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Toc OUT
Descarass WON and kgb bottom again
1 ・ SAKAMOTO DAYS ・ DAYS 274 MULTIPLE CHOICES
2 ・ One Piece ・ Chapter 1192: WE WON'T STAND FOR IT!!!
3 ・ Akane-banashi ・ STORY 221: BACK
4 ・ Someone Hertz ・ #48: What Did You Say?
5 ・ Shinobi Undercover ・ CHAPTER 96: TOP-SQUAD ACES
6 ・ Me & Roboco ・ Chapter 296: Strength Training & Roboco
7 ・ Graykeith: Translator Daemonica ・ Chapter 1: Lamia's Grimoire
8 ・ WITCH WATCH ・ 261 BONE CRISIS 30
9 ・ The Ura Files ・ Report 2: Ura's Lunchtime
10 ・ Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi ・ Chapter 107: The Phantom of the Exorcist Academy
11 ・ Animal Signal ・ 13 AN ALPACA'S WEAPON OF CHOICE IS ITS SPIT
12 ・ Nue's Exorcist ・ CHAPTER 160: AS A SENPAI
13 ・ Hal Formula ・ CHAPTER 12: EARNED IT
14 ・ Cannon Master ・ CHAPTER 11: THE RIGHT TO BE AN APPRENTICE
15 ・ Class 2-B Hero Destroyerz ・ 19TH PERIOD: HONEY = DARLING = BANDIT
16 ・ Kagurabachi ・ Chapter 131: Tipping Point
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Yandere Descarass is hot
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>Seitei War Arc
>there's no war to be seen
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>>291932558
They keep shilling akanebanashilled with endless color pages, covers, and abnormally high toc, yet it still sells like shit.
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>another Kiyoshi CP
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>>291932891
Respect Oda's son desu
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Imagine being below Cannon Master.
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Kagurabachi is the new Undead Unluck
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>>291932558
>7 ・ Graykeith: Translator Daemonica ・ Chapter 1: Lamia's Grimoire
HEY GRAYKEITH, FUCK THESE DAEMONS UP
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WSJ #49 analysis: ToC, preorders, and October sales
The biggest story is the contrast between Kagurabachi's commercial strength and its ToC placement, alongside the continued strength of Ichi and Someone Hertz. The #49 rankings also give us the first ranked results for both Ura Files and Graykeith.
Kagurabachi finishing at #16 is the most significant result. This is now two consecutive declines from #7 in #47 to #14 in #48 and #16 in #49. That makes the #48 placement look less like an isolated dip.
However, its volume sales and anime announcement still make it commercially different from a typical struggling series. I'd now be more concerned about its recent editorial ranking trend, but I still wouldn't equate that with imminent cancellation.
The two new rankings
Graykeith at #7 is a strong first ranked result. It lands comfortably above the bottom group and makes a better initial impression than I anticipated.
Ura Files at #9 is a respectable debut, though slightly lower than Graykeith. Neither series should be judged on one placement alone.
My earlier prediction had Ura around #10 and Graykeith around #12, so Graykeith performed better than expected, while Ura landed close to my estimate.
2. Amazon preorders: upcoming volume outlook
These are useful early signals, particularly when comparing series against one another. Amazon ranks are snapshots, though, and shouldn't be converted directly into expected copies sold.
Sakamoto Days 29 #13 #15 Excellent preorder visibility
Nue's Exorcist 17 #18 #63 Strong digital interest; more modest physical ranking
Shinobi Undercover 10 #199 #604 A sizeable gap behind Nue
Roku's House of Oddities 2 #2,377 #3,144 Modest early visibility
Under Doctor 3 #5,134 #8,875 Weak preorder visibility
Drawn to the Fire 2 #22,439 #35,251 Very weak
Cannon Master 1 #38,960 #52,817 Very weak
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>>291933049
Nue is the interesting comparison here. Its digital preorder rank of #18 is much stronger than its physical #63. That suggests it has a meaningful digital audience, even if physical demand is less impressive. Shinobi, meanwhile, is far behind in both categories.
Sakamoto's #13/#15 is excellent, but it is an established hit with an anime and a much larger readership. I wouldn't compare its preorder ranks directly with those of newer series without accounting for that difference.
Roku's preorder ranks are worth watching because its first volume's sales were modest. Volume 2 will give us a better indication of whether it can build on that opening.
3. Final October volume sales
Ichi the Witch, vol. 10
90,394
Week 4: +6,760
Ichi is approaching volume 9's 93,537 total. That is strong consistency, although the final total for volume 10 could still fall short of volume 9.
Someone Hertz, vol. 5
51,038
Week 4: +3,716
This has surpassed volume 4's final 46,477. It also slightly exceeds volume 3's 51,397 only if it adds more copies in subsequent weeks; for now, it is close to that level and still has room to grow.
Akane-banashi, vol. 24
44,201
Week 4: +3,070
This remains below volume 23's 47,691 total, so this volume is tracking somewhat lower unless later sales close the gap.
Witch Watch, vol. 28
31,055
Week 4: +2,279
Volume 28 has passed volume 27's 27,973 total. That is a positive result for an established series.
The other important total is The Elusive Samurai at 52,347, with Someone Hertz now at 51,038. Hertz has reached a very respectable level for a newer Jump series and is demonstrating that its high ToC placements are accompanied by real volume demand.
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>>291933057
4. What I take away overall
Ichi: Strong sales, the #49 cover, and the #1 ranking in #48 all reinforce its position as one of Jump's strongest newer titles.
Someone Hertz: Its fifth volume passing 51,000 is particularly encouraging. It is no longer just a series with unusually good ToC placements; it has built a meaningful sales base.
Kagurabachi: Two consecutive bottom-area rankings are worth watching closely, but its commercial performance remains a major counterweight.
Nue: The digital preorder ranking suggests an audience that may be underrepresented by physical sales alone. The upcoming anime gives Jump a reason to continue supporting it.
Graykeith and Ura Files: Their first ranked results are reasonably encouraging, especially Graykeith at #7. The next few rankings will matter much more than their debuts.
Under Doctor: Its color page in #49 is editorial support, but the weak preorder position for volume 3 makes it important to see whether its sales improve. Its color page does not have a numerical ToC rank.
One correction to my previous table: Under Doctor was unranked in #49 because it received a color page; it did not place at #6. Me & Roboco was #6, followed by Under Doctor's color page.
The clearest overall pattern is that Ichi and Hertz are combining ranking strength with solid sales, while Kagurabachi's recent ToC decline is increasingly difficult to dismiss as a one-issue fluctuation. The next couple of issues should tell us whether that decline persists.
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Ichi the bitch sales have declined once again.
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>>291933075
Shut up, KgBOTTOM
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>>291933075
sakamoto leaks where
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>>291933127
Found this
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>>291933129
Another veterans snatched away.
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Is it true? Are 2026 male characters in shounen manga castrated boring soft bois?
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Naruto "Project Rasengan" will feature in the next Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #50 of 2026 with a article delving into the details of the major project for the franchise!
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We really are bringing back Naruto fully because the magazine is in the gutter.
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>>291933129
New fantasy kino.
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>>291933129
>Princess and a commander
Sisters, we finally got another shoujo kino
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>>291933173
Further alienating the rookies.
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Didn't nue get the circulation numbers in volume 10? Are we finally getting the numbers for kiyoshi and shinobi?
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Surely we wont get a third bottom toc right?
Thats axebait tier
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>>291933173
>gachaslop
>ninku crossover
>major projects
Other than the manga they shouldn't even be mentioning this.
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>>291932990
>kgb out of nowhere
kill yourself akaneschizo
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>>291933173
I forgot how popular One Piece card game is that Shueisha is now eyeing for another potential money printer.
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>>291933173
>card game
>new series
>storm 5 probably
>live action
I feel bad for Oda. Dude spent 5 years trying to make OP bigger worldwide only for Naruto's comeback to undo everything.
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>>291933160
Cute!
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Amazon Pre Order:

