If you were really rich (over 100 million USD), would you have a normal relationship and get married, or would you enjoy your life with escorts?In the time it would take to be in a normal relationship, you could earn a few million more, and compared to that, escort is cost-effective. Even with a good prenuptial agreement and a trust fund, a divorce will cost you much, much more — so from a rational standpoint, escort is the better choice.Besides, you won’t be able to have a normal relationship because every woman will want a share of your wealth. In a transactional relationship, you get more of what you want and less of what you don't want.
>>62815521> with escortsDopamine is just a trick your genes use to make you reproduce and pass your DNA to the next generation. At the end of the day, you're merely a slave to your own genes.
>>62815536Nothing matters, but your journey through this life will be a more pleasant one if you can suspend disbelief and pretend it does.
>>62815553> more pleasantDopamine is actually harmful to you and ends up enslaving you. Of course, sometimes ignorance really is bliss.
>>62815521would spoon with her reese if you catch my drift
I would go the escort route.The only downside of not getting married would be not being able to spread for your genes, but for people with serious money, high end surrogacy clinics exist with a bunch of women with 10/10 genes who will carry your child for you, and surrogacy clinics offer to combine it with IVF and genetic screening, which allows you to pick and choose which gender you want the child to have and genetic traits like IQ.I wouldn't need some nagging roastlord in my ear to raise two high IQ sons by myself.
>>62815536I don't know why more people don't just impregnate multiple women and take care of them. I guess because at the end of the day women ultimately hate having children and just want a life full of sexual attention. Having a job was only means to sleep around since they would no longer need the support of one man. They probably wouldn't care if you paid them $4 million each to be stay at home moms because they would see nothing worth spending money on more than getting sexual attention from strangers.
>>62815536The meaning of life is to pass on one's genes to the next generation; otherwise, one is an evolutionary dead end. Ideally, one should mix one's own genes with those of a woman who has better genes than oneself; everything we humans consider attractive is ultimately just an indicator of good genes.Men have always tried to gain control over territory and resources because this guarantees them access to young, fertile women with good genes.
>>62815570>high end surrogacy clinics exist with a bunch of women with 10/10 genes who will carry your child for you, and surrogacy clinics offer to combine it with IVF and genetic screening, which allows you to pick and choose which gender you want the child to have and genetic traits like IQ.In which countries is this legally possible? Because in my home country, it's illegal, and my own children wouldn't be able to get a passport.So you'd first have to become a citizen of a country where this is legally possible.
>>62815579Attention is like a drug for women; they always want more of it, and more is never enough.Bringing women into the labor market has the positive effect for companies that nearly twice as many workers are available for open positions, thereby lowering labor costs. For the government, this has the positive effect that two incomes are taxed instead of just one, and that children can be indoctrinated by the government as early as possible, since their own mothers no longer take care of them. The family is the smallest social unit in a society and poses a threat to the state, which, as an all-powerful entity, seeks to regulate every detail of its citizens' lives.
>>62815521I know what I got.I know what I'm looking for.Simple as that.
>>62815601>In which countries is this legally possible?Most popular clinics are found in the US, Canada, Mexico, Greece, Ukraine (before war)>So you'd first have to become a citizen of a country where this is legally possible.That's not true. People from all over the world in countries where surrogacy is not legal travel to the US to get it done with zero issues. If your child is born in another country, that doesn't mean the child is ineligible for citizenship in your country. Although I'm sure there are a couple of authoritartian shitholes somewhere in the world that have its own set of rules for surrogacy births. Sorry if you live in one of those
why is it always actual whores once you make it? are you not able to hook up without paying or something?
>lovethe only love the universe values is the truth, if you truly love someone you'd feel the pattern in the heart and the mind, and beyond the limitations of the relative energy medium that are atoms, beyond speed of light, the soul can't be measured b/c it folds space, and space folds faster than light
>>62815720Let me put it this way. I can spend hours of my time courting women on datings apps, and then money on dinner/drinks, and end up fucking like half of them, who will at best be a 7/10 lookswise. While doing this I would have to spend hours listening to the retarded words coming out of their mouths. Or I could just cut through the bullshit and go straight for the 10/10s without having to waste time or braincells listening to their retarded thoughts. If your ego is very fragile and your self-worth is measured in being able to court women, then by all means, keep wasting your time. Men with money and self-esteem don’t need to waste theirs.
