Do you guys have any tips to heal angry people?What is in an angry person's heart? Do they need to learn something, or do we keep pushing their boundaries in ways that make them upset? Are they too impatient to listen, or have they been ignored for too long?Do you guys know any angry people? An angry person erased some of my boundaries, so I can't feel upset, even though deep down I have been violated and I will never forget this. My heart will never change and they cannot erase my entire life no matter how hard they try.Genies cannot grant love potions. Control and domination will not win true love. And true love is a thing that is so valuable that it cannot be bought with money.I can't even describe true love because of the boundaries they have erased. It was never a game to me. It was their game that wasted years of my life, a sickening indulgence, and they have the gall to spread rumors to people that call me a parasite about it, every day.It's not down to earth or "reality" to have loveless sex, although an angry person will not know. They excommunicate themselves with their anger. Maybe one day they will calm down and let go of their grudges and anger, to play with people who don't tolerate such abuse. With people who can give them what they need.
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>>25258927The answer lies in the teachings of Albert Ellis and Alfred Adler. Anger, including righteous indignation, usually means something the person values feels threatened or violated. Neither assumed society or the majority is automatically right. Adler stressed the courage to be disliked: the individual may be correct.The person on the receiving end can show real concern for the other’s concerns without adopting their conclusions or dropping their own boundaries. They can practice unconditional other-acceptance and drop perfectionism toward both the angry person and themselves. Clear limits can still be held.The angry person can check whether their intensity still serves what they care about or has hardened into demands that isolate them. They can claim the courage to be disliked while also accepting human fallibility.Neither side has to declare the other right. Real regard cannot be forced. It only appears where both remain free to choose it.
>>25258927**Instances of not separating tasks:**- “Do you guys have any tips to heal angry people?” Healing their anger is their task.- “Do they need to learn something, or do we keep pushing their boundaries…” Whether they learn and how they respond is theirs.- “An angry person erased some of my boundaries, so I can't feel upset…” Their erasure is their behavior. Reclaiming the right to feel is yours.- “They excommunicate themselves with their anger. Maybe one day they will calm down…” Whether they calm down or drop grudges is their task.- “to play with people who don't tolerate such abuse. With people who can give them what they need.” Finding people who meet their needs is theirs.**How to improve the relationship (if wanted)**Separate the tasks.Your tasks: hold clear boundaries, feel your own feelings, protect your dignity, decide the contact you allow, and choose whether to hold unconditional confidence in them. That confidence is yours alone. It does not depend on their behavior.Their tasks: their anger, their choices, and whether they want to improve the relationship. If they do, they cannot do so without giving you more chances—stopping the boundary erasure, the rumors, and the control.Once tasks are separated, both remain free. If they never decide to improve or never give more chances, that result stays theirs.
>>25258927Well, don't go around touching people like Jesus did. You'll get arrested
>>25258927The root of anger is injustice and unfairness. You heal anger by allowing it to motivate you to change the situation which is unjust or unfair.
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>>25258927Everybody is angry nowadays, and their anger must be directed toward the people who cause it - Jews. >>25258932Yep, and one thing that any American (and also in many other countries) can do, safely and legally, is Stochastic Countersemitism. It is very satisfying, especially if you manage to make a Jew cry or run away. I've already had 3 Jews run out my gym crying.
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>>25258929>>25258930Thanks. They invade my privacy and call me fake. I don't have space to think. Everything I say, even if it's basic advice, is called lies. Your advice helped a bit.
>>25258937Even when I say what they do is sexual misconduct, they say the opposite of what I say. Last night they kind of stopped a bit but, I worry, and it's still difficult to communicate with them. I want to ask what I did wrong.
>>25258938This sentence isn't expressing what I meant clearly.I told them to stop sexually harassing me period. But they may or may not listen.
>>25258927anger borderlines retardationanger matrix is made from rational and irrational anger (behavior) crossed by temporary anger and permanent anger ( causes )
>>25258939They complain every day on my behalf, they keep trying to explain, but it's hard for them to explain it, because they are scared of saying certain things, so I just look like the bad guy in the end, and it just seems like something to justify my demise, and they said that, and I asked why, but it's because they say the guy who traps others like that deserves some sort of payback, but they flipped the names and think I deserve the payback when I am the person who was a victim of it.
>>25259323And after I talk about this stuff, they say, I am complaining when it's too late, as if I was the perpetrator who is trying to do damage control. The people who complained too much ignored timing and it's really weird, no one gets feedback and they are trapped in this harassment chamber. It's really awful. I can't give them feedback because I am trapped behind a firewall, so I only get clues but I can't tell them to stop. I tried but it didn't get through. The guy who was using me last week used one guy's frustration and I was stuck in between them so the energy kept me saying stuff and complaining in the hopes that they would stop. But the complaint is useless! The bad guy uses it for his advantage, and they tell me negative things all the time. I wish they would tell me directly to leave instead of do these crazy hurtful things.
>>25259346One guy hated me and thought I didn't deserve any love in my life. I can't tell if its because of romantic ideals or if they are crazy or if I am missing something terrible about myself.Every day I spend with my head in the clouds, the sadder I get. I keep forgetting to exercise. I can't do work. I can barely concentrate when people speak. i feel trapped.
