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Ashes to AshesDust to Dust
>>291950002Evil cannot createIt can only destroy
>>291950115Apparently it cannot even let alone. What could possibly be needed in what is clearly a low-rise area more than a local landmark of a titan of national art?
>>291950002Why? DBZ is still producing money
Surely that's some engagement bait title, right?Must be his older house house. His last house must be worth millions, there's no reason to demolish it.
>>291950165japanese people are evil
>>291950187Just like with the Haruhi school.
>>291950165I remember reading something about japan constantly demolishes and rebuilds older houses
>>291950187They are, but come on. It's just a fuckin house.
>>291950165Shueisha and Toei have the rights over Dragon Ball. Toriyama was a genius but he didn't know how to negotiate and Dragon Ball was producing so much money that even a small fraction of the profit was more than enough for what he needed to raise a family
>>291950219Got to keep the construction industry employed
>>291950002Good riddance. Honestly it was past due to do this and I was beginning to get twitchy
>>291950002This is how it's done in Japan. They don't build things to last. When foreigners started renovating old properties, the Japanese thought they were insane.
>>291950346thispretty much the only things that get renovated are landmarks and cultural properties (like big temples or Tokyo Tower)
>>291950346>your nation's most famous artist in all of its history>not a landmark
>>291950002The Japanese don't have nearly the same hangups about preservation that we do in the west.
>>291950380>you're famous, now everything you ever touched is a tourist traputterly soulless way to conduct a culture. Just build a monument
>>291950386You'd think since they preserve all these old traditions that they would care more about keeping other bits of history, but nope.
>>291950397How is it soulless to preserve the workspace of your most famous guy for your future generations to contemplate?
>>291950380Actually, Hokusai hated cleaning so he just left his house and moved whenever it became too dirty or cluttered. Or to escape debt. He did this a lot.
>>291950397ayo, this nigga loves public modern art.
>>291950002I always expected Toriyama to live in a bigger house but it seems he was screwed by Shueisha
>>291950480It's a big place for such a poor island.
>>291950424A lot of the japanese "tradition" were adopted during the meiji restoration to give that very same impression. tea ceremony, bushido etc, all that stuff was adopted, reformed to fit a unified vision of the country, i remember reading something about how they view archeological study etc with a bit of wariness since it could pretty much shatter this idea of unified nation.
>>291950380>>291950425>Akira Toriyama sat around drawing and writing in this very roomHe's not Hitler, Jesus or Jesse James. What's the appeal of that?
It seems this was all approved by whoever took over Bird Studio, whatever demon that is
>>291950509He may be the most famous Japanese person born in the second half of the 20th century.
>>291950270>>291950219It’s a Shinto thing from the deep, deep past, likely even the Paleolithic indigenous culture that left behind mound tombs and a few other things before the Japanese culture recognized today came over from the mainland. In any case, the Traditional way does revolve around rebuilding wooden structures entirely anew rather than preserving them indefinitely. Older shrines actually had paired locations that were used cyclically with a new building put on one spot while an older building was left to be reclaimed by nature, cleared, and built anew at the other site.
>>291950509>all irrelevant jobber than got killed
>>291950533Do Toriyama's children get anything?
>>291950550maybe when you live in an earthquake hotspot, you naturally develop a culture of ephemerality
>>291950533>>291950572Turns out his bitch wife is who destroyed it.
>>291950187All people are evil
>>291950002That's none of our business
Anon is taking this personally.
>>291950002Wait, what? Couldn't it be made into a museum or something?
>>291950593Damn right. Even zoomers like you would have grown up with dragon ball content.
>>291950548But he didn't do anything interesting.
>>291950550Kofun period (where the mound tomb started popping up en masse) is like 300-500 years old. It's funny you mention it because Japan also forbid any type of archeological excavation or analyses of these tombs.
> Be Japan> Make houses that last a certain amount of time and then get demolished so they don't end up with the retarded real state bubble of other countries that causes nobody to be able to afford housing> Also get your population into shrinking just for extra supply> Americans seeing a house being demolished: AHHH THE HORRORLmao. Toriyama lives on through his works, not by some pieces of wood to turn into a tourist attraction
>>291950580You have to destroy the structure to sell the property. That's why so many homes are cheap in those isolated villages; the people want to escape the tax burden.
>>291950622How much could ~10 houses per century in a nation of over 100 million people possibly cost homeowners, fag-kun?
