesn’t have a carefully bored pinhole lenscap for taking smeary long exposure landscape pics
I bet you use the strap that comes with the camera too. greenhorn

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>want to have a variety of men and women in my shoot portfolio
>only shoot requests I get are from women, not a single male

>>10930475
nude photography is and was always just a prelude for sex, that's what you're saying
lmao dude

>>10931126
lol it is
If you want to do nude shit do it in a group like being a model for figure drawing or in a professional photography studio.
You are using a hotel like a prostitute and exposing yourself 1 on 1 with a man. Go get a female photographer if you're all tired of men reacting naturally in such a situation my dude.

>>10931068
Stop being a pussy and just ask a dude with a nice cosplay at the con if he wants to shoot with you

>>10919881
You know what I'm going to do with it.... I'm gonna coom to it :)

>>10931068
men arent as narcissist as the women so it's to be expected. however, when I want to get a shoot, I usually go and ask someone. The problem however is that a lot of photographers are mostly horny perverts who rather take pictures of women so they don't give you as much effort despite me paying out the ass for a session.

>>10932059
I mean it’s been said throughout this thread, but I guess I’ll say it again. HIRE FEMALE PHOTOGRAPHERS. If you’re sick of guys with cameras giving you no effort because you’re also a guy, then hire a girl

>>10932065
>female photographers

They don't have the best cameras like the guys do. No offense.

>>10932065
nta but female photogs worth a damn are hen's teeth, especially in the cosplay scene, and the few that exist are booked solid all weekend doing shoots with other girls that want a break from the horny guys with cameras. Most good female photogs won't touch cosplay with a ten foot pole anyway, the combo of being halfway decent and having a vagina basically guarantees nonstop real photography jobs or real models lining up at your door for art shoots so they don't need to slum it with us nerds, and a lot avoid it even when they're into anime/cosplay/etc.

>>10932067
Retarded cope bud

>>10932105
Where do you live? For the cons I go to, excluding the ones with shit portfolios, I usually see about a 60/40 split on male vs female photographers

>>10932059
imagine paying for photos

>>10932132
I only do it for cosplays I really put work into and want to post to my social media.

>>10932108
SoCal. There are female photogs around but not many good ones. There aren't many good male ones either obviously, honestly just a handful that I'd want to shoot with, but still more than female ones. I say this as somebody who's a cosplayer and a photographer but not a cosplay photographer btw.

Know your value, charge photographers for photos. Too many cosplayers are doing it for free and undermining the value of the hobby. Photographer asks for a pic, tell them “$100 for 10 photos” and the quality of the photos will improve. It will also weed out the creeps with cameras since the good photographers will pay. Most photographer are rich anyways.

>>10931068
That’s pretty telling about you. I am friends with many male cosplayers and many of them go out of their way to do shoots with me inside of con and out of con.

If you are good, they will seek you out because you have a godly rep.

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>>10933545
maybe I should just ask more of my male friends for photoshoots then instead of waiting for them to come to me

>>10933543
>charge photographers for photos.
I know /cgl/ is full of trolls but that's... not how it works.
The photo is owned by the photog unless specifically stated otherwise (usually in writing on a contract release). No one is going to pay for your photo and they are not obligated to pay you either (doesn't mean they can take photos without consent). Even if they did it technically wouldn't be for the photo but you as a "model".

>>10933565
This may sound like too obvious why not reach out to photography clubs esp if you are at college/university. They likely wouldn't charge and I'm sure there are plenty of starting out photographers that would love a subject/model to practice with. If you take cosplay photography seriously I would seriously considering joining a photography club or taking even a intro class to it.

What’s everyone’s go to con lens?

>>10934309
I like using a 400mm f2.8

>>10934309
50mm f1.7 for casual shooting and 24-70mm F2.8 for shooting stages

>>10934309
35+85 (or crop sensor equivalent) primes, f/2 or faster. 35 is wide enough to get full body shots without having to back up a million miles, while not being so wide that it makes people look bad, and 85 is the classic for portraits and is also magic for half or full body shots if you've got the space, busy backgrounds are a constant problem at cons and a fast 85 can turn everything behind the subject into cream.