>>62815776Huh. So they closed all the brothels because we don't like it and it's bad. Actually just killing the pimp is fine the rest is too much work. Then everybody said what they really wanted. Then they opened up all the brothels everywhere all at once because they're bad and noone likes them. This one has buttons. Don't tell me what they have planned for the cardhouse... oh
>>62815720When you have money you get to fuck women who are out of your league. If you're flashing your money to date women for "free", you are only attracting gold diggers, and you will probably spend as much dating them as you would just paying an escort. Plus it comes with a lot of risks, because of a lot of gold diggers are legit predatory psychos who will try to extort rich men with false allegations. You know how billionaires have a bunch of models come over to their mansions all over the world? You think they sat on tinder and flashed pictures from their yachts? No, they just called up a high class escort agency and had 10 models delivered to their house
>>62815789Some probably did sit on tinder and flash pictures from their yachts. Civilian girls will go over to hit on a guy in a lambo, much less a full blown yacht.
>>62815789>they just called up a high class escort agency and had 10 models delivered to their houseOr had their assistant roam instagram for "influencers" who are just undercover escorts using their insta pages for advertisement. Apparently this has become increasingly popular
>>62815792Some probably do, but for like 95% of them it's simply not worth the risk. They have no idea of knowing who's a normal civilian girl and who's a psycho gold digger who will threaten to tell their wife or false allegations against them unless they pay up. If you talk to any UHNWIs about this shit you will find out how common that type of shit is. They have to be really careful about who they fuck, and high end escort agencies who employ actual models who are professional and willing to sign NDAs are the go-to for most of them
>>62815789>No, they just called up a high class escort agency and had 10 models delivered to their houseAnd it cost him almost nothing compared to a marriage and subsequent divorce, which would cost a billionaire billions. Many of the super-rich choose not to flaunt their wealth on social media because they don't want to become targets for criminals.
>>62815797>actual models who are professional and willing to sign NDAsWhich reminds me that in Japan, where a lot of high profile TV stars and pop idols have a side-gig as high class escorts, they will bring their own NDAs for their clients to sign too, lmao. Discretion is essential to these people
>>62815720By the time you have make it, you'll be old, bald, and have a belly, so no young, pretty woman is going to get into bed with you without something in return.whores are good at pampering you and banging your brain out.
>>62815769Men have a romantic view of love. Women have a practical view of love, which involves the man having a higher socioeconomic status and the woman satisfying her hypergamy instinct. If a woman can't benefit from a man, then there's no reason for her to enter into a relationship with him.That is why men strive for material possessions and status
>>62815521All the attractive women who would make great wives and mothers are taken in high school and college the latest. Whatever remains is taken shortly after they enter the workforce. There exist very few good looking women that are single and have a good heart, are modest, raised in a decent family, soft spoken and pretty. The window of opportunity when they are single is very very narrow. These are the 2% of women, the highest stock of females this wonderful creation can offer. If you don't frequent their circles or the events they attend you have no chance of meeting them. Women also don't go anywhere alone, so whatever hobbies women have or events they attend it is done with their husband or boyfriend and if they are single with their groups of friends.tldr; there simply aren't enough single good looking young white women to go around for everybody, they are rare and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in to
>>62815720You sound like one of those insecure 45 year old divorcees who has to go out and get laid to prove to themselves that they "still got it", lmao
>>62815521>Besides, you won’t be able to have a normal relationship because every woman will want a share of your wealth.Have you thought about finding a woman with a similar level of wealth?
>>62815720When you are in your 40s or 50s you are not going to pull the hottest women in their 20s for free. It doesnt matter how handsome you used to be or how smooth you talk. It just doesnt happen. You can either pay for it directly with an escort, or you can pay for it indirectly with fancy dinners, expensive experiences and other gifts. Either way you are paying for it, and you’re a fool if you think the latter scenario is any different than the former. It’s just escorting with a few extra steps
>>62815989Yeah. Here's an opening one-liner for the next dinner date that I try and never works:>What does "Forever" mean? 500 words or less, no mistakes, honest answer only. On my desk 15 minutes from now.Might need dressing up like throw in a "What's a starting salary look like for you?" or a "Tell me about a past project and how you dealt with it" but I leave that to the professionals. It goes without saying, I can afford experts.Either way 15min after setting up several avenues of quick clean escape manage risk somewhat well. It can be as all things improved, but I am in no way looking for any improvement. I don't do and will never do any of that shit.