They constantly have these conversations that are fabricated because they figured out what some people react to and just tell them those ideas to get them to react at certain times.
Then a guy gets scared they will throw out all of their work after when there are complaints, because it gets too complicated. They wanted to objectively assess a situation and morality, I think. But they keep throwing it away and someone benefits from the loss of morale and energy. That person wants to cause them suffering. I dont know what to say to persuade them.
>>25259412The guy who complains all day sometimes interrupts attempts to engage the situation and solve it by accidentally breaking their concentration. So it's just so disorganised and sad
There was a guy that got mad at me for interrupting their concentration when I spoke to people in real life. I cannot be used like a computer for the rest of my life. They use my mind too much and don't make appointments. I thought they were unreasonable. They had several months of my time when I was alone. And it didn't really go anywhere. I was exhausted by the constant mental harassment.
They seem to send my complaints to people who get emotionally affected by them. I don't know if they need to hear it or if they hurt innocents that cannot do anything. Texting on the internet to holes that no one read is different than telling it to a stranger who doesn't know the context.
setting boundaries isn't an assault on another person, although boundaries in themselves are fluid and they can can in fact be an assault on another person. War and peace, like that. Does that make since.
I don't think it's fair to compare people who have sexual thoughts to people who physically rape people.It's Orwellian to punish the first with rape, because, you can still persuade them to love. The second is a criminal, it's more difficult.Some insensitive person wants to hold me accountable and it's frustrating the way it's done. I am not trying to make excuses but doing rape for several years!?!?!? I think they are trying to hold the "rapist" accountable, but why is that guy stuck here!?!? is that person stuck or doing it willfully?
In law a man is guilty if he commits a crime, in ethics he is so by merely thinking it or however he said itthat is one of the loading screen quotes in toral war: empire
>>25259723Yeah. We have to hold ourselves accountable, or find a friend to keep us accountable.But to punish someone so harshly for it? It becomes an unethical act in itself.
>>25259747crime and punishment, war and peace, much ado about nothing.
When people hate education because it socially "stunts" people, it is a lazy correlation. WHY CANT WE ACCEPT PEOPLE AS THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS GRUDGE IS MADNESS, MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!! THE SOCIAL PROBLEM DROVE HIM MAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY GOOD NESS!!!! SOLVE IT IN PEOPLE YOU CAN TALK TO, I JUST SEE HIM AS A CRIMINAL WHO GOT MAD IT DIDNT WORK OUT!!!! THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!!!!
I don't feel like I have psychosis but how does psychosis feelmaybe just one aspect of me has the psychosis and the others don't Am I mentally retarded, cause I feel pretty fuckin retarded right nau
>>25259808If not me, than who? At least this guy doesnt hurt others, if I am the only victim. But still. It is a scenario that causes suffering because he doesnt ask. He should learn how to ask. Then less people would get hurt. Survival guilt. etc.The difference between an abusive critical mind and a good critical mind. When we are kind towards our friends mistakes. He calls it corruption. It is civility and honesty. Anger and negativity is not necessary objective.
My hypothesizes about cartoon villains were made in isolation, but to keep a negative guy negative (esp when trapped with him) because I am afraid of disrupting the purity of people's existence, is probably bad.... too many slurs.... they are trapped and angry....
Bro............ I got punished for running away... this is a freaking cult, not a justified punishment, because they never got my commitment anyways and confused me so much. Calling a punishment hell is PROBLEMATIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bro my good mindset is now with a guy they call a complaining baby, but still. I wasted many years on sadness and confusion. I could have avoided the hell if I understood what they meant. I am agnostic and confused. I endured okay for a couple of years, but at this point, its just freaking crazy the lengths they went to abuse an ignorant person, and then rhey blame me for not solving my ignorance, and it's like, it's your thing. You know whats going on. but they didn't talk to me much until I complained this year, and it's just crappy. He thinks testing people as they are, as a sort of "judgement day", creates more "pure" reactions, but... even if they were prepared, they are only tested for how much they know. He was mad my focus was not on politics when that never was my interest.
It's like when people develop mental illness, it's a mix of environment and genetics. Why stress out people at risk and be the reason why their mental health gets worse. Test people who's mental health is very stable. It's too dangerous otherwise. He thinks my inability to find help is a me problem. Does he know where to go if he lost his mind? Would it be successful? Does he even know how it impacts people?
They turn them into sex slaves!!! It has nothing to do with objective morality. THey are doing an evil act!
It still goes into, people want to cause a downfall, and someone lies on my behalf, and it stays in this constant stalemate. It confuses me how someone can put active effort in this total waste of time, for myself and for themself as well. There's more to life than this. I want to study, I want to remember people's names. This person has nothing to live for and finds it entertaining to throw me in the dirt every day. They are lunatics.
>>25259842You're okay.
people choose to be angry not the other way around, that's all im saying.
>>25259946If you are trained you choose. But if you are not you don't choose, esp in situations that require endurance.
>>25260157They had to endure a white b-word crapping up their chat group. Unimaginable.
Leave them alone.
>>25258929interesting... I will think about this more when I am less eepy