>>291950219Part of the culture as other anon pointed outhttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-japanese-shrine-has-been-torn-down-and-rebuilt-every-20-years-for-the-past-millennium-575558/
>>291950219Japan does not like the idea of moving into an older house. They have some superstition similar to what we would call a haunting, but it's not really a haunting. It's more that the house just isn't their own and can never be theirs. So when someone buys a house, they either remodel it fully or demolish and rebuild. Surprisingly this keeps the cost of houses pretty low because there isn't a lot of demand for keeping an old house.
wooden construction is legally worthless on paper after 30 yearsthat doesnt mean jap arent just living in these houses or demilitioing them one day after 30 years
>>291950653Well, the land is what's valuable.
>>291950643You speak like it was the state that demolishes the houses and not the owners/inheritors.
>>291950664Depends on the land. Keeping houses from appreciating keeps something from happening like some hobo shack in California costing ~2M, because people can't pawn that off as appropriate housing for the neighborhood. Has the double effect of keeping every building up to code.
>>291950643if everyone is rebuilding a house, then the supply of people who construct houses is up. So the costs go down.
>>291950621>like 300-500 years oldThe Kofun period was about 300-500 AD anon, that's 1500-1700 years ago.
>>291950688i mean 300-500 years CE my bad.
>>291950688No, it's actually 80 AD and mere decades have passed since the death of Christ. Time isn't real
>>291950144gotta create space for more data centers
>>291950740So it's all true ? Otto III and pope Sylvester II scammed us like this ?!
>>291950740Time is real because it can stop and will cease to exist.
>>291950582No just you.
>>291950576I think it’s probably more likely just to ensure that you’re always building something wooden to spec from scratch instead of being lazy about patching and reinforcing until it becomes a hazard. Especially the crazy bastards living in the north who had to invent structures that wouldn’t collapse with heavy snowfall. >>291950621Those larger mounds and the boom of building them coincide with the migration from the mainland that also brought over Chinese script and all the other influences. The “historical Japan” and the state that exists today is essentially a Chinese colony that took over the islands, that’s why archaeology on this period in particular is so toxic.
>>291950653My japanese family has a second house, nobody "lives" there though my brother-in-law is introverted and goes there to work on his laptop sometimes. It's very old, you can literally fall through the floor in some places. You can feel the floorboards warp underfoot as you walk, and the kitchen is completely slanted. My wife absolutely refuses to ever stay the night there because ghosts.
>>291950002"Bird Studio" is not an actual studio, it's just what Toriyama called himself when it was relevant to speak as a company rather than a person. It never had any employees or anything, it was just him.
>>291950805>Introverted Nice definition of that word you have there
>>291950870What?
Dragonball monkeys, you're never going to Japan, so you'd never be able to check out his toilet anyway.
>>291950606I'm 31. I grew up with this. Had the entire series on vhs. I just got better things to worry about.
>>291950900Zoomer
>>291950497not so much adopted but standardized from the top-down, the same happened with religion
>>291950509> Jesse JamesWho?
>>291950219>>291950270Land is really expensive in japan. They don't waste them on vacant buildings with zero historic value.
>>291950622>anon never heard of Tokiwa-so
>>291950165old houses legally depreciate to $0the value is in the land, not in the building
>>291950002Nothing lasts forever, we will all die. Enjoy being alive now.
>>291950975Rural land in Japan is exceedingly cheap. You can buy a parcel for practically pennies. This has become pretty well known over the past decade.
>>291950870nta, there's nothing wrong with his usage of introverted. If he wrote it as "my brother-in-law is an introvert," it would read a little more naturally and smoothly. But "introverted" also works and is grammatically correct.
>>291950944Some American cowboy outlaw and psychopath that only rednecks care about.
>>291950002Surely they could have sold it to a rich fan or something at least?
>>291950900You're literally the oldest zoomer anon, the youngest millennial is 32.
>>291951141that's even more disrespectful
>>291950759based
>>291951110>zoomer who doesn't like the government and social order, today: OHHHH BRAVE FREEDOM FIGHTER!!! HERO WHO STANDS UP AGAINST BASIC FUNCTIONING SOCIETY!!!>guy who didn't like the government and social order, back then: REEEEEE WHAT A PSYCHOPATH LOSER!!!! ONLY REDNECKS CARE ABOUT HIM!!!!