>>62816022I don't know what your word salad is supposed to mean, but rich hang around in specific circles and places, just as poor and middle class people do.
>>62816030That's a good point. In the green or on the rough, you can find it where it lies. I'll keep that in mind for next time.
>>62815521You said money and love OP.Escorts are not love. Women that lust for your money are not love. I am not too poor but i prefer just to keep how much money i have to myself.It also depends how much you value money. If you are very rich getting more money doesnt really change your daily enjoyment while getting a good woman can. You cant get that with escorts.
>>62815521if you have money, women will throw themselves at you.You won't need escorts, you'll be able to get an harem any time you want.People who swallowed too many black pills say otherwise, because they believed women online that only talk about height, face, etc.Thing is, these blackpilled guys should know women say one thing and do another. Lots of women, when they realize a man has money, they become interested. And it's not merely gold digging, not always anyway.It's just attractive, but also they get curious because they want to know why you have money and how their life could change if they associate with you. They develop opportunistic fantasies.They say men don't do that, but I guarantee many would too. That's just human nature.
>>62815521oh, and another thing. Escorts are ugly and dirty. They often don't reason well.If you got money, you don't get escorts. Escorts are for the plebs who got a little money, or for rich guys who are somewhat too dumb to make the money work so they get the sexooo they want
>>62816083>"hell yeah, if you have money women throw themselves at you">proceeds to spin up elaborate stories in his head to explain how the stripper really loves him for other things besides the moneygrim. do not be like this guy. they get fleeced financially really fast
I hope you retards find an equally amazing woman as my wife is and then you will realize the difference. A whore is worth less than the tiniest nugget of my wife's poo and making a child with her is going to be an amazing adventure. I've had enough time for myself, alone and with my wife to realise this is my best next step for a fulfilled life. I've seen a lot of the world, done a lot of stuff and am now ready. I am underestimating it for sure but am certain it will provide me no regret when i will pass. It is selfish and i will do everything in my power to ensure my child will have the best start and safety net for as long as I can, even in death. Transactional intercourse is not the same as making love to your wife. One is masturbatory, the other is true grace.
>>62815942>If you don't frequent their circles or the events they at (...) and exist mostly in very niche places where men without social circles (loners) can't get in toThere are vacation havens for the super-rich (St. Moritz, St. Tropez, Ile de Cavallo, Aspen) and the most prestigious residential addresses in the major cities. When it comes to activities, they include art, culture, literature, and charity events. Where else — and at what events — can you find these wonderful women?
>>62815521Lack of a sex life has caused you to come up with this coombrained thought experiment. High-dollar escorts can never replace the joy of a relationship with a good woman.
>>62816233I have had a couple of long term relationships with amazing women and this is simply not true, unless you’re a manbaby who yearns for emotional connection
>>62816233>Every ruler in every part of the world throughout human history had a harem or dozens of concubines, but fucking a new super hot woman every week actually sucks because… it just does, okay?! Please you gotta believe me. I love my wife!!!
>>62816233>High-dollar escortsHigher prices do not mean better serviceI had the best time of my life in Pattaya, and these very cute and loving women were extremely affordable, ranging from 200 USD for 4 days to 500 USD for 6 days. There were also more expensive ones there that cost 120 USD per night, but they weren't any better—and sometimes they were even worse than the cheaper ones.
>>62816114Men age like fine wine; women age like milk.Wouldn't you rather have these three young women in the picture than your old wife? As far as reproduction is concerned, you can have an egg from a donor fertilized with your sperm at a fertility clinic and have the baby carried to term by a surrogate mother. You will then be the sole father, with no risk of divorce or custody disputes.
>>62816077Again Men have a romantic view of love. Women have a practical view of love, which involves the man having a higher socioeconomic status and the woman satisfying her hypergamy instinct.If a woman can't benefit from a man, then there's no reason for her to enter into a relationship with him.That is why men strive for material possessions and status - Money is a Token for it
>>62816114This desu. Not that I'm married or in a relationship, but I've definitely felt this spark with a couple of women over my lifetime, to the point I'd rather just forget about my sex drive if I have to be forced to settle for anything less (i.e. casual sex even if its with supermodels).Loving sex is divine and maybe one of the only things that make life worth living.