Digital/Physical

SAKAMOTO DAYS 29 #13/ #15
Nue's Exorcist 17 #18/ #63
Shinobi Undercover 10 #199/ #604
Roku's House of Oddities 2 #2,377/ #3,144
UNDER DOCTOR 3 #5,134/ #8,875
Drawn to the Fire 2 #22,439/ #35,251
Cannon Master 1 #38,960/ #52,817
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Jump is slowly becoming less and less about manga and more on how to squeeze the value out of its own IP.
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Project Shaman King next oh wait
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>>291933257
I don't think kishimoto and Kubo will even make 30 chapters
It's such a short sighted strategy
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>>291932727
>turns evil
>gets a fucking sick ass hat
Never changes
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>>291933129
J+ can't stop winning!
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>>291933218
Shinobi has less of a digital presence and never sold to close to 30k physical unlike Nue so probably no. And Kiyoshi has almost no digital presence so the circulation will never be released.
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>>291933129
Is this one of those cute girl initiative that Jump+ pursued recently?
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>>291933257
Like any company with multiple IPs?
Nintendo does that and its so much more succesful than Playstation
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>>291933218
Kiyoshi is doing great desu
You don't need to see the numbers desu
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>>291933129
Could have used a better title
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>>291933129
I have high hopes.
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Kids HATE shounen jump now
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I think it's about time.
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>>291933129
https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/17106567261425742233
I don't know how much the series will be influenced from his last one-shot but you can read it and see.
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>>291933218
Lol
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>>291933160
wait is the final fight over
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>>291933403
Man this dude just wants to draw blonde chicks in armor. Gotta admire the commitment.
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>>291933403
__ ____ ____?
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>>291933446
Nah it seems to be Sakamoto imagination
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Sorachi should went to Jump+ instead
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>>291933469
It was saito the one who lied about breaks.
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>>291933460
honestly makes sense, was curious how the fight would end after last chap ty anon
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>>291933129
>>291933161
>>291933301
Claymore isn't WSJ retardos
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>>291933403
Yuri?
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>>291933491
who said it was, retard...
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>>291933491
Semantically, he's a Jump veteran.
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>>291933391
I swear the one behind Roboco must be fucking saito
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>Chihiro is legit Kunishige's son
Boring
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>>291933515
The posts are implying he's a WSJ veteran not a jump veteran retardo
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>>291933544
No it doesn't, retard.
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>>291933391
Kgbfags are dramatic as fuck. Never seen this "jump civil war" shit happen over any manga let alone one that sells less than Black Clover.
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>>291933573
>Wsj RAPED again
Its the first word retardo
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>>291933586
>literally doesn't imply anything
retard
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Weird that Kagurabachi and SBR are getting seperate booths for their anime at jump festa
SBR doesnt have a stage so that makes sense I guess but KGB does and it's literally the first one so it's a little strange?
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>>291933596
You're obviously being intentionally retarded
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>>291933605
>n-no U
concession accepted
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>>291933575
That's because KGBT fans are the retarded chilren around the block, constantly picking fights with anyone and burning bridges with every other fandom out there. There's a reason why KGBT and it's fans are hated around here. It's a bottom feeder series and gets rightfully treated as such by the Japanese and that's a fact that's never gonna change, no matter how retarded they act about it.
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WSJ is getting Kishimoto and Kubo back.
It already has Sorachi and Oda.
They should get Gege and Horikoshi back.
And give Shimabukuro, Oda's best buddy, another chance.
Goutouge stays out because she hurts Oda's ego.
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>Kubo back
delulu
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AXEBACHI SOON
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FUCK Kagurabachi
FUCK Nue
FUCK Ichi
FUCK Sakamoto