I used to use a 24-70 and 70-200 for cons just because, as a photojournalist in real life, they were what I had, but once I stopped shooting pro I wanted to downsize to a smaller, lighter setup, and I used a tool that analyzes metadata and it showed that the vast majority of my cosplay stuff was shot with the zooms set to either around 35 or around 85, so I switched those primes. (I went from FF Nikon to APS-C Fuji so the lenses specifically are the 23 1.4 and 56 1.2.)

fashion photographer here
love showing up at cons with gear more than most con photag's net worth and doing sessions for free, where even my fave lens alone is worth more than most's entire setup

its fun setting unfair expectations onto photographers at cons and reminding them they're amateurs. kinda cute when a roastie knows she can spend $500 on photos and still wont get ones as good as she lucked out having me take for free. I make plenty from my actual work, I only take the photos I want to at cons, I dont need some wagie's pittance money nor do I want their 'exposure'

>>10934476
post a timestamp pic of your fave lens or larp

>>10934476
That was basically me back in the day too, though my main gig was sports so my favorite lens, 500/4, wouldn't have been much good at a con.

I remember one time I was at a smaller con and they'd given an older, somewhat notable and well-equipped but mediocre, photog that I was acquainted with his own room to use as a studio. I was hanging out with his daughter and some other friends there and he left the room for a while, and once he'd been gone for like 20 minutes I noticed that he'd left the modeling lights on his studio strobes on, this was long enough ago that they were still halogens that would burn out eventually and I was familiar with the Profoto strobes he was using so I turned the lights off. Dude eventually came back and flipped the fuck out, trying to swing his dick around about how much his gear cost and insinuating that I'd never even touched gear in that price range before, shut him up pretty quick when I pulled my D3S+24-70 out of my bag and then told him that even if I broke his shit I had a $3m liability policy and full coverage for rental gear etc. though.

>>10934480
just say you're butthurt and move on. It's quicker, more on topic, and more accurate.

>>10934578
weird someone with a camera cant post pictures on an imageboard, I dare say they lie on the internet

>>10934691

>>10934480
>>10934582
I'll back this anon up. No timestamp because it's a very old photo, as I said in previous posts I don't shoot pro anymore, but here's one of mine from back in the day.

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>>10934690
Shit, realized it had a watermark with my real name that I had to censor out.

>>10934691
now THATS a chonky boy, very nice

I simply enjoy taking pictures of cosplayers at cons. I have slight social phobia so such experience in controlled and friendly environment does help a lot. I like these moments when I politely ask some random cosplayer for posing, show them photos afterwards and they are genuinely happy or even contact me later asking if they can out them on FB/IG/etc. I normally upload to my own private site and give link if they ask for it. Also got "official" accreditation at few cons before so I also enjoyed shooting events or cosplay contests. I honestly think I'm getting better at this. And no, I don't take any money.

Only problem I see is how I'm getting older (34 already) and average age of cosplayers goes down rather than staying constant. I'm afraid I will have to stop doing it soon and, since I have rather low self-esteem, I never actually asked out any cosplayer for a session yet. I would really want to experience this at least once, to be honest.

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>>10934971 >>10934974 >>10934976 >>10934987 >>10961788

>cosplay tog thread
>no one posts any pictures they've taken

>>10934969
I made thread on /p/ few weeks ago, uploaded selected photos from two cons I visited. I simply don't think I should duplicate.

>>10934969
The cosplayers I work with wouldn't appreciate being posted on 4chan and many wouldn't work with me if they knew I posted here.

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>>10934969
I don't do anything professional I just roam the halls taking pictures of stuff I like

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>>10934974
No snapshits or hallshots?

>>10934978
No, I only do shoots. I went to school for commercial photography, but ended up working as more of a photojournalist, so hall photos are too close to what my real work was while private shoots are the only time I get to use my lighting and art direction skills so they're what interests me. I also don't shoot much at all these days and don't advertise or solicit shoots, I just do stuff on request from friends or people they refer.