>>62816347my wife is probably 10 years older than these girls and she looks better. She isn't even the pick of the crop. Why? Because she's just a normal woman from Europe. These girls are mentally ill whores from some american ghetto.
>>62815939>material possessions and statusbwahahaha NPCs maybe,
>>62815521Im 40, at $7mn right now - retired from work, making about 10% annual return from investments which is ok for me.Had girlfriends in the past, but the current batch of 18-22 year olds is just rotten beyond anything, and I am not willing to settle with an older used up hag who gave her prime to other men.So I have decided in the last years to go down the escort path. And its much, much more peaceful to me, not having to worry about "finding a good girl" which felt like a clock ticking and always biased my decisions. But now, nope, fuck it, not gonna do that. I love fucking another fresh 18 year old every other week or so, so fuck you.Regarding progeny: Should I cross $15mn networth, I might be looking for a top elite egg donor (high IQ + model beauty) and pay a surrogate mother to pop out a kid. Gonna live somewhere, hire cook and nanny and have some . Might be looking for some "partner" who wants to wants to take on the mother role, e.g. like Ronaldos gf, (but in my case its likely gonna be some Asian girl), but I havent made my mind yet. I may think about that once I hit 50, so in 10 years or so.
>>62815521be like elon and have 15 kids.
>>62816373token not needed by the way.t. fuck married women even though I'm an alcoholic loser
This
>>62818127Based and reasonable. You probably already know this but I'll say it anyway: get 2 or 3 attorneys to review the documents you draw up to protect your fortune from the "partner" raising your children. Make sure there is not a single loophole or weakness in there which enables her to squeeze you financially
>>62818143But are they hot though? Anyone can fuck a whore. What counts is if she's attractive
>>62816719Stop lying to yourselves. If you were homeless, your girlfriend or wife would leave you immediately. Just try it out: tell her that you’ve lost everything due to risky stock market speculation, that you’re in debt to the tune of 3.7 million USD, and that from now on you’ll be living on the street. You’ll see how quickly that love disappears.
>>62818237Soulless VS PURE BRAZILIAN SOVL
>>62818127Is the 10% positive cash flow from rental income, dividends, operating profit, or both? How did you invest your money?
>>62815521I'd do whatever I want.
>>62815521>escortsThey're called prostitutes.
>>62818726>do whatever you want>make moneyyeah I guess I see how those two things go together
>>62818739There are levels of prostitutes, and people use words like luxury escort and crack whore to differentiate them
>>62818757Yes, that's exactly right. Just as the Arab Bedouins have 1,000 words for camels, there are also many different words in transactional intimate relationships with women that constitute a highly precise and finely tuned technical vocabulary. My favorite is “bargirl” in Pattaya.
>>62818311and that she don't has STD
>>62815521I feel like if you're a normal working person people look down on you for visiting escorts, like you're a complete loser and gross, but if you're rich and have like 10 escorts at your place somehow you're just extravagant or something.
>>62815521Traditional marriage is too risky for the rich man.
Not rich yet but I've had my stint if pros and SBs. Best thing is to get a sugar baby with little to no experience. Best I had was a titcow darling jeet (literally from India). I love brown girls with massive tits.She was wonderful. I'd bring lunch to her apartment and we'd fuck for hours. I could hit it raw so long as I cum in a condom later (suit up when I'm close).I think of her often. I also had an albino black woman with an insane body. Best of both worlds, black tits and ass with white skin and pink pussy.Lately I've been thinking about the bbl black queen I used to fuck too. She was ready for anything. Lovely complexion and bj skills.Lastly I saw a Dominican massage girl. Holy hell the most perfect breasts in existence. She even cos played as anime sluts. I miss them all.
First high level escorts then I would settle for tall, nordic and educate wife to give my sons good genes and pedigree.
>>62819478I like this plan but even rich, I'm so short. Idk if a tall woman would be viable. They're all cheaters
>>62815720because he is ugly and has no charm
>>62816347Then you get the joys of single parenthood. No, hiring a nanny will not replace the child having a loving biological mother. You’ll just raise a kid with mommy issues.
>>62815521No one at that level gets married. Duh. They just have sex, make babbies, and send the woman money. Marriage is for poors.