>>291950380>>29195042599% of foreigners are secondaries don't even care about DB manga, they only watched the anime. They also don't care that Goku was extremely famously voiced by a woman in Japan. Most only care about their own personal altered, derivative version, so I'm not too keen on listening to their opinions of what Japan ought to do.
>>291950789It worse than that, as the people who came to Japan likely did so from korea. They're like sibling cultures. Just don't tell them that.
>>291951252Take your meds, nobody mentioned any of that.
>>291950397You’re a retard. There’s nothing more soulful than old architecture being re used. This is why places like europe have maintained a distinctive character and most of japan is a soulless concrete ant hill
>>291951215Who are you quoting Cletus
Sure it's sad, but that's life. The houses and workplaces of plenty of other deceased mangaka are likely gone as well. When the mangaka is gone, sooner or later their next of kin will clear out their stuff and the place will be sold and repurposed. Which will entail being modified or demolished and replaced. Their workplaces aren't special enough or famous enough to be preserved as is indefinitely.
>>291951307Who cares what you mentioned? The whole point is you don't get a say, gaijin. Not your country, not your culture.
doesn't the family estate own them? that's history being destroyed right there. who knows what valuables are in there.
>>291950944>>291951110I'm not American. You are just historically illiterate.
>>291950580did she not get enough money from the inheritance?
>>291950622Americans are fucking retarded, they cannot fathom the idea that some land is no longer in use, so a new Japanese family should be able to purchase the plot for a fair price and build their home there. Every American boomer is hoarding a house, a beach house, a cottage, and a condo and the younger generations can't afford to live anywhere because boomers all refuse to sell. Japan doesn't have this idiotic problem.
>>291951462>who knows what valuables are in there.you don't take shit out of a house before you leave? I helped a friend clean up his dead grandma's condo to sell and we combed through every room for anything with either sentimental or monetary value, the only things left were literal trash
>>291951919Boomers run the world and if someone reposts what you said on facebook they might launch a crusade to destroy the japanese housing market, economy and the japanese people themselves. The only thing boomers hate more than their kids is being made fun of or belittled
>>291951462>who knows what valuables are in there.I think it's probably safe to assume anything of value would have been removed prior.
>>291951939Their culture's shit so that's a good thing
>>291952008I guess millennials didn't fall far from the tree
>>291950002>real estate speculator
>we gotta destroy this priceless historical artifact because we want to build a parking lotWhy is modern society retarded?Van Gogh or Shakespheres homes weren't impressive at the time, but you give it a few hundred years and they have a lot more name brand value. It's the same with all artistsDuring their own era it's just seen as "were demolishing this assholes house" but a hundred years from now it's seen as "I can't believe how stupid they were to do that"
>>291952258Toriyama is nowhere near that important of a historical figure.
>>291952291Agree, he is not Oda after all.
>>291952297Even less. MAYBE Tezuka.
>>291950424They are used to it. A single earthquake or typhoon and it all crumbles down.
>>291950550>even the Paleolithic indigenous culture that left behind mound tombs>left behindthis doesn't seem like something that supports your counterpoint when the anon you replied to was talking about how the japanese demolish and rebuildleaving behind mound tombs is a long-lasting thing
>>291950165japan's government forces you to pay for your inheritance tax the very moment the guy who received your inheritance from dies and it's usually an absurd amount too. There's no other way to sell any asset at lowball price (because people know you are desperate to not go into prison).
>>291951919the euros are also in a housing crisis anonjapanese boomers aren't exactly helping their country either but in other ways
>>291950380Would you rather his family approve of selling out his corpse?
>>291950533>>291950580Got any links? I recognize his son being responsible too.
I consider Toriyama a major inspiration, but I wouldn’t step foot in his house. He was a chain smoker. The interior is probably covered in thirdhand smoke residue.
>>291950002Good riddance. Now if we could just obliterate all traces of his shitty work.
Isn't benito mussolini's house a museum in Italy? I know I'm comparing a political figure to a manga artist, but the Japanese government declared Hello Kity a national icon along with Godzilla and Miku (IIRC)You'd think it could be a museum for a few hundred years so that people in the future could look at Dragon Ball and be like "This is one of Japan's most influential pieces of media all time."
>>291953054Japan doesn't care nearly as much as south america.
>>291950580Oh, then I guess it's fine. This is probably what Toriyama would have wanted.
>>291950580>>291950634You're wasting your keystrokes. No matter what government policy causes, no fact pattern can cause his ilk to veer from their worshipful attitude toward it. Even openly sadistic behavior would be blamed on the person drawing attention to it. This is a manifestation of the inherent slave nature of the goyim.