I do feel like I should clarify that I'm not one of those sketchy guys doing lingerie shoots in hotel rooms or anything, I do most of my shooting in public at cons, I just find good spots around the con center areas and take people there to do a 30 minute shoot or whatever.

I'll also add that I don't even do serious editing myself anymore, I do the basic color correction etc. but people generally want much more serious shooping these days and since breaking up with my ex-gf (who, for all her other flaws, was an excellent photo retoucher) I just process my RAWs and then hand the pictures off to the cosplayer, who will have the retouching done however they want, so I don't even have fully edited pictures available to post and the people I work with particularly wouldn't want me posting the unedited versions.

>>10934978
NTA, I used to shoot a ton of hallshot snaps and posted here too, at the time it was fun in a Pokemon Snap kind of way. Nowadays I shoot mostly friends and they wouldn't be too impressed at knowing I hang out here. On top of that somehow I've ended up mostly going between con events or social meetups during the day with not much time to wander looking for subjects like I had before. Hallshots are few and far between unless something makes me do a double take and halt in my tracks,when someone has a particularly well constructed costume or a really rare character that I like. I used to always grab hall shots of the FOTM anime, or costumes with tits and asses hanging out but nowadays the FOTM is ridiculous gacha game costumes identically bought from ali express and the exhibitionist cosplayers are either too young looking to risk looking like a predator or too plastic egirl aesthetic for my taste.

>>10934969
My hall shots are mid and I'm not outing myself with my shoots

>>10934987
>and I'm not outing myself with my shoots
this too, image search and you'd instantly be on my flickr or instagram

>>10934989
>>10934987
flip horizontally, add a few small ms paint dots on the image in random places, can't find any matches now

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>>10935076

>>10934989
>>10934987
fair enough.

>>10935071
can you post that on the /p/ cosplay thread, I have a desire to see the exif

>>10920001
im a cosplay photog because im a photographer first, i go to tons of different places and events to take pictures, from street photography, to landscapes, wildlife, cars, etc. i take pictures at conventions because its fun
i mean i am ugly but have you seen the state of the average cosplayer? most of them are not exactly physical specimens of high caliber
>>10927711
yeah but it usually goes like this
>see cute asian cosplayer girl
>ask her to take some pics, swap socials
>edit the pics, think wow she really looks great (like a human being)
>send her a copy
>the version that she ends up posting, she has photoshopped herself into oblivion, turning herself into some type of uncanny valley animu ugu monster that barely looks human
many such cases

>>10919906
Yeah, #1 means you're not creepy which is great

>>10935388
Yeah, I've got Japanese cosplayer friends and have shot with a few, and it's wild. These are actual friends who stay at my house when here, or host me when I'm over there, so I've seen them with no makeup at all with with regular everyday makeup, and they're very cute, attractive girls, but come time for a con they do all kinds of crazy shit with makeup, tape, and glue that already makes them look weird and then shop the pics so that they look full-on alien.

>>10914831
I am super new to conventions and cosplaying. Can someone help me understand how people make money off of cosplaying? I am really dumb on the topic and can't wrap my head around it.
How do cosplayers make money off of their cosplays? Is it through advertising themselves online and getting ad revenue from site visits? Is it asking people to pay you money to take pics of you? Do photographers sell their photos? And if so, who pays for them? Maybe the photos are sold to promote the con?
Cosplays are great but I don't see the appeal of wanting to buy a photo of a cosplayer. I guess I just don't understand the economy around it.

>>10935587
either
- be invited to conventions and have a table to sell prints/selfies
- get picked up by a company to be an official cosplayer for them at events
- onlyfans/fan subscription services where people pay you for "cosplay content"

>>10935587
>>10935626
Patreon can be an option too, but you pretty much have to be somebody who makes your own stuff and does it well to be successful there. It's pretty much the only way as a male cosplayer or a girl who doesn't slut it up though - my ex was a very attractive girl but didn't do sexy stuff at all and was instead into armor and big extravagant dresses with lots of embroidery etc., and she made pretty good money with a Patreon that focused as much on cosplay and prop-making content as on wearing it. (She's since started sexing it up more and doing less fancy cosplay-making as her popularity has slipped, though.)