KNEEL to the true SAVIOR of Shonen Jump: SHINOBI UNDERCOVER!
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>>291933515
>>291933573
It's a bit troubling to see a retard failing to recognize a skin deep implication, doubly so when he can't admit to such a stupid mistake by simply stop replying. Too many retards going around.
>>291933530
On a very roundabout way, claymore was on Monthly Jump before it went to Jump Square.
>>291933129
I'm definitely gonna read this but I'm going in with tempered expectations. I quite liked Claymore but I dropped Ariadne and never came back.
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>>291933648
Wani is going to Mix Green, since it's a croc it's bound to go to team green.
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>>291933690
>seething so hard he had to reply twice
kek
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>J+ wo- ACK
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>>291933685
>Does not say: "Fuck Kiyoshi."
Hello Saito.
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>>291933766
>hiding the username
coward
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Here's my take on kgb getting two last places back to back as a kgbfag: at this point Saito should either bite the bullet and move kgb elsewhere (GIGA/j+ or give it the Ruri treatment ie counted as wsj but published on j+ only) or shut up and stop being a salty fuck with Hokazono only because he can't draw as fast as he'd like.
Doing the shame parade on one of your hit authors because he struggles with the weekly schedule is comically childish, especially when it could all be easily fixed by handing out a regular break schedule.
On top of that, the fact the he's stuck with Takeru is also due to the fact that the Nakano tenure sucked dick and led to a massive drought in new good IPs, which Saito improved a bit, I can grant that, but clearly not where it matters. What jump needs is new flagship series, either battle shonen or spokon, and clearly there has been no luck on that front.
And giving kgb botton half placements on the regular is one thing but last place two weeks in a row is just plain disrespectful, is that how Saito should show new potential talent how he treats his authors? It is really kind of baffling, that paired with the abysmal quality of new editors.
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>>291933817
grok or copied from MH?
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>>291933817
>but published on j+ only
Hello larper
Its on Digital WSJ that you can buy on the website or if you have the suscription
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>>291933825
Let me surprise you, it's my own post. People have opinions and can type posts longer than 5 words without the help of chatgpt.
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>>291933825
Do mhafags call themselves fags?
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>>291933351
kill yourself akaneschizo
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>>291933817
Nothing wrong with the toc desu
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>>291933834
Yeah, my mistake I knew that from some anon here but I mind farted it. It doesn't change much about my point about kgb.
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>>291933817
It also kill trust. Why make any effort? Let's say that Denji dog oneshot gets serialized, since it's action and is already kinda popular you just know Saito will keep it at the bottom
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>>291933817
He is obviously going to give it more last places until hokazono loses his motivation or asks to be moved. Saito has till the anime to do this.
Remember this is the same guy who announced Kill Blue and Chojo axes just after their anime announcement, making sure those never get their boost.
Sure one piece is the biggest seller but kids don't care about it and I'm personally tired of Oda masturbating to Sanji fucking his wife
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>>291933817
That's just your regular soft skills vs hard skills situation.
For a long long long time TOC had nothing to do with actual survey votes. In general, it reflects how hard could one lick editorial and/or Oda's butt.
This is why actual fucking pillars of WSJ, its best sellers, have been treated like shit in TOC, MHA and JJK are prime examples of that. Sure, no one got two dead last placements in a row, which is nothing but "know your place you cocky newbie" bitchslap from editorial to Hokazono, but the situation was also different back then.
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>>291933817
KGBT fag gets mad that their dogshit manga gets rightfully dunked on. What else is new?
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>>291933817
>Doing the shame parade on one of your hit authors because he struggles with the weekly schedule is comically childish
wtf are they supposed to do?
The editor is not his mom, and the spots are all decided before he submits the manuscript, plus its not getting good survey results from this arc
>especially when it could all be easily fixed by handing out a regular break schedule.
One break wont suddenly fix his broken schedule, he starts drawing on the last day of the deadline
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Im glad that KGB will be GK cushion
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>>291933866
That we don't know, since jump didn't manage to shit out a decent battle manga in years. That said, it kind of seems like that you can't get decent treatment unless you suck off the EiC and work hard like a good dog.
Takeru got treated like shit under Nakano, then got the golden goose treatment by Saito as soon as he moved in but quickly got thrown in the middle to low pack the moment he started struggling and couldn't do color pages.
If he has to do unscheduled breaks, would it kill editorial to hand out one scheduled break beforehand? Even if Takeru was a retard who said he could deliver a chapter and then failed to deliver even a scribble chapter, what is his editor doing? Isn't his job to make sure the chapter comes and keep an eye for potential delays? Does he work remotely and never visit or something like that?
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>>291932558
Nue won. Again.
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>>291933887
I do understand that, companies are all like that to some degree. Still it is frustrating to see when it comes to creative jobs, especially when jump editorial is clearly not much better. They got the magazine workload pat down but clearly can't actually do the hard part (nurturing and guiding talent). Clinging to Oda's swollen teat won't last forever.
>>291933922
>the spots are all decided before he submits the manuscript
Don't give him last place? Are you stupid?
Toc placement aren't descending from heaven.
>One break wont suddenly fix his broken schedule, he starts drawing on the last day of the deadline
One break is seven more days, even if he took him 2 additional days per chapter it would fix three chapters with one day leeway.
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>>291933171
You mean fujos magazine get rid off their buffed male mc?
What a shock.
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>AIIEEE EXPIRED DRIED COWS TASUKETE
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Oh wow where's all this discussion when Kagurabachi didn't hit rock bottom?
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>>291934009
>sanitise the magazine by removing risqué series
>can't put out new good material because you lost touch with your audience
>try to bring in all the big names you can find/poach or milk older, popular IPs to mitigate the risk of flopping
>stifle the new talent who don't follow the pre approved rules
This seriously looks like Jump going the western corpo way.
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>>291933854
Yeah still feels like a nothingburger ngl. They won't actually do anything to their 2nd best seller.
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>>291933955
>suck off
Thats how american get high positions, stop projecting
Its literally having poor work ethic and being super later on submissions, then he has the gall to ask for hiatus or only submit half chapters (and half of them being copypasted panels)
You can imagine how much hate he garners in a job culture like Japanese where the biggest punishment is not giving you any job until you feel ashamed of being there and quit on your own
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>>291934002
>Don't give him last place?
you clearly have no idea how much of this is done weeks in advance
>even if he took him 2 additional days per chapter it would fix three chapters with one day leeway.
what he hasnt fixed in years of serialization isnt gonna be fixed in two days
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>>291934085
As oppossed to Akane using AI or roboco being a flop?
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This is all just preparing for KGB anniversary issue.
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>>291934097
>you clearly have no idea how much of this is done weeks in advance
Are you a moron? No matter when the decision was made, it is a call made by editorial. I never mentioned changing course mid way due to current discourse, Saito made his call and the train has departed. It doesn't mean I can't call his decision retarded.
>what he hasnt fixed in years of serialization isnt gonna be fixed in two days
Again with the misdirection, I never said one break would fix his schedule forever. I said one break could ease his workload and prevent delays for a while.
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>KGB anniversary issue
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>>291934156
Btw he isn't standing on a skyscraper, that's a pile of unsold OP volumes.
The yakuza tried to bury them in the mountains but they ran out of space.
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>>291934151
> it is a call made by editorial
Oh so then the mangaka who actually submitted their chapters on time should be punished by being lower than the one who was late? and possibly mess up the workflow of the magazine because they have to wait for that late motherfucker
Not to mention that the surveys must be bad
>I said one break could ease his workload and prevent delays for a while.
There is no easing, if they are giving him a break is because he straight up couldnt do more, which is already happening by letting him submit half chapters
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>>291934221
Nice change of argument jackass, let's make the toc based off who delivers the manuscript the fastest. You're a fucking moron.
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>>291934221
Nta but is there any proof of being late to submit the chapter? And I refuse to believe Gintama fujo army wouldn't vote lmao.
Sure you can punish it a little by putting it let's say 8th place but last? It still sells, you would think giving Jump more sales would at least make you dodge the last position.
It really reeks at nepotism
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>>291934291
Sorachi literally told us years ago
>Gintama fujo army
Do you see any fujo pairing in 2b?
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Studio Pierrot at Jump Festa 2027: The booth will showcase NARUTO × NINKU and Black Clover Season 2 exhibits.
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>>291934291
>Sure you can punish it a little by putting it let's say 8th place but last? It still sells, you would think giving Jump more sales would at least make you dodge the last position.
No, because of the actual printing process.
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>>291934267
its a mix of factors
Manuscript on time is the baseline, of you dont even manage that then you go to the bottom
Then its what the EiC wants to shill which is why you see the same top 5
Then its the actual survey votes
Lastly its the content of the chapter, like if its Gore, gag or ecchi
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>>291934307
We know late submission can lead to a low toc, it doesn't mean all low toc mean late submission. This is toddler level deductive reasoning, that anon isn't wrong.
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>>291934321
You don't even understand the logistic issues, using them as a shield for Saito's retard decision making is pure cope.
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>>291934354
Yes, but when you combine late submission with poor reception of the arc then you get two bottoms in row
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WON Piece
Me & RoboKINO
SaKINOto Days
KINO Watch
AKINO-baNINO
Nue's Exorcist
KINObachi
Ultimate Exorcist KINOshi
Ichi the Witch
KINObi Undercover
SomeWON Hertz
ABOVE Doctor
Roku’s House of KINOties
Class 2-B KINO PRESERVERZ
Animal SIGMA
Hal KINOla
Cannon FODDER
The KINO Files
GrayKINO: Translator Daemonica
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>>291934367
It's been ad naseum in numerous threads, videos, manga etc. It is not difficult to understand. But please continue digging your delusional little hole
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>>291934330
I know all that, it doesn't excuse two last places. There is no "he's so late we HAVE to put him in last place", this is a decision made with a purpose. There are multiple workarounds to avoid a last place, first and foremost a scheduled break.
Chapter might come too late to make it to print? Let's give him a break this week and keep him out of the toc. Editor-san, go and make sure he uses his break well and gets ahead with his work. It's that easy.
Similarly, it's very easy to slap him dead last and tell him to stop annoying editorial with late deliveries.
Now I wonder which is the most productive choice.
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>>291934002
The only issue to me was absolutely delusional newfaggot takes who insist TOC is somehow reflection of popularity instead of just editorial desire to shill or "punish" some mangaka. We had so many examples proving the opposite, yet they still have no clue.
At this point I simply sweep it under the "jokes on you I was only pretending to be retarded" trolling attempts.
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>>291933171
Well duh.
>Kids don't read manga anymore.
>Adult men can't relate with masculine male.
>Adult women prefer their pretty-korean-idol male.
>Hags hate men, period.
Hence why there are no heterosexual-masculine male MC like Ryo Saeba anymore in any manga nowadays, not just in shonen manga.
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>>291934453
>The only issue to me was absolutely delusional newfaggot takes who insist TOC is somehow reflection of popularity instead of just editorial desire to shill or "punish" some mangaka. We had so many examples proving the opposite, yet they still have no clue.
That you think it's a binary choice and not a little bit of both says a lot about you
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>>291934409
You're a fucking idiot who probably hasn't managed one schedule in his life. If you're a slave to all the problems that arise during any type of production, you're not a good manager.
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>>291934471
Concession accepted.
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>>291934458
Women loved Ryo. In fact it was men who wanted him to tone down the obnoxious sexual assault in its day
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Reminder that it has been three months since Hokazono started reducing the page count and if we look at it from a normal chapter perspective he had discarded 48 pages during this period.
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>>291934467
>says a lot about you
Sorry but I can't take your opinion seriously when you use that sentence, that's part of the schizo's favorite vernacular.
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>>291932727
not as good as her normal hat (which stopped showing up after like the first chapter sadly)
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>>291934497
>everyone but me is the schizo
This also says a lot about you
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>>291934467
That's not how it works, and a lot of WSJ TOC cases have been proving my point. Shit sales manga floating at the TOC top = shill. Good sales manga sitting at the very bottom = "punishment" for whatever it was, submitting the manuscript late, being a "threat" to Oda, wrong tone or choice of words in a conversation, that is something you will never know.
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>>291934477
>has no ground to hold onto
>uses the brainlet way out
Good riddance
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>>291934504
>my conspiracy theory is correct because I said so and everything proves me right because I said so
Is there any point in this conversation. You do not argue in good faith
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Damn they're chewing Oda more aggressively since Kagurabachi hit the abyss unlike before.
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>>291934502
That's why I apologised, I dunno if you're the schizo or not but he does love to say "X says a lot about Y".
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>>291934533
Some "manga about making manga" mentioned that. Interviews mentioned that. The only one who decided to pound your head in a sand was you.
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>>291934548
Then ignore that part and read the rest of it, so many of these stupid arguments come from people who think there is only a single answer to any question
>>291934568
That does not disprove my statement at all. Learn to read before arguing.
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>>291934533
It's not like the other side (toc=survey) has any proof either, it's all theorycrafting. If anything, if one surmise that tankobon sales have any connection to survey votes, the toc=editorial meddling holds more sway. I mean, plenty of low sellers have good toc placements.
>but the kids votes
You don't know that, we never got survey data in the whole history of jump.
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>>291934580
>It's not like the other side (toc=survey) has any proof either, it's all theorycrafting.If anything, if one surmise that tankobon sales have any connection to survey votes, the toc=editorial meddling holds more sway. I mean, plenty of low sellers have good toc placements
The proof is numerous manga and interviews with editors and mangaka, for all of those things. Bakuman, The Right Way to Make Jump and so on. It is not 2 + 0 =2. It is 1.2 + 0.6 = 2
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>>291933297
There's nothing "evil" about wanting to destroy everything and everyone getting in the way of being with your brotherhusband.
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>>291934597
*0.8 jesus what a blunder
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>>291934434
>NO ANON ALL THOSE JAPANESE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FLASHBACK MUST HAVE NO REPERCUSSION IN THE SURVEY, THE JAPANESE ARE TIRED OF NOT GETTINF THEIR HAKURI X CHIHIRO SLOP? NO IT MUST BE ALL SAITO AND ODA CONSPIRANCIES
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Cygames must feel real silly going all out on a series with worse reception tham axebaits lmao
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>>291934571
>so many of these stupid arguments come from people who think there is only a single answer to any question
We agree on that. This wasn't me btw >>291934453 I just chimed in.
>>291934597
>It is not 2 + 0 =2. It is 1.2 + 0.6 = 2
Again, that's just speculation based off years old works and interviews.
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>>291934632
Look me in the eyes and tell me that Cannon Master is better than current kgb, I could use a good laugh.
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>>291934639
That's another thing
>Kill Blue axed
>Chojo axed
>Kgb treated like shit
No animation studios will dare to touch Jump series
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>>291934668
Last chapters had amazing choreography
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>>291932558
>16 ・ Kagurabachi ・ Chapter 131: Tipping Point
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>>291934697
Lmao thank you anon
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>>291934668
>actual full chapter
>better art
>no reused panels
grim but KGB fails in every point here
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>>291933171
Man, I can't even think of any other WSJ's MC in this past decade that actually likes girls other than Denji.
Do I miss anybody?
It feels like every MC in shonen just have girls being thrown at them instead of them actually pursuing the girls like they pursue their goal.
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>>291934682
Another reason why Kyoani chose Ruri
no pressure from how it does on ToC since doing poor is synonimous with cancellation for the average jap
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>>291933171
Yeah?
You don't find better example of that than Kagurabachi. Chi Hiro transformation from Hokuto no Ken aura protagonist into boy K-PoP effeminate gay idol to appease the volume buying audience needs to be studied.
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>>291934742
I can see jump begging for someone to adapt Shinobi and Kiyoshi kek. Ichi is probably the safest bet but if it triggers someone then Saito may suddenly shit on it too
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>>291934738
Drawn to Plagiarism had that but alas...
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>>291934030
Oda would place bleach and the upcoming Naruto bottom. He wants revenge and he is obviously enjoying seeing Sorachi at the bottom
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>>291933129
can we run these titles past someone with some english fluency please
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>>291933817
>because he struggles with the weekly schedule