>>291950002Sorry anon, but that land look pretty nice to build a mosque
>>291950380His landmark is the body of his work, not the place where he took a shit or microwaved his ramen.
>>291950380His art is in his manga, not in the place he slept and shat.
had to do it or someone would have found the cp stash..
A...house? SERIOUSLY? How starved for engagement are YOU that you care about a house? You've to be STUPID. Lmao.
>>291950509>hitlerPawned by jew>jesusOwned by jew>jesseIdk whoToriyama at least leaving something memorable and make kids happy.
>>291950002fucking why? don't they have enough money?
>>291951462What kind of hell do thirdies live in? Do bulldozers just show up and tear their family houses down out of nowhere on a Monday morning?
>>291953054The Japanese government is retarded Toriyama's house would be a tourist attraction easily. Just like Dostoevsky is currently the naruto whirpools attract over 800k visitors yearly just because of Naruto manga. Why are they so dumb? I'm certain the land is not worth that much to do that
>>291953692>>291953759Appearntly Nips say its because of the high inheritance taxes
>russians, muricans, Italians and twitter tourists care about the house a guy used to microwave his ramen inNo wonder you browse twitter lol
>>291953833it's probably the "french" entirely.
>>291953833>>291953847soulless subhumans
>>291950115>>291950144>>291950165Bird Studio only existed for the sake of Toriyama.No Toriyama means no reason for Bird Studio to exist.>b-but local landmarks-The family and the people living there don't want that. Toriyama was ridiculously reclusive for a reason.
>>291950002Salt the earth too, just to be sure.
>>291950380>your nation's most famous artist in all of its historyOnly in third world shitholes.
>>291953568It's a nice house
>>291954516I didn't know Japan was a third-world shithole.
>Torishima, Toriyama's old editor is upset about itman
>>291954576>He really is gone, huh
/a/ feels like it's full of people who just hate mangaka and Japan in general now. I don't know when the hell this happened but it's more like twitter than a place that used to actually respect the people and places that gave us anime and manga in the first place.
>>291954610I just don't respect buildings
>>291954610Did you see twitter?Everyone hating on Japan are brown and blacks.Who do you think is posting on here?
>>291954647>I [am a twittertard tourist]We know.
>>291954654Anon, xittertards are more than likely to like and respect Dragonball.
>>291954610It's backwash from twitter. Once it became unmoderated, everyone started using our edgy lingo and humor. Now they treat both sites as if they're interchangeable.
>>291954610Contrarianism is the only thing that prevents turning this place into the echo chamber.Also have you actually read the thread before bestowing your valuable insights upon us?
>>291954647>t.a subhuman who still reads/watches shonen but shits on dragon ball for some reason
>>291950002While it might sound ludicrous to compare Toriyama to classical artists. But couldn't this be considered a cultural landmark? The guy was someone who pushed culture, and inspired thousands, childish culture or not.
>>291954554No one cares about DB in Japan.>>291954610shonenslop ruined /a/
>>291954754You have quite the active imagination to fabricate things that were never said or implied. Why do you waste your time reading shounenslop?
>>291954806>No one cares about DB in Japan.Dragon ball influenced the manga sphere you dumb faggot
>>291954516What Japanese artist is more famous than the dragonball guy? I think the only nips artists that reach mainsteam recognition internationally are the YGO guy, the ghibli guy, the pokemon guy and that woman who fucked John Lennon and ended the beetles.
>Toriyama died almost 3 years ago
>>291954856>the pokemon guyAn average person in the west doesn't know further than Pikachu.
>>291954825>Dragon ball influenced the manga sphereNot really.
>>291954911
>>291954856Tezuka, Hokusai, Hiroshige. There's a whole world beyond your stupid shonen trash
>>291954919change Naruto with Ninku
>>291950424It's exactly because they preserve so much other, older and more meaningful history, that they don't give a shit about little things like this. Where as we've thrown so much away that we can't help but cling desperatly to whatever straw may be floating by.
>>291954919>literally nothing but shonenslopThanks for proving me right.
>>291950002Toriyama would think this is funny
>>291950380I wonder if Osamu Tezuka's last house of living was preserved?
>>291954979>18th century woodblock artistsok gramps, time for bed.>>291955212who?