>>62815579Rich people do this and poor people do not do this because they cannot afford it
>>62820726this. I'm pretty well off and I have a gf, 2 kids, and she's ok with me fucking college girls on the side since I pay the bills and treat her as my main girl. I also stay in great shape. Just got to be transparent about it. Only way it works long term
>>62820726people with generational wealth know u need strong family values to not waste it all on failsons and other deadbeats
>>62815789Dude there is one time i hit up with single mum begging on me for some money, little did I know i could take full advantage of her and she really have a thing on me, but i chicken out and do the most socially acceptable move and leave her, then the local pimp quickly go and snatch them up, that is why we don’t have a chance at all on this occasions. billionaires hire the pimp to look for prey like this for surrogacy purpose.
>>62815521marriage is free sex
If you’re wealthy you have a traditional wife and a side girlfriend.Its been this way for all of human history.
>>62815521I would have multiple kids and give some money to each one of the mothers, a la Elon Musk. but unlike him, I'd dedicate time to them.>>62820988do the rich even take care of their kids? they hire people to be their caretakers...>>62818127so you don't even want an actual connection with the mother of your kids? how pathetic
Society tell you never ever approach single mum, they even go as far as calling them used and dirty and advice nobody should get near them. What is your take? Are they really some vile creatures?
>>62815521i have it all figured out. have children with whomever but not marrying that particular woman, and finding a separate partner or even employ a caretaker to be an actual mother figure for the child.the idea that you have to have both biological mother/ child-rearing mother within the same woman is why you're all doomposting. if im wrong feel free to BTFO me>>62821984it has little to do with the women and more to do with the hit to your masculinity/pride <-- which is pretty much the only reason you're willing to live to begin with.you might say it shouldnt be that fragile - whatever. it hurts you and it hurts you.
>>62821984Because then you're using your resources so that another man can pass on his genes to the next generation. Use your resources to pass on your own genes to the next generation.
>>62821207Many married couples don't have sex with each other; this is called a sexless marriage.
>>62822021>have children with whomever but not marrying that particular woman,Depending on where you live, the government may classify the relationship as a common-law marriage, with all the legal consequences that entails, including for your assets.
>>62821470>do the rich even take care of their kids? they hire people to be their caretakers...It's not a question of money, but of whether someone is child-friendly or not.
>>62821207Its not fucking free
>>62821207>>62825575As a man, you always pay one way or another. The more honest you are with yourself, the less you’ll pay, and you’ll get exactly what you want. And conversely, if you lie to yourself, you’ll end up paying with half your fortune, have to pay extra money every month (meaning you’ll work for someone else like a slave), and yet you’ll have spent most of your time in a sexless marriage.
>>62825653Everything is rigged including sex market. Boomers must take their own medicine.
>>62822166> Use your resources to pass on your own genesLmao that’s so full of woman logic, survival priorities in life. Obviously you are worrying survival all the time you can’t even not freaking out and need every control.
>>62826147 The instinct for self-preservation and the instinct for reproduction determine all of our actions; this has nothing to do with gender.
>>62825553>It's not a question of money, but of whether someone is child-friendly or not.anon... if you are a parent, you should take care and, even more importantly, KNOW your own kids. from what I've read, rich fucks barely even know their kids. they pay people to do it for them>>62826297>wanting to fuck anything that moves = "instinct for self-preservation and the instinct for reproduction"did you learn biology at the church or some shit?
>>62815521Escorts all the way, it's the only honest form of romance left.
>>62826624Nah, woman use survival trick to lure you into bad decisions, it work like a charm, when you mix survival with education you end up with clown logic that is half baked and full of whoring and lies, then instability, uncertainty nothing ever get done.
>>62827225you know you can get to see, know and take care of your kids without marrying a woman or even keeping a relationship with her? a LOT of people do that these days...this is no excuse
>>62815521If I had that much money I would seclude myself in a compound in the Swiss alps and never force myself to interact with another human being again
>>62815521>lovelol, lmao evenNo such thing, dumb goy, it’s just biological instincts, material interests and societal expectations, all pushed by Jews for population control
>>62827845youb love a dog right , you can love an inferior race too, you can also love your looksmatch, think of that girk you had a crush on in elementary , that was your one true love, many people only have 3 of those in thier lives. its rare
>>62827683> a LOT of people do thatThat’s what animals have been doing since ever, they breed just for survival purpose, the barren animals do not survive. For love? Nah. For sex? Nah. After the animals hit certain post-abundance age, they stop breeding. A lot of people turn to animal logic and breed just as nature intended. It is genuine connection.