More like because WSJ readers don't give a shit about current story arc.
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>>291934571
>>291934597
You are just being intellectually dishonest here, anon.
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>>291934859
Flip flappers...
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That one bachifag who was saying everyone was afraid of Kagurabachi and its color page is real quiet now. Will he get banished from these threads when Kagurabachi gets sent to J+?
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>>291932558
Pedoda did this
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>>291934748
I guess the volume buyers are middle-aged women, then. Why else would KGB get a collab with a cleaning product?
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>>291934887
LMAO
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>>291933817
>>291933887
>>291934453
So good that we have Hokazono and Horikoshi themselves saying that survey is the big deal and low ToC ranking means people don't resonate with your work and it might be better to just cancel it. Perfect counter for newfags like you.
>>291934434
I suspect half of the time Bachi was going on break it was to protect it from bad ToC. It's been exactly the chapters with rape and NTR shit, Samura's betrayal (very unpopular - was hidden by break) etc.
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>>291934879
you wish, he'll just rage at other series and try to do console wars
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>>291934639
>going all out
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>>291933129
Ariadne in the Blue Sky was exceptionally bad so I don’t have high hopes.
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>>291934030
You need to be either gag or romcomslop or make sure you are not too popular. Like when rich hags make sure to hire old and fat women as maids
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>>291934887
Kekw, it's them+gays
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>>291934891
Yeah, now that KGB is gonns be cancelled due to low toc (despite being their best seller after OP) he should work for Oda as assistant so he will be treated better on his next manga
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>>291934891
Find me TOC mentioned in your image, schizo. Rankings are the internal metric which is indeed the result of surveys, but only editorial and mangaka teams know those, retard.
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>>291934891
>i finally come to understand the reader's tendencies
>overall bottom 3 at ToC across the year
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>>291934919
that reminds me when that ole golazo utter piece of shit was axed immediately, mangaka went sucking Oda's dick as an assistant for his next manga protection
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>>291934934
Kek really?
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Pedoda and Saito’s complete mistreatment of KGB is just going to make action authors avoid Jump. They see the way a 100k author is being mistreated.
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>>291934921
>Still pushing the "Kagurabachi is high on the SECRET ToC Meme
kek. Like Ruri it's too big to be axed outright but performs too poorly in magazine to take up space. Kagurabachi is getting sent to J+.
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>>291934940
https://jump.fandom.com/wiki/Ole_Golazo
12 chapters axe
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>>291934891
Nice one
Now watch them doing mental gymnastics by saying this is some different ranking depending on survey that only jump authors are able to see and not related to ToC ranking that also depends on survey (yeah, they are that retarded I know).
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Might be interesting for Sakamoto fags
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>>291934943
It's funny how the new oneshots are action but they won't get serialized and if they do they will be bottom
And Roku avoiding action was funny at first, now it became annoying because it's like it's forbidden to have ONE fight at least despite having characters who obviously can fight
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>>291934949
Under Doctor is their new Sakamoto Days, a manga no one talks about but it will always rank high.
I still remember the suspicious investors account
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>>291934734
>Ichicuck
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>>291934944
It's definitely not the last in two consecutive issues.
A lot of manga before suffered from the same treatment, though not as harsh, Gintama, MHA, JJK, KNY, Bleach TOC was way lower at some point than their popularity their sales have been reflecting.
And a lot of manga has received TOC placement way higher than you'd expect of their sales.
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>>291933171
This is all Pedoda’s fault for making Troonfy a weird sexless freak and enforcing that standard on other series in WSJ.
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>>291934949
>random faggot on xitter
>interesting
not really, no
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>>291934944
Shindo won by being honest and accepting that he wont be able to do weekly, now he doesnt gets ranked in ToC which is less pressure
But Takeru is too juvenile (he is the same age as Shindo) and takes the ranking as competition and wont accept not being in Jump, so he lies by saying he will do better next week but clear he cant even finish this week chapter
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Shindo has Pedoda protection
Hokazono doesn’t
It’s as simple as that
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>>291934434
Last time Jump gave Hokazono a break (whole month) he started making 13-15 pages chapters. It's wholly his problem, not Saito's, who spent a lot of money to keep Bachi at 130-150k threshold through 2024-2026, with all those collabs, bonus merch, world fucking your and so on.
Hokazono is a weak lazy faggot who thinks he is Kubo, Gege and Kishimoto while having third of their talent.
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>>291934990
Shitnuki is the guy who leaked Bleach hell arc and the main moderator of MH (he banned people for bringing up Lin in the jump thread)
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>>291934986
>It's definitely not the last in two consecutive issues.
yes.yes it is.
>A lot of manga before suffered from the same treatment, though not as harsh
>WAAAAH WE'RE BEING PUNISHED
Bachifag victim complex. I like how none of those manga were consistently bot 1 you even had to say
>Okay it's not exactly the same but it is the same and there's a secret ToC that correlates with the real ToC except when manga I like do bad in it
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>>291934734
Unc...
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>>291935017
There have been Oda assistants that got axed before
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>Shueisha lost Yagi to Lin
KEKYPOW
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>>291934986
>All the popular action ones except OP low
>Despite having thousands of psycho fujos paying for it
Totally not Oda influence btw
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Kagurabachi, it bleeds.
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>>291934986
Yet somehow Warm Piss has never ranked low. How peculiar
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DeltaPbachi...
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>>291935050
Not even during Wano
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>>291935066
kek good one
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>>291933171
I also find it amusing that with masculine male character become less popular, at the same time, femdom/mommy/muscled female characters has become more popular.
This is not just exclusive to Japan but all over the world.
Seriously, what do they feed young man nowadays?
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Lin won...
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>>291935028
1/10 retarded bait because I still replied
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>>291935133
NOT ON MY WATCH DESU!!!
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>>291935141
Pedoda is an impotent loser who can’t do anything before the might of Lin and Mix Green
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>>291935107
>femdom/mommy/muscled female characters has become more popular
Not really, those things have always been, and still are pretty niche.
The reason for no masculine characters in media is feminism, either address the root cause of the issue or continue to get raped by it.
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The line to see the Kagurabachi premiere was 10 hours long. We should tell them about the TOC to stop this.
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>>291935107
>femdom/mommy/muscled female characters
That safe horny dogshit is only "popular" because the culture is afraid of young girls.
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>>291935249
They're just discord members anon, that's not a queue that's a raid
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What is he saying here?
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>>291935107
It's being more vocal and feminism. Like 2 generation of women are aging out and want to cope pretending men would choose old over young. It's like with feet those are actually spammed by companies too since it's safe horny compared to boobs.
Irl kids don't like mommy fetish, sure having a milf somewhere as a fanservice is a thing but pretending that should be the love interest is just cope. Kids obviously will like a girl their age or a little younger and millennial would choose Q younger girl over an old one too even more now
The mommy fetish is also self degradation, it's why isekai is so popular, even if you dislike isekai you have to admit the kids rather fantasize about being a hero with a young waifu over being treated like trash by some expired woman
It is what it is
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>>291935298
>Spy x Lin
He is saying he is building a team against Jump.
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>>291935286
>>291935298
Holy difference lmao
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Oof, Bachi bros, what happened?
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>Bottom 1 two weeks in a row
>29k decline in one volume
>General disinterest of the series growing
>Shit Flashback arc
>Get his anniversary Skipped
>No cover, no CP or LCP
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>>291935298
If Hokazono was smart he would just drop Jump and work for Lin
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>>291935395
Yep, that's our flagship and pillar of Jump, Kagurabachi.
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>>291935394
Please understand, 15 pages of nothing happening requires 6 days of meticulous planning, so it got submitted the latest.
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O, my multidevice Nen!
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>>291933817
Honestly, half the complaints about KGB’s toc are from people who never got a job or too young to get one.
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>>291935506
What is this cope now
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>>291935395
>>291935412
I find it hilarious how drastically it lacks promotion while other manga are shilled like there is no tomorrow, yet it still sells so much it's 2nd best WSJ seller.
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>>291935135
>No argument
I accept your concession you have my permission to cope.
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>>291935298
CHAD
>>291935286
Sissy caged incel
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>>291935028
>No argument
I accept your concession you have my permission to cope.
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>28 chapters total
>11 color pages
Is this normal?
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> KGB is the last book in the magazine
Is Jump trying to kill Bachi?
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>>291933049
Thanks AnonGPT
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>Got his anniversary cover cucked by ICHI
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>>291933232
This guy really thinks American Naruto has a chance. At least One Piece was always envisioned as a multiethnical series. Here you'll either get asians in wigs or white guys larping as ninja. Embarassing either way, we already know they're turning Naruto into Deku.
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Besides not being 24h with my face glued to the thread some of you really needs to get over this fantasy about me disliking Kagurabachi, it's old already, if i actually disliked this series you guys would know it and i wouldn't even bother to talk or post information about it, i do have my share of dislike is with a portion of the fanbase lmao
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Akane leaks?
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If kgb was a new series then I’d be pretty certain it would be axed. Because it’s not a new series and it has an anime on the way I know it’s not going to get axed.
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Champion Jump Magazine Sunday
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Welcome to GIGA
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>>291935817
Dark times ahead for WSJ
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>>291935817
Question. If Jump's having a bad time getting new series off the ground, why don't they just serialize more stuff like Magazine and Sunday? Do they just have shorter chapters or something?
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>and now 4 more chapters with -4 pages