>>291950002>Daima was so bad they killed him, demolished his home and made Dragon Ball serious againfucking kek. thats what you get for ruining bardock
>>291950862Yeah, kinda like how Sora Limited is just Sakurai and his wife.Nothing to see here.
>>291950898I wanted to see Toriyama scat so much.
>>291954919>Kagarabachi>Naruto influence Bullshit
>>291955336Just watch DBS then.
>>291955115I see that you prefer Hamburger Shonens instead
>>291955354That's Toriyama piss though
>>291955368watch Daima then.
>>291955376>Diarrhea Ewwwww, not a fan of that kind of scat.
Most of their castles are modern replicas too.
>>291955070>change Dragon Ball with Dr.Slump
>>291954576I was hoping he had some money to keep the place open but his dumb family is just selling off shit
>>291954610The twitter tourism here is at an all time high don't be surprise if you see a fujo lashing out at you for liking something that isn't two twinks kissing their holes (see: the BNHA fandom)
>>291954825No dragon quest had more of a influenced
>>291955351https://anime.kagurabachi.jp/en/news/comments/
>>291955441>AI QuestDone.
>>291955441Dragon Quest still has a lot of people saying it's just Dragon Ball with swords & magic though.
>>291955459No one said that.
>>291954645>Everyone hating on Japan are brown and blacksThose are bots you retarded fuck and who gives a fuck on xitter.
>>291955441DQ isn't even as much of an influence as any Toby Fox feces thrown into the japanese audience nowadays.Pic related.
>>291955533Toby Fox is a fucking jew hack that can't come up with something original he rip off everything.
>>291950509>Jesse Jamesthose are Pokemon characters tho.
>>291955630a should ban that shit.
>>291950002For toriyama sin for flood anime and manga with shit worlders. Dragon ball will slowly be forgotten.
>>291954979Tezuka invented most of shonenisms though
>>291954663They're dunking on Dragon Ball almost every day despite being shonenbrown centralTwitter isn't one person>>291954685Bluesky isn't much different either
>>291954819>2000s animeSo still a subhuman and likely grew up with YouTube too.Don't bother proving otherwise.
Toriyama's wife must've been Frieza instead of Yu Kondo lol
Toriyama is dead so no more movies or new dragon ball manga. Most of the dragon ball fans are getting old and will start dying off in 10 or 20 years. And Dragon Ball will slowly be forgotten in the future.
Nah, 50 more years of Dragon Ball.
>>291955899Live forever Bleachking
>>291955899Glad Bleach is dead like Dragon Ball, never will i see you idiots ever again.
>>291954819>Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments>https://desuarchive.org/a/search/deleted/deleted/width/500/height/281/>about 6000 deletionsinb4 dragon ball shitteri am purely shitting on the fumblr tier gif nonsensewould do the same for streamshits
>>291950165These people are not as rich as you think they are. American small business owners are wealthier than the most highest selling manga authors.
>>291955996
>>291950115Tolkien didn't say that
>>291956013Are you doing a similar reply from another thread?
>>291956064Who are you quoting?
>>291956080I was going to call you an idiot, but I looked up the MD5 in the image I just posted, followed it to a different thread and found pretty much the same exchange. Some anon posted the meds image after someone pointed out deletions. This is the legit the first time I've posted that image, don't remember where I downloaded it from.Genuinely spooked. I'm getting out of here.
>>291956083i quoted a decade of no update for the site and it being hacked, honestly staying around seems like eating shit, similar to bothering with the low quality images>>291956113because you're just as retarded as the archived faggot is all
Who cares? The house wasn't relevant to the work at all just because he drew while living in it
>Toriyama himself wanted to be remembered for Arale, DQ, and the tailed boy that didn't do flying around and energy spam, and similar other work to what was given>No! Don't destroy the building that was related to muh flying (colored)hair changing faggot with energy spam!
>Toriyama was a smoker>Oda and Sorachi are as wellFairly scary I guess. Not that I really care for One Piece's end, it just has been too stretched out like muh rubber for it to really matter to me.
>>291950002https://x.com/KurtWillow28/status/2116085576898367765apparently, there's some foul play going on over this demolition. some people are speculating that Toriyama's wife is being swindled into giving up his properties. remember there's a dispute between Toriyama estate and Toei regarding Dragon Ball's rights.
>>291950944That guy who builds motorcycles.
>>291950944the pokemon duomeowth that's right
>>291955323Ironically or unironically
>>291955323And as stated by Sakurai himself, Smash is not a fighting game.