>>10919881
No never take pictures of women. Seems simple enough.

>>10919881
>>10935716
I only take photos of cosplayers from stuff I am a big fan of, or if the fit is that damn good.
I refuse to take pictures of thots, and very rarely lolita.
This post is part of the reason why, because you may as well delete the -middle-aged- part and just leave it at men, and we all know it. It's like going to a kpop concert, just don't do it.

>>10935745
I try to take pictures of every woman showing bare legs

>>10935460
>>10935388
Have you ever seen the crazy filters in purikura booths? They end up look like fucking alien greys and somehow still call the pictures cute! I just don't get it

>>10935745
I lost any self consciousness I had of attending Kpop concerts when at one of them, just 5 seats to my left and a row back I saw a literal 300lb landwhale in full frilly regalia double fisting a pair of those korean corn dogs with the potato or ramen on the outside and covered with sauces. Nobody's gonna care about a boomer like me attending.

I do like to take photos of lolita when there's good light and space to isolate the subject from the background. Otherwise if the background is busy it clashes with all the details in the fabric prints and lace.

>>10934981
>breaking up with my ex-gf (who, for all her other flaws, was an excellent photo retoucher)
You too?

>>10935076
here u go
>4356681

>>10935635
I want to do a photographer patreon, is there any tips and tricks to make some money? I need to make around $100,000 a year.

>>10936276
Post nude photos of yourself and cosplay nudes. Before you know it, you have life changing money.

>>10936276
Does any photographer make money from their own site?

The hot girls have their own site so why should they come and pose for you?

Maybe if you worked for other girls and took a cut of their Patreon/OF earnings?

>>10920001
Jokes on you, my GF was already a cosplayer before purchasing my camera.

>>10937807
I think that If you had a site where you got a whole bunch of different girls to do cosplay porn with a single subscription you could make pretty good money. That's basically what CosplayDeviants is, and they seem to do OK, though they're not a single photog doing it. Cosporn is kinda underserved in North America and if I had the startup money to pay girls I think I could probably do pretty well, I have a bunch of ideas that I think would be successful, but I have zero inclination to be a pornographer.

>>10935716
no one cares about men
no one will view the pics
sad but true

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>>10942572

So legendary photographer Eurobeat King/Kasumi is retiring

Say what you will about him but he's been at it for like 30 years

Shame Cosplay.com went kaput, all those photos gone forever

>>10942021
I heard legendary cosplay photographer Weiss Lieselmann is also retiring. It sucks because he is a god among photographers.

>>10937807
I make an easy $450k a year, it’s an easy way to get to the upper class. One year I made just under 7 digits, it was amazing.

Is Everage still around anywhere?

Whats the best way to send a shit load of photos to someone from the shoot? I'm sure theres some standard, but I was thinking uploading a big zip somewhere

>>10945370
Google Drive, then share the folder and send them the link

>>10945370
Giving them a flash drive

what are some good lenses for a crop sensor canon? I usually just stick to a 35 prime but after my last con i'm thinking about getting a better zoom lens maybe an 18-135 or 10-24

>>10949679
For walk around, the standard zoom. 16-50+ f/2.8

>>10949679
50

>>10939832
I remember when ig's algorithm wasn't dogshit, and thus this was true:

>female mildly attractive cosplayer in pic - over 20 likes
>male cosplayer: lol not even 10 likes

now neither get anything unless someone I tagged shares the pic in an ig story
still
lmao, sometimes the market speaks for itself

>>10914831
wired

>>10954738
wired up

man

>>10949770
I use a 500mm f2.8, it’s a little heavy but the photos are worth it. I mean, if you aren’t spending $13,000 on photography, ate you really into the hobby?