i am genuinely puzzled about Hokazono's state
he is now consistently drawing 20-30% less
if it's physical problems it should have been long time announced, that's good excuse
but it wasn't
and it's not that he has some intricate panelling and storyboarding in these chapters
most of them are people talking, lots of backgrounds with assistant work, few action panels
it's not different from his 2025 practices
so, maybe he no longer knows where to go story wise? that's why he cuts the page count - to give himself more time to think about the story?
or he has lost his passion after initial creative surge has been exhausted
or it's both
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>>291935775
Nothing yet
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>>291935395
Who the fuck convinced him that a flashback full of politics with the only fight of note being the one at the beginning was a good idea. It goes to show why you shouldn't tell the whole story of the past and just focus on one or two characters in a flashback. Granted it can backfire if the character is obnoxious like Oden from One Piece.
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>>291936063
I 5chan theory of them keeping him in the magazine until after the anime finishes airing is correct. They want to promote KGB as a WSJ manga until then.
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>>291936119
It’s his story and I’m glad retarded turdworlder shonengroids aren’t writing it.
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>>291936057
Paru's furry manga
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>>291936119
To be honest some of these characters we should have been introduced to in one or two chapter flashbacks sooner.
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>>291936145
And he does whatever he pleases until then. I think he should follow Hori route of 8 pages chapters.
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>>291935997
Jump didn't do any hiatus rotation unlike the other two.
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>>291935817
Mix Green finna boutta bury Jump
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>>291936216
Well if it leads to boring chapters of talking heads and a -30K drop in volume sales, I can see why editorial is mad for once. Hopefully, with the past villain group we see interesting fights now.
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>>291936218
Jump can't afford of having weeks where the magazine is more than 500 pages because Shueisha won't upgrade their printing press. That's why Jump can't run as many series as other mags. Kinda grim if it's still the best selling physical magazine.
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>>291935817
People complain about nepotism in Jump when Champion allows Paru to publish the worst looking and written garbage imaginable.
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>>291936119
Yet one piece was never punished despite even nips disliking wano and hating hiyori ending lmao
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In the first place no Shonen Jump EiC has ever gotten promoted to an executive at Shueisha. That means no one can vouch for the magazine there and get needed things.
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>>291936303
They use the same printers as Shokakugan
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>>291936337
Well look at the one piece fans on 4chan. They all suffer from time sunk cost fallacy. KGB doesn't have that to the same extent. It hasn't even run 5 years.
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>>291936340
Yeah I think Lin mentioned that lol. It just makes past EiCs look more amazing since it was the love of the job or the mag guess. But eventually it was going to churn out someone like Saito.
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>>291933171
Yes.
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Are we really going to keep slandering Oda and editorial for the rest of the week because of this shit?
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>>291936514
Yes, nepotism is awful
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>>291936460
Lin approved this and people are still somehow convinced he’s a good editor.
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>>291936063
>Kagurabachi out
>Boruto In
Feel free to screenshot this post.
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>>291936276
>-30K drop in volume sales
The gap between 2nd and 3rd place was so big, it allowed KGB to stay in 2nd best selling WSJ manga place even after the drop.
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You can tell that most Bachian already left the Kagurabachi leak thread with how slow it is at the moment.
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>>291936514
Because of what shit exactly? A lot of shit WSJ is currently in happened because of Oda nepotism.
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>>291934949
Cope
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>>291936146
>aieeee trust the plan kgbsisters
I've heard this one before reading Chainsaw Man.
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>>291936194
>get banned for racism
>immediately router reset to post more edgy shit
Kgb? Lost.
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>STILL crying about racism
>24 (twenty four) hours later
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>>291936837
Stop giving him attention.
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THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING
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>>291935026
>Shitnuki is the guy who leaked Bleach hell arc
No he wasn't
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>>291934949
>it’s just my personal opinion

This guy know nothing about it at all.