>>291950002Sounds fishy, but maybe they’ll build a proper museum in place of it. I know Japanese are superstitious as fuck about old houses someone died in.
>>291956180apparently the new Bird Studio CEO they call Mr. Ino cares about it.
>>291954610Most of these retards come from the plebbit boards (i.e. /pol/, /v/, /tv/, /co/, /r9k/) xitter screenshot threads.
>>291954610>/a/ feels like it's full of people who just hate mangaka and Japan in generalTourists (Especially from China and Korea) rreally hates it when you like Anime and Japan. It has to be negativity 24/7. I don't like Kimetsu but look at how much that series make people seethe just because it makes a lot of money
>>291954610You're no longer allowed to like Japan and Anime anymore because it would hurt other east asians feeling
>>291954610I respect Japan and Japan decided to demolish the house
>>291952258>priceless historical artifactLOL
>>291950002His family are okay with this so everyone should be.
>>291950150Oda is still mad>>291958996How much did they pay them/threatened them?
>>291955997that might be true for medium successful authors but for big ones like toriyama and oda and such, I doubt that's true. you'd have to have a revenue of over 50 millions dollars of revenue and that's way over what american small business owners have.
>>291959122Toriyama is recognized as Dragon Ball creator but the Dragon Ball IP belong to Shueisha and Toei
>>291950002the next objective is kurumada pro
>>291959176he's still getting a small percent of revenue and that is enough for him to be worth more than 50 millions
>>291959187Kurumada is the owner of his works. He made a deal with Shueisha after returning to the company in 2000. It all depend on his daughters. They may sell Kurumada Pro to Shueisha after Kurumada dies
>>291959192Yeah but that still little money compared to what Dragon Ball produces and that's not taking in consideration Toriyama's family is currently on a legal battle for copyrights. And it could be worse. After the global success of Saint Seiya and DBZ, Shueisha made abusive contracts to their new talent. That's why Kishimoto lives as upper-middle class despite all the money Naruto produces
What is it with Japan and their absolute hatred for dragon ball? It’s mistreated by Bandai, outright sabotaged by Shueisha, and Toei is very blatantly giving one piece “favorite child” treatment. I bet they’d never do this to Oda.
>>291959304Oda is the secret Boss. I remember when they caught Jump lying about OP numbers because kny outsold OP and they still pretend DB stopped selling since 2009
>>291959304>toriyama dies>toei immediately makes dragon ball serious againguess we know who was the problem now. probably was getting influenced by oda to not compete with one piece.
>>291959408That’s Akio too. He lied and said that DBS Beerus was the most Toriyama-accurate we could get, but you can take one look at it, and its lack (and removal) of gags, and the excessive VFX, and what they turned Beerus into and see that Akio made this for the western fanbase, more specifically, the tiktok edit, JJK brained strain of fans that want dragon ball to be a 24/7 aura farm and go into psychosis anytime they see goku being goofy
>>291955200Checked, and very likely true. At the very least he wouldn't have given a shit.
>>291959298he got scammed but he would never have gotten popular without jump / shueisha too
>>291959466I was asking myself why he even had to lie about that. Even a retard could see that DBS Beerus exists because it’s a fast and cheap way to hold fans over until Moro’s able to be marketed. And DB fans were going to eat it up regardless, he didn’t need to shamelessly push toriyama’s name, but he did it anyway.
>>291950509Jesse James didn't even manage to catch Pikachu from a 10 year old boy.
>>291959537Fuck that. I'm with Tezuka and Kurumada on this. Creators can create but execs can't create shit.
>>291950346Makes sense, their culture built stuff mainly out of wood for a good while till relatively recently so I imagine they have an easier time letting go of old buildings
>>291950165It's an eyesore and also people don't want to be known for living in some celebrity's old home, and that's why even MJ can't even sell his multi-million dollar mansion with his branding everywhere. It's like Guts and Griffith, do you want to be a Griffith fanboy or be your own man?
>>291956306I have a feeling someone is gonna get killed over this mess.
>>291950144To be fair, he ended up creating some of the worst cancer to come out of Japan, even if he was talented and creative back in the 80s.
>>291950509name 3 more famous illustrators of the XX century
>buildings have to be demolished! They are made out of wood!Bros, you realize all residential buildings in North America are built out of wood? With maintenance they last 100+ years.
>>291960370ez. He already listed Uncle Dolph.
