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    Tradition will not save you, nor will religion save you. Neither your church nor denomination will save you. Not one ritual will ever save you.

    Instead, this is what the Father desires: a heart full of love, eyes that do not condemn, a mouth that speaks what is true, and ears that listen humbly. For this is our law: that you become like Him and follow the example His Son set before you: love, compassion, justice, mercy, faithfulness, humility, and impartiality. In everything, practice these. Pray that your words be rebuked if you are speaking what is false.

    Tell me: what good is it to follow the law outwardly but inwardly be in rebellion against it? Surely, this has no value?

    Instead, become the kind of person who follows the law naturally. In this are fulfilled His words: "Make a tree good, and its fruit will be good." Become someone who loves unconditionally, who forgives without limit, someone who gives generously. In this, the law is perfected: that you love your neighbour as yourself.

    Know this: "The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart."

    The true security of salvation comes from knowing the Father through the Son. Though men call you a heretic, He loves you. Though they condemn you to hell, in that day, may the one who does His will be exalted.

    This is the Father's will: that you listen to His Son and let His teaching transform you.

    How can hate remain in love, or falsehood in truth? How can there be pride in humility or partiality in justice? How can there be condemnation in compassion or rebellion in faithfulness?

    In that day, you will stand naked before His Spirit, and all that is not of Him will burn away. Do not be like the foolish man who built his house on sand, but be like the wise man who built his house on the rock, so that in that day, your whole being won't collapse with a great crash.
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    Hosea 13:16 King James Version

    16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.
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    >>25264519
    >>25264518
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    CHRISTIANITY IS FOR SLAVES
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    >>25264518
    GAYYYYYYYYY
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    >>25264518
    >let His teaching transform you
    that is accomplished by the sacramental life in the Church and prayer
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    >>25264523
    It is accomplished by listening to His teaching and living by it. There is only one between man and God, and that is Christ.
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    >>25264521
    It's for Argonauts
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    Do not think that I have authority of my own. A prophet has authority only as far as they are speaking the truth. If I say, "I am a prophet," do not listen to me. But if I speak the truth, even if I never said, "I am a prophet," know that God has spoken to you.

    With your lips you honor the dead prophet, but seek to silence and put the living prophet to death. Why is this? If there were to rise another like John the Baptist, would you listen? If Jesus were to walk among you and not perform miracles, would you believe? Surely, you would call Him a heretic and condemn Him to hell, just as you people do to me, for this is what you love to do.
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    What does Jesus want us to do about the racial problems we are facing today?
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    >>25264526
    There is no reason to condemn a random rock to Hell. The only reason you will get condemned is because you have something worthy of it.
    >having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.
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    >>25264527
    Why do you worry about such things? The command is: love your neighbour as yourself. This is what you are commanded to do. Let other people split themselves into tribes, and let the wicked litigate the wicked. You are accountable to God alone.
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    >>25264518
    His teaching would never have reached you without the Church that Christ set up in history. The same Church that was divinely promised not to fall away.
    That same Church also providentially left behind writings that it saw as binding interpretations about what those teachings mean and how the Church ought to be governed, alongside codifying which books go in the bible. These things were all happening at the same time.
    So, if we look back to the life that said Church lived and if almost none of its facets, be it the liturgical practical aspect or those aforementioned binding interpretations, reflect what your denomination has today, then by rejecting the traditions of said Church, you deny the very teachings you claim to follow.
    After all, at least in the case of the immediate successors of the Apostles like St. Ignatius of Antioch, you are effectively putting words in the mouths of those who intimately knew and were taught by the Apostles, who were given a divine right to teach and appoint successors that would then pass on the faith correctly.
    In other words, by denying the traditions set forth by the Apostolic Fathers, you would be calling the Apostles themselves untrustworthy and claiming that they were ultimately the cause of the Church falling away, which would be a system level defeater for all of Christianity by its own standards.
    So ask yourself: even if you reject later writers, how closely do your interpretations with regard to tradition accord with those of St. Ignatius of Antioch, St. Polycarp of Smyrna and St. Clement of Rome?
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    >>25264542
    Because even when people do what does not please Him, He uses it to serve His purpose.
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    >>25264573
    That does not answer the question.
    Furthermore, it would merely make God both a liar, due to your argument implicitly claiming that the Church did indeed fall away, and the author of confusion, which would simply be another system level defeater for Christianity by its own standards.
    Answer the question.
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    do you ever feel like god doesn't hate you rather it is completely indifferent to your existence
    maybe god is here and there but doesn't really care
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    >>25264604
    This is the answer I have for you: the authority I listen to is God alone and His one and only Son. He is my only teacher, and He did not teach me to worship Mary or any of the other abominations these people love to do.
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    >>25264626
    That does not help you. Nor does a tu quoque about Mary because again, I'm only arguing about existent Church tradition from the Apostolic to early post-Apostolic era of about 33 to 150 AD.
    Do you deny that Christ gave the Apostles authority to teach and appoint successors?
    If you do, are you not calling Christ a liar?
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    >>25264661
    I have already told you everything you need to know. Go ahead and judge me by what I have already said. But if my words are true, know that it is not me alone you are judging.
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    >>25264677
    Your answer is in contradiction.
    You say you submit to the authority of Christ.
    Christ gave authority to the apostles to teach and cultivate the Church in His absence.
    How are you not damning yourself by not accepting the Apostle's appointed successors?
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    >>25264622
    test
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    >>25264690
    Now putting words into my mouth is indeed a sin. Anyone who has a problem with my original post does not know Him.
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    >>25264712
    >This is the answer I have for you: the authority I listen to is God alone and His one and only Son.
    This is you saying you submit to the authority of Christ.

    Christ gave authority to the apostles to teach and cultivate the Church in His absence.
    Or did he not?
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    >>25264725
    "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."

    You love to do mental gymnastics for tradition instead of listening to the words of Jesus. Know that God knows what you are doing.
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    >>25264751
    Just answer the question, please.
    Christ gave authority to the Apostles to teach and cultivate the Church in His absence.
    Or did He not? If he did, are those not the words of Jesus as well?
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    >>25264766
    "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."

    Your religions are not of the truth. Go and read the teachings of Jesus and then tell me where He commanded you to appoint popes and worship Mary and do all kinds of rituals and build churches made out of marble and gold. You will not find it, because He never commanded it, yet this is what people have chosen over Christ.
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    >>25264785
    I'm not talking about popes or worship of Mary.

    I'm referring to Christ's own words with regard to the authority bestowed by Him unto the Apostles.
    Did He or did He not grant authority to the Apostles to teach and cultivate the Church?
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    >>25264520
    Damn, I didn't know je could do that
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