If SD were schedule to end in 3 chapters we would know, expect at least 10 more chapters for now.
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Pray for
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>>291935026
That was Gaymes and arabs Friends
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>>291936040
>>291936806
based nuebro
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You can just tell Nue lost hard and he's still FUMING about getting that shitty random studio whose name I forgot for his shitty ass exorcist anime.
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Is Cannon Master getting U19d?
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>>291936994
He must've just seen the raw leaks. It just seemed like Sakamoto delivered the final blow.
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>>291936837
>>291936885
>still ban evading
Wow, kgbfags sure are tourists
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>>291935778
Good boy
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>>291937347
No shit Oda hates gotouge
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>>291937091
You can tell kgb lost when he's seething about Nue's studio lmao
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>>291937347
These are all super recent, only Bleach is from the actual 2010. Pretty impressive. Now would be a perfect time for a new Bleach movie, like, you know, Hell Arc.
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ICHI LEAKS WHERE?
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>>291937448
Don't worry, next year OP:God Valley, the canon flashback movie about people who're already dead fighting on epstein's purge island will show that darn reptile who's the king of shonen manga.
Oda's yakuza friends are making sure Toei animators do their best or die trying.
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>>291937448
That's an outright lie, Oda loved KnY.

>Oda: Recently, lots of people say that Jump is getting more interesting. Jump right now is growing thanks to Kimetsu no Yaiba's power but also all the young authors in it! That includes me too!! I'd be glad if you checked Jump. Thank you for making me reach 1st place, I'm honored!
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"To Celebrate the Huge Popularity of Volume 24 & the Start of a New Arc: Special Cover & Opening Color Spread!!

Akane finds herself in a tough spot during a TV recording, but...?!"

Oh and Kiyoshi is there too for some reason
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>>291937662
>That includes me too!!
>Suddenly stock problems with kny
>Jump ignoring it
You are so dumb
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>>291937688
>Oh and Kiyoshi is there too for some reason
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>Blobtopia ending in 3 chapters
oh no blobbers...
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>>291937700
I don't even know what you're talking about. What stock problems?
And even if there were any, did you forget what time period that was? Did you forget about COVID?
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>>291937742
You can tell this retard wasn't even in kny threads
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>>291937662
Ah yes, the 2019 post where he congratulated kny (and others (himself included)) and thanks the fans for making him win the 1st place in volume sales (he actually got 2nd below kny).
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nue won again
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>>291937742
Kimetsu had a lot of underprinting problems. It was popular in Japan and they were caught with pic related
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>>291937805
flop series no one cared about award
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>>291937645
Goon valley means nothing to normies
No Luffy (or Shanks for most of the movie)
1000 chapters to catch up
2hr long Toei lightshow

DS is gonna make a billion and it will take a miracle for OP to make 1/3rd of it.
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>>291937805
I miss AH
Should have been a plus manga, those future characters looked cool
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>>291937807
I'm telling you, even if there were printing problems, it happened during COVID and on top of KnY's unexpectedly massive popularity. I mean, what's so surprising that combining those two things caused problems?
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>>291937843
Downloading new pics won't change shit. It was discussed a lot in kny threads, you didn't even know this
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>>291937816
We got f*cked over
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>>291937858
And did I say I was in those threads? Where did I say that? What kind of ridiculous attitude is this?
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“Next big thing“ Kagura Bachi getting carried by Ichi/Sakamoto
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>>291937896
Why the fuck would we care about carrying you? You are such a bootlicker it's gross
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>>291937830
Seeing all those aliens/weird art plus is getting for sure
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>>291937843
Stop with the covid cope, the underprinting started from early 2020 when covid was not that big of an issue yet.
Also, anyone remember kimetsu getting it's highest first print for its last volume at 3.95 million, just 10k shy of One Piece's record of 4.95 mil. They clearly couldn't do those other 10k, physically impossible to do, surely.
That same kny volume went to break the record for highest single week sales at 2.855 mil. It sold 4mil+ fm and required reprints.
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>>291937980
Don't forget dragon ball sales being stuck for 20 years
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>>291937980
>OP's record is 4.05*
Typo there
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NEW JUMP+ MANGA
Evershifting Girlfriends by Omameda

Tokimasa Kurusu is a high schooler so strict with himself that he finds himself resorting to lusting after numbers. But just as he's dismissing love as a waste of time, a girl shows up before him holding three love letters…?!

https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1030954
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>>291937980
What do you mean cope? The world was completely fucked by COVID. Like, don't even pretend everything was fine and that printing problems supposedly couldn't have happened because of it.
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>>291938005
>finds himself resorting to lusting after numbers
Someone read 100kanojo
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>>291938039
Why are you still spamming pics? It's not like you even knew about kny printing problems or even admit Jump ignoring kny
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>>291937688
>Akane finds herself in a tough spot during a TV recording
God it's a shame it's not gonna be something like Akane is tv camera shy so we just have her stare at the camera like this instead
or that her getting out of trouble will not be manzai with Kaisei...
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>>291938039
You're embarrassing yourself, the printing was just fine. I remember stores lamenting there were too many Squid8 volumes actually while kny was running out everywhere.
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>>291938059
Where do you see spam? Go sober up. This is an imageboard, I can post pics.
And enough with this idiotic attitude. I literally said in my very first post that I don't know anything about the printing problems, and that's what the conversation was about. But for some reason you keep trying to accuse me of something over and over.

>>291938112
Funny how the "printing" problems didn't stop KnY from ultimately selling a record breaking, never before seen print run.
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>>291937896
>Ichi the witch got 5 Cover in 2026
>Kagurabachi got 2 with one shared with Ichi
Lmao
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>>291938112
>while kny was running out everywhere.
Almost as if Kimetsu created unprecedented demand that caught everyone off guard... Yeah, what a mystery...
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>>291933491
It had four chapters in WSJ when its original magazine went defunct
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>>291938191
Ichi is currently better than kagurabachi btw
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>>291938319
You don't mean it.
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>>291933403
>>291933690
Yeah I couldn't get into Ariadne either but this looks very Claymore-esque. Like if Raki was a girl
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Jump GIGA
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>>291938319
Descarass charisma mogs the entire KGB cast
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>>291934602
Oh shit, color page reminds me about this color page from Iruma.
Same author btw.
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In 2026 /a/ posters suck up to jannies and are proud of it. It's over, you can shut down the site now.
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>>291938332
I’m serious, there is nothing Bachi is doing better than Ichi CURRENTLY
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>>291938381
>SIX COLOR PAGES IN A YEAR + duo with Kgb
WTF lol
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Iruma and Ichi are trash.
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>>291933491
newfaggot
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>>291938273
Explain the first print short of OP's record then, that happened December 2020, more than a year after kny started blowing up.
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>>291938414
>Story: Ichi
>Characters: Ichi
>Fights: Kgb (irishima talk)
>Pacing: Ichi
>Drawing: Ichi
>Hype: Ichi
>Aura: Desscaras
>World building: tie
>Writing: Ichi
>Villain: Kgb (Ariu carry)