>>291950975If this is true why there are so many empty houses?
If we had to leave every place something happened intact forever we would be living in Point Nemo right now.
>>291950002what a shame.
I feel like a lot of people here are hoarders or on their way to being hoarders.This wasn't a historic landmark. It isn't even the place where Toriyama originally drew manga, it was literally just a studio, a building where people clocked in to work all day and then clocked out at the end of the day, and at this point it had largely just been Toriyama's second home. It's possible that legal deals and matters involving art and manga didn't even occur there, and it's getting torn down because the guy is fucking dead. Your options from here are>A vacant lot nobody usesAs grand a waste of space that is.>Someone else buys itWhich would just be an excuse for someone to buy a plot of land in Japan for a billion dollars or something absurd and fetishize the remnants of Toriyama's life like he's a Christened Saint.>It's turned into a historic landmarkWhich nobody involved, either in his family or living in that area, would want.>It gets demolishedAnd there you have it.
>>291954113>Bird Studio only existed for the sake of ToriyamaAnd dragon quest
>>291955403No, he's right. DragonBall inspired Ninku, and Ninku was the reason why Naruto was made.
>>291950346>still use bridges that are over a thousand years old>don't build things to last
>>291950002Everything passes away.
>>291950653>It's more that the house just isn't their own and can never be theirs.When purityfaggotry goes too far. You don't need to be the one who claimed a house's virginity to truly own it, get real.
>>291964674If somebody wanted to buy it, I think they would have
>>291955357>capeshitThat's even worse
>>291959627this
japan doesn't have a preservation culture. they throw away everything that is complete original manuscript, code, animation cell, house of important people
>>291959627>Fuck that. I'm with Tezuka and Kurumada on this.If you actually knew Toriyama's history, you'd know that without Torishima, he likely would've just been a mechanic.He only submitted manga for competitions and came in last place usually.
>>291956306And what exactly would an old and abandoned decrepit house have to do with the rights to Dragon Ball? People just need to accept that the house is being torn down so that something else can be built on the property and not because of some criminal or conspiratorial actions taken by "evil" people
>>291954610>not caring about a house means you hate mangakas and japanWhat kind of mental illness leads to this line of reasoning?
>Land is really expensive in japan. They don't waste them on vacant buildings with zero historic value.Just go on street view in any town in japan and you'll find empty plots of land between buildings, then go back a few years and you'll find a building used to be there, demolished with nothing takings its place
>>291954610What else are people supposed to talk about in this thread?
>>291954919>there's a myth about Fairy Tail being inspired or influenced by One Piece. But there is no concrete source.Lucy in the early arcs of Fairy Tail is basically blonde Nami, lol; not to mention the overall tone of the series and the characterization. Maybe Mashima is just an insecure bitch like Kubo to admit it, but there was clearly an influence, you’d have to be blind not to see it.
>>291955115>Shonen takes influence from older shonenno shit. Do you expect someone to read dragon ball and go>This will make a good SoL shojo idea
>>291955533Toby fox's garbage is based off earthbound which is based off dragonquest.
>>291950219Older houses are a bitch to maintain, renovate and sell.
>>291950002It's normal in Japan for houses to be demolished and new one constructed in their stead when people move. They do it all the time.They do the same with shrines https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/this-japanese-shrine-has-been-torn-down-and-rebuilt-every-20-years-for-the-past-millennium-575558/
>>291968119...Yes?
>>291966111>they throw away everything that is complete original manuscript, code, animation cell,That's not remotely exclusive to Japan. You know how $$$ it is to store a lot of that stuff in a preserved condition & insured.
>>291964674Because if anyone did shitty renovations, paintings, furniture or other interior design choices you have to basically inherit it ir pay up to change it. Worse if the interior is stuck in the 80s/90s or key stuff like heating, wiring, lighting, water is totally fucked.
>>291950115There is a high bar to clear for a Japanese house to be historically relevant enough to not demolish. The average Japanese house is torn down after 30 years. Also, it was not the right neighborhood to put a museum.
>>291950002rip
>>291950002Bring it down
>>291969195Old houses in Japan suck
>>291950002Sad
>>291950550also inheritance tax is a bitch, so it's basically impossible for normal people to pass down property.
>>291951056because no one wants to live there. which is why no one does.
>>291950582How's it going Xunzi?
>>291950380>most famous artist in all of its historyHayao Miyazaki?
>>291950509Yes he fucking is. Goku deserves to be the fifth face on Mount Rushmore.
