If you found someone like Tarzan would it be ethical to keep him as a pet? Is he an animal?
Doesn't he end up speaking fluent English at some point in the books, I forget whether he stops speaking like a caveman in the movie though
>>5169597parrots can speak english though, and monkeys can communicate in ASL.
>>5169598Wait I know there's cats with like>various sponge board things you can link together like a puzzle>different buttons on them that say different words>"no" "food" "angry" etc>aside from some hiccups it works surprisingly wellexcept that might be an exception because cats keep people as petsSpeaking of book-related master/slave "is it human" relationships, iirc part 3 of Gulliver's Travels is one where horses are the masters and people are the animals and it was really off-putting, I assume it was a metaphor for slavery (and that it's bad)But I guess define "pet" though, is it a friend you care for and love, or is it closet to a slave kept for entertainmentIs it ethical to enslave Tarzan? Don't they enlist him in the fucking French secret service or something?
>>5169601>But I guess define "pet" though, is it a friend you care for and love, or is it closet to a slave kept for entertainmentWhatever the common definition of "pet" is where you live. Around me, they don't refer to their dogs as "slave" but maybe it's the same.>Is it ethical to enslave Tarzan? Don't they enlist him in the fucking French secret service or something?That was after he got turned into a real human
>>5169605>Whatever the common definition of "pet" is where you live.I'd have to ask the next time I'm working out at the library>Around me, they don't refer to their dogs as "slave" but maybe it's the same.I want Jane to enslave me but I get what you meanI sometimes do feel bad about domesticated animals, like I'm sure army dogs and war horses share close bonds with their masters and are happy to help, but I feel bad that we've taken otherwise peaceful and safe animals and had/have them put their lives on the lineTangential: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN9pmtj82ok>That was after he got turned into a real humanSo then there's a point where you can't keep him as a pet, even though it sounds like the government did so anyway
>>5169614we are all pets of israel at the end of the day
>>5169616>go into a pet general>expect photos of cats and dogs and the occasional oddity like a flamingo or something>it's just a /soc/ thread where we post photos of ourselvesSad
>>5169598they just mimic, they don't understand.
>>5169596This sounds gay and therefore unethical. What meaningful difference does this have from having a retarded friend, except now you’re obligated to care for them since they’re your pet?
>>5169597He was raised by gorillas. He starts speaking English later but he doesn't become civilized overnight. He's still less than human.
>>5169668retarded people are also kept like pets, good point.
>>5169699why?
>>5169753He doesn't know about human rights, if someone were to catch a tarzan and keep him in a cage he wouldn't understand why it was wrong
>>5169755But you and most other people do.
>>5169718>>5169753sametroon
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>>5169699Wait so when does become human, if ever
>>5169806getting cucked by Jane at the end was a very human experience
>>5169809Ok but enough about you'reself
>>5169806That happens pretty early on. Tarzan is a British aristocrat, immortal, has discovered like twenty lost cities and also keeps a lion as a pet. He's even traveled through time and space in continuation novels. There's not much he hasn't done.
>>5169920>immortalWait whatYou can't keep an immortal as a petYou can't even keep one in generalOr as an admiral>He's even traveled through time and space in continuation novels.Nigga (non-pet, affectionate), you are describing at least a minor godWhat is happening
>>5169920Isn't the whole appeal that he's a semi-human wild man? What were they thinking?
Never read or watched Tarzan. My understanding is only through what I’ve seen online. Do they explain why a baby raised by chimps can speak English or doesn’t die of the hundreds of diseases that monkeys go through?
>>5169987He learned to read from books left on the island during the crash, when he met Jane he knew how to write but not how to speak.
>>5169990How the fuck did he learn how to read? It doesn’t come out of thin air, you don’t learn from actual novels or books. There’s a reason babies and children learn English from simple words to increasingly complex ones.
>>5170002He is characterized as being a genius despite his humble beginnings. There was a baby book or something that taught letters or whatever as well.
>>5170002Maybe monkeys are just really good at teaching humans English
>>5170002in the disney movie he is taught english by the girl, he is motivated bcs he wants to fuck
>>5170089Monkeys aren’t even good at teaching other monkeys.
>>5170232Not with that attitude
>>5169598Monkeys and gorillas doing ASL was disproven like 10 times over. They dont know ASL they know that copying those movements gets them rewarded, and with coco they were even caught doing a bunch of attempts and cutting footage to make coherent phrases and stuff. Most animals are smarter than we think but structured language outside of humans is essentially impossible.
>>5170480Did you conveniently forget many species of birds have structured songs with syntax?
>>5170480Dolphins would disagree.
>>5170519incredibly misleading desu
>>5170480>Monkeys and gorillas doing ASL was disproven like 10 times over.In a row?
Monkeys are dumb as shit. Tarzan’s exploits in the books are peak fiction because you have someone raised by chimps abandoning everything about his origin to end up as an abnormally strong but otherwise normal human. It’s the same as super soldier serum capeshitters love. The degree of superhuman ability depends on whatever the writer wants in any given scenario.
>>5170653Ok so is it wrong to have super soldiers as a pet>The degree of superhuman ability depends on whatever the writer wants in any given scenario.For Tarzan? Do you have any examples?Tangential but American slavery always baffled me a bit. They outnumber you six million to one and they're twelve times your size. If my gardener slave was a giganigga and his punches could turn human bones from solid to liquid, I'd be calling him "sir" if I passed by him
>>5169596I like the anons who forgot or don't know that Tarzan is a white man and are talking about him like he's an animal or non-white.
>>5170706Indian post
Son of Man is a banger
>>5169598Shit, the monkeys in the city speak a primitive form of English these days
>>5170706The only way to have a pet is by an implicit understanding of dominance. How exactly do you do that for a super soldier that could break you in half like a twig?
>>5170865>is by an implicit understanding of dominanceOk but then this doesn't explain white women fucking dogs
>>5170865>>5170867Or slavery for that matter
>>5170867What the fuck does that have to do with anything
>>5170869Well they're not being very dominant with their pets if they're getting fucked and knotted by them, are they
>>5170868Slave owners had guns.
>>5170893What if they can outrun it though
>>5170934Then why didn’t they?
>>5170769Phil Collins was the only good part of that movie.