Ichi clear very hard
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the nuecuck is seething kek
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>>291938556
What numbers are we even talking about here? Oricon? You do know it doesn't track all sales, right? And there's your answer to how KnY supposedly printed fewer copies than OP, when in reality that probably wasn't the case.
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>>291938586
na kgb is doing fine that why you seething so hard nuecuck lmao meanwhile nue is a flop lmao
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>>291938558
>Story and pacing: Ichi
You're joking or larping as an ichifag and this is coming from someone who reads Ichi.
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How I see the whole picture regarding Ichi and KGB is that the former is way more consistent and will be able to last a long time while the later is very inconsistent. Their differences in sales isn’t big enough to not betting way more on Ichi than Kagurabachi so the magazine is going all out with Ichi.
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>>291938627
Both Ichi and KGB are manga for women and gays.
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>>291938563
>>291938601
>please PLEASE talk about Nue
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>>291938627
Ichi can also take the Frieren/fantasy fans when the anime airs.
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Still waiting.
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>>291938596
First print numbers are announced by editorial as form of advertisement for "big number better series". If you don't know what you're talking about, try not to be sound too condescending anon.
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>>291938586
The pivot in itself was funny desu
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>>291938627
Current Ichi is pretty consistent quality wise but it's a bit of a departure from usual jump style shonen. That said, early ichi was all over the place.
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>>291938657
Show me those announcements, please.
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>>291938563
nuefags are the reason I added that poll thing for my chart (the original not the schizo's one). I realy should add the Hibari thing and I don't see Nue ever getting big, if it's unpopular already imagine after getting literally who studios
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>>291938627
>The magazine bet more on Ichi than KGB
Of course lmao, he can’t even make a fucking color page or cover for his 3rd anniversary, it’s not even jump’s fault.
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>>291937805
This guy sure knows how to draw women
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>>291938648
Nah, Ichi is adjacent to that fanbase but doesn't overlap all that much, it's too whimsical and more western-ey. Frieren despite being standard fantasy with elves and whatnot it feels more nip-like.
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the nueschizo once again can't stop seething against kgb not a single day where he hasn't posted lmao what a trash life
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>>291938648
I like how Descarass is basically Gojo but luckily she gets the wank Sukuna got.
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>>291938627
WSJ is treating Ichi like the next big things because the author + colorist can handle allat. They tried with Kgb at first but the author burned himself out
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>>291938648
Threads are also the best. Anyone is welcome
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>>291938730
We get it dude, you want to talk about Nue but you don't know how to say it properly
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Who will adapt Ichi?
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>>291938686
Not here to spoonfeed you when a google search is all you need
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>>291938319
Always has been. Ichi is the most creative hit Jump has had since Chainsaw Man. It obviously is more interesting than "edgelord in black wants revenge and to find all cursed blades".
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Ichi and Centuria will be the next big thing
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>>291938657
Anon, but volume 23 went to reprint before it even came out. That's exactly how it happened, no need to twist things. So all of this is just nonsense about KnY being deliberately underprinted. And One Piece has already lost in annual sales anyway. None of it adds up.
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>>291938392
I like Ichi but is Iruma actually worth it? Whenever I see clips or whatever it just looks like the whole show is those fake wholesome scenes with the classmates from MHA.
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Bro the sudden "ichifag" larp is crazy. Bet you're gonna call it the better battle shonen next lmao
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Bachibros...
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nuecuck why are you still seething about getting that shitty studio kek nobody can even remember the name of the studio since it's so garbage and random
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>>291938775
So you have no proof and you were just trying to deceive me with an old lie that has no basis whatsoever. Okay.
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Sorry but I had enough with the constant copy pasted panels all over the chapter in Kgb.
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>>291938835
>ichi is so ass he gotta use a kgb meme keeeeeeek
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kodomo jump
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>>291938846
>>291938873
I wonder if animefags will survive this kgbschizo
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>>291938725
That's just cuz Frieren has isekai trappings, Ichi just creates a believable world. They don't say things like "at the end of a dungeon there's always a boss" like in Frieren.
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>>291938846
You don't have to be so ashamed if you wanna talk about Nue. I'm sure there at least one anon here who reads the manga. Probably
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>>291938852
>So you have no proof
Do some research before trying to play the know-it-all part. You sound retarded.
>>291938901
That's part of it, there the whole demons/demon lord/heroes party thing too. Nips love those.
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Takeru Hokazono