>>291972807
>>291954113>The family and the people living there don't want that.proof?
>>291950150>>291950144>>291950115ohhh because tourist spot>totally wrecked by inbound tourists thanks to the influence of some anime. Even this house has had inbound folks sneaking photos and posting them on YouTube without permission. Neighbors are getting filmed too. Demolishing it was the right call.https://x.com/reydovan/status/2116326994657034537
>Bird Studio is now registered in Tokyo>close to CCT>Iyoku is a part of board of directors
>>291973826Bird Studio Inc. public data:President: Toriyama YoshimiBoard of directors: Toriyama Sasuke, Watanabe Akio (known as Iyoku Akio), Kei Naito and Tetsuto Motoyasu
>>291973826>>291973839CCT, 3 directors / decision makers.Bird Studio, 1 president and 4 directors (3 from CCT).
>>291966111In this context? no, because >>291973794
>>291966111What your talking about it's old house's all over Japan.
>>291973608Considering the family owns it and let it be demolished, they didn't want that.And name a single fucking neighborhood in existence that wants a tourist attraction on their fucking street.
>>291974039>You can thank niggers and shit worlders for thatIt's all tourists retard.The most famous youtuber to do shit like this is a white guy who went around filming Japanese guys that killed themselves innawoods.
>>291974098Im a brown third worlder with below average iq and i have never expressed any interest in dragon scrotum so much so that i dont recall ever watching a singular episode of that crap in my entire glorious and meaningful life
>>291974298>And name a single fucking neighborhood in existence that wants a tourist attraction on their fucking streetSeveral homes are tourist attractions or specialist museums. The place in the OP wasn't even that important to Toriyama outside of work so it being a designated site or heritage destination makes little sense.
>>291974039>niggers and third worlds affording trips to japan>not mudricans
>>291972120> only about 10.4% of deceased estates end up owing inheritance tax.> For the small percentage of households that do pay, the average tax per taxable estate is around ¥19.46 millionIf the land is in some distant area or has limited housing value I can see why anyone would just sell it off.
>>291976912Keep coping bug lolEven Europoors are seen as worse tourists
>>291955212Tezuka has literal awards named explicitly after him.
>>291973794If this is the truth Yajuu's estate would be demolished decade ago.
>>291973794Why not just turn it into an actual tourist attraction like the tokiwa-so?
>>291950002No fucking way...
>>291950002Nobody cares about some dinky studio, building get build and demolished all the time, it's the actual work that got made in it that lives on in history
>>291979815Rumors say is part of the ongoing legal battle between Toriyama's family and Toei/Shueisha
>>291983704Then why do they have ancient palaces in the middle of the major cities?
>>291954628very third world post
>>291950002they need more housing for the increase in Japanese population
>>291950002Did he die?
>>291950002damn
>>291988689You're not gonna believe it
>>291950002I mean it was just the place where it was drawn.
>>291950550Rebuilding structures periodically makes sure construction skills are never lost to the next generation. This is a practical application of tradition
>>291950580>toriyama named his son sasuke
>>291966887Nami wishes she was 1/10th as good as Lucy. Nami is a side character in her own series nowadays.
>>291973794how did japan even manage to get nuclear reactors build with this much NIMBYism around...
>>291973794>kuso gaijin, coming into my country, taking.... taking PHOTO of houses.... WITHOUT permission! and posting on yuechube! dishonoraburu!!
>>291997559A few factors. First, most nuclear plants are at least somewhat removed from surrounding population centers. Second, they don't shit where the eat nearly as much as fossil fuel plants. Third, it was the Cold War and the Japanese government could just say "this plant is for national security so get bent". Fourth, Japanese power plants have an excellent safety record. They have their share of smaller incidents here and there but I'm pretty certain that since the number of elevens who have developed ANY sort of adverse health effect from their entire nuclear power industry is less than 100 and the number of deaths is around a dozen at most.Also worth noting is that the lethality of radiation in general is logarithmic which means that for nuclear power in particular you need to have a Soviet-tier fucky wucky for the wider public to be at even a nominal risk. There are plenty of lethal nuclear incidents where someone at ground zero of the incident died an agonizing death from ARS while other people 10 yards away experienced consequences ranging from an unexpected suntan to absolutely nothing.
>>291966887Fairly Tail and its over the top nakamanakamanakama babbling is so heavily "inspired" by One Piece it hurts.