>>10920299
50mm slavshit adapted to crop sensors

>>10920369
Get the Olympus 45mm 1.7, it's dirt cheap and will be your portrait lens for a long time

>>10920299
iphone

>>10934969
lmao bro, I can't post anything here; you could dox me instantly. I would love to show off my pics tho. Too bad.

>>10960437
iphone srayphone

I'm a beginner photographer and I haven't been able to do much photography of people since my friends and family don't like being photographed. I figured conventions would be a good place to practice, but I have never gone as a photographer before. What's the proper etiquette when asking someone for a photograph? Do you just go for it and leave or is a conversation about the character and costume appreciated? I'm a bit of a sperg if you haven't noticed.

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>>10964241 >>10969016 >>10969076

Sorry for being a total newfag, but I’ve been a thread lurker for a while. Just wanted to see if anyone else had seen the drama going down in the CA/AZ scene.

>>10964232
Im just waiting to see if all of those photographers will come together and file a defamation lawsuit against reiinacos for making that list.

>>10964241
And now she’s deleted the doc and filtered her comments kek. I hope she learns a real, hard lesson from this. Knowing her though, she won’t.

>>10914831
mmm so make this brief to me, a guy that isnt really into cosplay and much of a tourist in this board. Hows the interaction between phtographer and cosplayer? like you simply took the photo and leave or do you share it with the cosplayer?

>>10966192
A good photographer will let the cosplayer know where to find it afterward. Bonus if they have business cards.

>>10964241
>>10964263
why defamation? she isnt wrong

>>10966210

She was wrong, because she had no proof on everyone that was named. She was literally just running with gossip and looking to make clout off of it which does more harm than any good.

>>10964232
What do they mean by "unsafe"?

>>10964011
A simply "Hi, can I take your picture?" is enough 99% of the time. You can add things like saying you like the costume or the character. People like if you can recognize and name who they're wearing.

Do:
- Say thank you and smile afterward.
- Look for cosplayers who are standing around not doing anything, they're probably waiting for someone to ask.
- Have a few poses ready to suggest in the back of your pocket in case they're new and don't know how to pose.
- Be mindful of the level of activity around you and them. Having a conversation can be welcome, but if there are a lot of people also taking photos it's best to move on quickly. Watch the foot traffic level in the immediate area and avoid blocking walking paths for more than a few seconds.
- Look for group public photoshoot meetups on the event's discord or forum. You basically stand in a row with other photogs while the cosplayers take turns posing in the center,

The few don'ts to remember are:
- Don't approach someone for a photo while they're eating.
- Don't ask for a photo when they've already taken off their wig or some other major piece of the costume.
- Don't take it personally if someone says no. They're probably just tired or they have to hurry to reach a scheduled event.

I still love doing it just it irks me some SEA con photography "culture" increasingly being prevalent at my local cons. Cosplayers coming explicitly to just get a few photos or vids for social media then leaving, and photags with zero spacial awareness trying to camp parts of the con floor with some mid af setup.
The latter is at least fine when theres a designated area, just I like my cons being more than a dim background for some thot's xiaohongshu post.

>>10964232
any have am mirror to this google doc?

>>10969031
weaboos keep complaining that other cons should be more like asian cons, and that's what happens in asian cons. it is strange that they go to cons like that instead of just doing it anytime though.

>>10969031
i love xiaohongshu and chinese cosplayers. they look so good

>>10969022
I was at a con last year, went out for a smoke, and a perfect silent hill nurse sat down on the bench next to me, half rolled up her mask and was eating a chik-fil-a sandwich out of the box. I regret not getting a shot, it was iconic

>>10973814
Taking pictures of cosplayers while they're eating is rude. Unless you get their permission, don't do that shit.

>>10969076
I have a print out of one of the revisions way before she decided to tone it down one final time.
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B-rdVMWxGjWPnonuwYf5zoYJ7dTM96Uv/view?usp=sharing

>>10973822
You sound like a fag and your shit's all retarded
This isn't reddit
Why don't you tell me your pronouns