>Fuck around (constant copy pasted panels, shit writing, boring long flashback nobody asked for)
>Find out (dead bottom ToC / no anniversary)
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>>291938857
Serious question, can an editor tell the author to rush things? I noticed that Hokazono skipped the whole beginning of the war?
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What's the studio Nue is getting anyways? Nobody fucking remembers the name
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>>291938939
Fuck, I forgot about scribbles.
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Hibari sounds bad but the staff looks good
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>>291938964
Studio Hibari, like the guy from KHR
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when was the last time a WSJ manga past a hundred chapters got axed
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>>291938935
yeah, that's the isekai shit. It's JRPG tropes
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The dude who said „Thursday = Kagurabachi humiliation ritual“ was spot on cuz what the hell lol
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>>291938992
Kill Blue?
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>>291938827
But it's better than kgb
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>>291938935
Well, you did in fact lie to me. Fuck you.
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>>291939001
Yeah I know, that's very popular with nips and I don't think Ichi can replicate that popularity, especially considering the rough entry material.
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You don't have to believe me, but there isn't a single real KGBfag or Nuefag in this thread right now.
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>>291938979
Oh yeah, don't remember that guy as well no wonder the name is so forgettable
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>>291939041
Look harder you moron
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>>291939086
You are not a real jjkfag
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>>291939123
Yeah yeah, go fuck yourself, you stupid liar. Don't even bring up that dumb conspiracy nonsense again.
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>>291938939
>find success in the west out of weebs desperate to say they were fans of "the next big thing" from the start despite shitty reception in japan
>get to go on long enough to fool the japanese too
>anime announced
>get cocky
>announce war arc, skip the war and focus on cucking and rape
>announce to everyone in the office that you're gonna rape and humilliate them with your genius manga
>cry if you gotta do a color page
>cry that you can't make full chapters
>continue recycling panels
>constant breaks
>nobody genuinely enjoys the current arc
>dead last on the ToC for consecutive weeks and less prevalence on group covers for some reason
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>>291939087
>Don’t remember well Chad Hibari from KHR
Holy LARPING
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>>291939155
Jesus Christ you fucking mongrel here
https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNASFK04022_U1A101C1000000/
fuck you for making me find your shit now kys
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>>291939209
Bro kgbfags are losing it kek
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Nue lost
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>>291939209
>please PLEASE talk about Akane
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>>291939245
What I sent are the real numbers a year later, and you're sending the very thing that started this ridiculous conspiracy theory. You should probably apologize to me.
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>Akane flopped
>Nue anime will flop
Imagine losing this hard
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Nue humiliation ritual nue cuck ritual
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>>291939245
>November 4, 2011 15:55
Are you an idiot?
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>>291939309
>the real numbers a year later
Do you even know what "first print" means?
>>291939346
Yeah that's when set its record for highest first print. Are you an idiot?
There's no way there's two idiots who don't know what "first print" means, is there?
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>>291939446
Instead of throwing around insults and rudeness, you really should just apologize for your lie. You literally lied to me. Nobody deliberately underprinted KnY, that's a fact, and by that point, as an anon said earlier in the thread, One Piece had already lost in sales, so it made no sense anyway.
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>>291939519
You can't even explain why wsj pretends it doesn't exist
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>>291939543
That's another lie. Here's the KnY merch ad from last week's issue #48.
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>>291939519
You're a mongrel fuck trying to weasel your way out of this argument. You claimed my first print argument was a shame, made up numbers and a conspiracy and then turns out you didn't even know what "first print" even means and you have the gall to say I wasted your time?
>Nobody deliberately underprinted KnY, that's a fact
Yeah show me the proof it's a fact then. Oh right, you can't because there's no proof either way and the only way it can be argued about is with tangential evidence, such as my first print argument.
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>>291934970
Sakamoto Days was talked about until it jumped the shark
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>>291939651
Well, I'm right based on facts, while all you have is a conspiracy theory and you can't explain why they would underprint KnY when One Piece had already lost by that point. Enough.
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>>291939672
You have no facts beside your vague "covid could've interfered with the printing" point
>Enough
Yeah sounds about right stop making a fool out of yourself.
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>>291939672
>why they would underprint KnY when One Piece had already lost by that point
To let Oda and OP keep the record for highest first print? That's the whole argument, you stupid?
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>>291939740
>the record for highest first print
Doesn't mean shit.
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FIGHT
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>>291939757
>didn't even know what the argument was even about
>loses
>i-it doesn't matter
Figures, go back where you came from you waste of space
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>>291939857
Saying I lost doesn't change reality. The facts prove I'm right. Good luck.
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>>291939897
>the facts
>fact in question is a pic name "facts"
>pic has incorrect facts
This shit is even funnier knowing the "evidence" you brought in was incorrect because you didn't even know what "first print" even means and probably searched something completely unrelated lmao just look at this >>291939309
>What I sent are the real numbers a year later
>for a first print
Fucking kek
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>>291940071
Come on, tell me how them supposedly not letting KnY break that record affected anything or helped One Piece when it lost by a landslide in both yearly sales and per volume sales.
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>>291938857
This chapter barely has any though.
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>>291940071
>>291940102
P.S It was not unrelated.
It was actually the real number for first prints.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2021-04-08/manga-with-biggest-1st-printings-from-kodansha-shogakukan-shueisha-2020-2021/.171563
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i want ura leaks
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>>291939768
Stfu nuecuck
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>>291940102
You really don't know when to quit huh? It's easy, when you're a prideful old man surrounded by equally old sycophants and you gets your ego hurt by some younger rookie upstanding you, you cling to whatever thing can help you feel more secure of your position and use your influence on said sycophants to do so.
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>>291940244
>open article
>The chart reflects the first print runs from volumes released between April 2020 through March 2021
Anon please
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>>291940444
I easily countered everything you said and I'm still right, while you can't respond to anything. Your ridiculous jab about me supposedly posting something unrelated to first prints now just looks pathetic.
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>>291940350
That's a kgbfag though.
I doubt ichi or nue fags care
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>>291940512
Well, that's the period under discussion. Supposedly KnY volume 28's first print was underprinted.
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>>291940567
23*
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>>291938822
>whatever it just looks like the whole show is those fake wholesome scenes
I don't understand what you mean here.
Anyway, it's worth it if you like a SoL show with a slow burn story and little action. The main focus being the characters and there interactions. If you watch from start and survive to "Royal One" arc (S2/chapter 54) and really liked it, go for it.
>classmates from MHA
MHA WISH it had Iruma classmates. One of the classmates that started more or less in the background got teamed up with MC around 100 chapters in. After that arc, they became super close friends from then to the most recent chapters. Imagine if Izuku got teamed up with Sero one arc and they became BFF afterwards.
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>>291940514
Your only argument boils down to
>I'm right
>>291940567
You know what a record is right?
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>>291940592
>Imagine if Izuku got teamed up with Sero one arc and they became BFF afterwards.
That's sounds terrible
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>>291940680
Stop replying to me and stop asking questions until you answer mine.
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>>291938822
Iruma is super fucking aimless and slow. Its almost exclusively loved by characterfags who just like seeing their favorites get spotlight and nothing happening for the majority of it
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>>291938822
Not really. It started out as a "better" MHA but then you realize that the aspect of MHA its "better" at was already dull and boring so you basically have a series that's focused on the worst aspect of MHA as a selling point.
>>
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>>291940808
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>>291940709
Your reading comprehension is abysmal you moron
>OP highest first print ever is 4.05 mil
>kny highest first print ever is 3.95 mil
>kny needed an immediate reprint on release to cope with the request (4mil+ sold)
>the kny craze had been ongoing for 1 year+
These are all verifiable facts, if you focus all your brain power you might be able look it up.
My contention: jump editorial intentionally shorted kny first print to let OP and Oda keep the record for all time highest first print.
Do you understand? Do I have to draw a graph for you?
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>>291940921
You still don't understand or don't want to understand, that this record doesn't affect anything. Even without it, One Piece was crushed to pieces. KnY came out the winner. The record for highest first print didn't save One Piece from losing by a landslide in yearly sales and per volume sales. So what exactly was the point of "letting Oda keep the record" if One Piece lost everywhere else anyway? Your conspiracy theory doesn't even make sense on its own terms.
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>>291933346
While doing better than goystation, nintendo has still has been on a decline for the past 5 or so years its telling that theyre dropping a high budget remake for the most renowned game of all time and nobody seems to really care outside of nintendo fans themselves. Its a combination of their legacy IPs all having projects in the pipeline but nothing major actually out and no note worthy fresh ips to bridge the gap between now and when games like Ravenous drop
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>>291940976
>You still don't understand or don't want to understand, that this record doesn't affect anything.
That's you, anon. If you don't care, no one would? That's the argument of a dimwit who thinks he's way smarter than he really is. Learn to stay in your lane.
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>>291940704
>ban evading already
Uh oh...
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>>291941401
>still not killing himself
Uh oh...
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>>291938737
> Descarass is basically Gojo but luckily she gets the wank Sukuna got.

So less wank ?
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>>291938857
Hokazono would never survive pre digital workflow
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>>291939684
Wait, I wondered why was this thread so slow now I know why lmao and is that another ud cp?
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>>291939594
LOL, suddenly he got all quiet
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>>291939668
it's not that people don't talk about Sakamoto, it's just that every chapter is just fights so you just go "cool" and move on.
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>>291942067
This one? Isn't this one yours?
>>291939405
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>>291942206
Hey that's another fantastic thread
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>>291940745
And what aspect is that?
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>>291940711
>ugh these dumb fucking fags
>they just like this manga because characters will show up and do stuff consistently
Is this how bad things have gotten here?
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>>291938822
Both are way better than KGBT, so yeah I would read these any day of the week over KGBT if I were you.
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>>291942368
Things are just fine around here. It's just Kgbfags being retarded people like usual, but these people are a minority here, so it's alright.
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>>291942296
>heh one post got deleted
And so is yours.
I noticed you also stopped using racist words loooool
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>>291942863
Back to being a dumb racist I see. Kgbfags are so sad. Last place and they keep lashing out instead.
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Ichindustry plant status?
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>>291942716
>heh one post got deleted
Uh oh
>17:08:30 UTC
Reeeally
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>Ichi keeps raising the stakes
>loses 20k, never hit 100k
>Ruri goes on hiatus
>maintains 90% of readers
We can tell the industry plan here
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>>291943264
Ruri is just THAT good.
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>>291943264
I don't understand Ruri's readership at all. Do people actually like do my dragon powers make me look fat plot lines? In that case you should have no problem watching chick flicks. Probably is the same audience that loves le quirky girls in Disney movies.
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mmmm... doragon...
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How hurt?
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Last week's Kagurabachi chapter was about a naked old man being gay dommed. I don't think it should be a surprise the content doesn't resonate.
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Kagurabachi will be my favorite j+ manga
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>Blobtopia ending
Lin wins another one
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>>291943853
no, obviously it's ending so he can go back to WSJ
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>>291943314
Jump wishes it could get a manga with 10% of the audience of a disney movie
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>>291943314
If you like what Ichi is trying to do, you have a lot of choice (regardless of any opinions on quality). But what else gives you what Ruri gives you? Fucking Machikado? lol
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>>291943870
I believe it, it wasn't doing badly enough to get axed this quickly
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I feel like I'm the only American reading hertz
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>>291943213
>lying again
Man kgbfags have nothing better to do in life huh.
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>>291941904
You can tell kgb lost when this guy is still seething.
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