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    Why wouldnt this work
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    Laboraty log e-2, hopefully the mega deadly killer butterfly doesn't escape its containment cell after we've given it both an aerosolized rabies virus strain and increased tumorous cell growth hormones, that would fucking suuuuuck
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    >>5168666
    caterpillar doesn't actually become a complete pile of goop, some organs remain intact
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    >>5168668
    Laboratory Log E-3
    pollen
    itchy
    necter
    tasty
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    >>5168669
    That's not true at all. Google it. Entirely goo. It's pretty wild.
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    >>5168666
    It does and has
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    It's totally impossible nobody has ever done that and nobody has ever tried it
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    Beetlemaxxing is antisemetic
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    >>5168692
    kek
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    >>5168669
    >>5168696
    >>5168697
    birdposters
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    >caterpillar is liquid
    what?
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    >you will never take a sip from the caterpilk
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    >>5168666
    Does the brain become goop too?
    Is metamorphosis an actual death of the self, and another ego get birthed from what is effectively your corpse?
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    >>5168694
    false
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    >>5168694
    No it's not. If you cut open a caterpillar near the end of its growth you can literally find the already developing wings inside of it.
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    >>5168872
    There's research showing that moths retain at least some memories of their lives as caterpillars.
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    >>5168886
    They certainly don't remember how windows or lamps work
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    >>5168666
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    >>5168893
    What the fuck...........
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    https://www.neperos.com/article/qt3o6y46c924d4c2

    an interesting article about a whacky metamorphosis experiment
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    >>5168666
    lets assume the absolute best case scenario that it did work, what would come out would be a nonfunctional organism. The wings would not be able to carry its weight.

    Ofc it would never get that far.
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    >>5169065
    Uh.
    I always assumed the goop was sorta re-homogenized inside and just used as nutrients for the new thing, kinda like an albumen.
    Looks like the segments are still "there" even if melted, if they turn into their proper adult counterpart instead of the entire thing re-doing the full differentiation and resulting in a tiny but full adult.
    Gruesome but good experiments.

    Now I wonder if there are any archaic metamorphosis pathways in vertebrate/mammals, or if the entire machinery for it was developed after we branched off.
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    >>5169075
    Well, according to google, the short answer is no.
    The long answer is "yes, but only with lame-ass and useless results no matter what you try".
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    >>5168893
    Not gonna lie the goo looks like candy here.
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    >>5168668
    There used to be a Disney ride with this exact premise but it got shut down for being too scary.
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    >>5169065
    neat and educational, thanks
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    >>5169075
    There was a study some years back that showed that some butterflies retained "memories" from when they were caterpillars.
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    >>5168893
    >It's still moving as it gets devoured
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    caterpillars and butterlies being the same animal is one of those obvious things that I consciously know but it's always so goddamn weird to think about
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    >>5168666
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    No.
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    >>5168666
    brb I'm climbing in
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    >>5168692
    Underrated post
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    >>5168892
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    >>5169065
    >literal fucknugget breeding
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    >>5169477
    ha
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    >>5168893
    I can't believe I'm an adult and I did not know it looks like this inside. I thought it gradually grows and loses parts like how mutation is depicted in popular media.
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    >>5168893
    At least the dubious little creature is having a great time! The half formed butterfly, not so much.
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    >>5168893
    don't know how to feel about this...
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    this thread just ruined butterflies for me
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    even if it did, the poor thing wouldn't be able to breathe due to how their respiratory system works. there's reasons why arthropods don't get that big, man.
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    >>5168666
    Because they would die, if they didn't it would give all of them super mega Giga cancer and they would die in short order before developing. If you could somehow clone the DNA goop it would still fail, if that somehow got to maturity it would die because there is not enough oxygen to support it.
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    >>5168666
    Everyone here is such a cunt. This would obviously fucking work and they’re too afraid to try. The elites don’t want you to try either
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    >>5169065
    This is very interesting and also makes me want to throw up.
    >A fatal flight concluded the experiment. The third pupa, which has become a butterfly, extends its wings and flies away. Although the two sections of the body had developed, the delicate fabric bridge within the tube broke and the insect fell to the ground and died.
    okay yeah definitely gonna throw up
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    >>5169065
    why did they use a moth and then call it a butterfly over and over
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    >>5168666
    this is how you summon perfectly ultimate great moth irl
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    >>5170241

    Its an albino sugar glider. See the wing membranes
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    >>5168694
    I googled it, and the other guy was right. You're a fucking retard
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    >>5169065
    >or if the entire machinery for it was developed after we branched off.
    Well yes, because that kind of metamorphosis is entirely unique to insects and even then only some of them.
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    >>5170291
    Breathing is not what limits arthropod size, this has been debunked for years now. It's the exoskeleton, specifically the need to molt.
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    >>5169065
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    >>5170687
    In order for the change from a caterpillar to a butterfly to take place within the pupa, the caterpillar begins releasing enzymes that literally digest nearly all of its own body. What’s left inside the chrysalis is mostly just a very nutrient rich soup from which the butterfly will begin to form.

    It was thought until very recently that the caterpillar was completely converted to goo, excepting certain special cells necessary to create the butterfly body parts. This idea has recently been debunked with researchers at Georgetown University proving that moths retain at least some of the memories they had when they were caterpillars. For this to be the case, at least some of their memory storing neurons must survive the enzyme digestion process. Further, these neurons must somehow be incorporated into the moth or butterfly’s brain, which is quite a bit larger and more complex than a caterpillar’s brain.

    Also left within the goo are very tiny imaginal disks, which are similar to embryonic cells. These disks are actually present within the caterpillar its whole life, but they stop growing at a certain point in the caterpillar’s development and only start again when it is time for the caterpillar to morph into a butterfly. Once the proper time comes, the imaginal disks use the nutrients from the digested body of the caterpillar as they form into different parts of the butterfly’s body, with different disks forming into different tissues. For instance, there are imaginal disks that will form the legs, antennae, specific organs, etc. of the butterfly. There are even four imaginal disks that form wings. If one of these forming wings is removed, the other three will simply adapt to form bigger wings to compensate for the loss of the one wing.
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    >>5169065
    >>5170810
    This is just telling me Josef Mengele did not 8n fact die in '79 but kept living and eventually became an entomologist
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    >>5169065
    me on the right
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    >>5170637
    The little guy really thought he made it
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    Seriously, wtf was wrong with this person?
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    >>5169065
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    >>5168695
    proofs?
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    >>5170939
    I mean, SOMEONE's gotta uncover all the secrets of lepidopteran metamorphosis, if he didn't someone else would
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    >>5170861
    Anon, those are photos in a textbook from the 60s, Mengele was alive and well when those were published.
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