As an adult, they seem like awful people to me.>Nobita's mom basically doesn't care about his life beyond school related stuff, never checks in on his well being and basically exists to yell at him even when he is depressed.>Gian's mom is straight up physically abusive. That one episode where she brutally thrashes him for cheating on an exam (cheating is wrong but at the end of the day he just wanted her approval and he deserved a strong scolding, not a black eye).Crazy how the show straight up gives them the "we just love you" cop out. If I were these kids I would have cut all contact with them as an adult.
>>291911861You told everybody here that you're a Zoomer or younger.This was how parenting was like back in the 80's and earlier. Parents only bothered with your actions and results, they couldn't give a shit about your sensitivies and feelings because growing up and becoming an adult meant being able to shrug all that intangible pain and achieving results anyways.
>>291912425And a lot of those kids went no contact with their parents. Musta been the wind that made them do it
>>291911861You’re about to have an entire thread of 80 iq Americans and 60iq thirdies crawling in here to tell you you’re soft. Muh momma belted me and I turned out arright heheheh
>>291911861>>291912425Dude I grew up on this show. As a kid I thought it was normal. Rewatching it as an adult makes these moments uncomfortable.>>291912530This. Growing up it felt like adults were allowed to be assholes because "we are just doing it because we love you." God those types made me miserable during my teen years.
>>291912811>Rewatching it as an adult makes these moments uncomfortable.That's because as a kid, it was natural to perceive your parents' discipline as draconian; regardless of its actual severity. Conversely we've been educated that the civilised adult should have a soft touch approach when raising their children; which deviates from the orthodox disciplinary actions shown in this show.It was a simpler outlook on children; poor academic performers like Nobita and Gian are often shown as maladjusted with personality flaws while high achieving kids like Shizuka and Suzuki are portrayed as being level headed and mature.
I remember a lot of instances of Nobita's mom not being awful. She was a bit of a nag but he also was extremely lazy. Didn't wanna study, didn't wanna clean, do his homework, get up on time. How are you supposed to wanna hug and kiss a child like this?
>>291911861Suneo’s mom was pretty awful to him for wetting the bed too, to the point that the 2004 version changed it to him leaving the toilet door open or something like that since that’s actual voluntary behavior.
>>291912425He might be a zoomer but he's not wrong that they were terrible parents. Most parents in history have been terrible parents. Just because you manage to get your kid to survive beyond infancy doesn't mean you're a good parent. That's a fucking low standard and I'm tired of people using that.>"I give him food and give him clothes to wear, I'm a great parent"That's how many people genuinely think and it's wrong. What about safety? Healthcare? Are your kids warm or always sniffing because they have cold 24/7? Do your kids know how to do basic tasks like cleaning, cooking etc?If any of that is a no, you're a shit parent
>>291912811>>291911861Boomers thought "yelling" means educationYou don't even need to yell at your own kid unless they are doing something really stupid. The point is boomers yell...and teach NOTHING at all.
>>291911861Am I the only one who thinks shin chan show was extremely mean to the mother? It's your classic boomer hate wife, literally any millennial and zoomer would change the modern woman for a classic woman
>>291913598>Most parents in history have been terrible parentsYou honestly think that a true and tried method of raising kids, over countless generations that have produced many legendary figures who are revered over the centuries is somehow inferior to this nu-age academic concocted approach which produced two generations (Millenials and Zoomers) of mediocre adults who can't even reproduce. I can't think of a better example of contemporary arrogance for those that have preceded us.
>>291914010Methods of our predecesors created boomers,not napoleon.
>>291914024I am fairly certain parents weren't coddling their kids during Napoleon's time
>>291911861It depends on the episode and the setup required for the gadget to be used. Sometimes Nobita is doing his best but the events conspire against him and the mom yells at him just because. Other times Nobita is being a lazy little shit who can't even be bothered to get off the floor to go pee in the bathroom, and her frustration is fully justified.The parents aren't really characters so much as obstacles in a kid's otherwise carefree life. You can say the same about Shizuka who despite being Nobita's crush is perfectly willing to join in on Gian and Suneo making fun of him. On the other hand you have his classmate Dekisugi who's a perfectly decent guy but Nobita hates him because he threatens his chances with Shizuka.
>>291912530Nah, you can clearly the thread getting retarded westerners unloading parental trauma and discussing their culture over a bait thread about a comedy show. All this shit was just laughs, and I will continue to think it's funny
>>291914010There was no "tried and tested" way of raising kids until the modern era. Everyone was doing whatever they felt like personally. Someone was educating their child, someone was making them work in the coal mines, someone was abandoning them, many were beating them for no reason, someone was fucking them in the ass. It was more of "birth them and let them do whatever I want" than actually any sort of structured or standard plan for raising them.Do not fall in the trap of idolizing the old generation. Now I am not saying that you should not respect them, I am just saying that their ways of doing things for their own circumstances.>legendary figuresLegendary figures were born, but you will also know that the average person was still a filthy, serf or a peasant back in those times, and legendary figures were extremely rare.Maybe it's just a matter of high standards but I think there should have been more legendary figures and stronger people, better people and more creative people in general. I do not see why we should compare ourselves to the standards of the old, I think we should always try to keep them as a baseline or even as something below exceptional and try to exceed them all.I have the same problem with environmentalism. They say garbage like "we need to preserve our planet, preserve our oceans and forests because we have no other planet, we need to reduce our population", to which I say, "then let's find a few dozen more planets and try to hit a trillion people asap, instead of reducing consumption"
>>291914036That depends entirely on the family and their approachs to parenting. Einstein's parents for example are very supportive of him. Also being strict doesn't necessarily mean yelling at and beating your kids whenever they do something wrong.
>>291911861very accurate depictions of japanese moms
>>291911861Average Asian parenting.
>>291912425>This was how parenting was like back in the 80's and earlierWrong then, wrong now.
>>291912425I am a zoomer and I've been punished all the time as a kid. I don't think I am a better or more capable person now because of that.
>3 years and I reach nobita's parents age>went from 'damn literally my parents' to I'll fuck herSend help
>>291912425>ALL out parents sucked openly so YOU'RE the wrong one!
>>291911861Bottom is every working class Japanese mom ever. Top is all the others. It's just what it is.
>>291911861Nobita is a genuine loser who provokes his mom's anger, but Gian's mother is a psycho and they should dive into how it probably made him into a bully
>>291914116Nobita is an insufferable wuss but his mom basically exists to yell at him
>>291912425fpbpyou fags can (you) all you want but he's right
>>291911861All I know about this show is that one artist draws mostly /ss/ of Nobita and his mom.
>>291912425No wonder so many boomers became serial killers
>you will never be turned into chocolate and eaten by your mumIt's episodes like these and the movies where he literally fights wars as a kid that make it clear Nobita's going to be fucked up as an adult
>>291914008These are old shows, and they age along with all their jokes
>>291912425>This was how parenting was like back in the 80's and earlier.Bruh its still like that. Shit never went away at least for boomers
>>291914008cute
>>291911861Yeah japanese parenting have never been the best to begin with, let alone decent, all because of generational trauma and resentment over those parents growing up in the shittiest period of japan.
>>291912811Recently the writer of LANTERNS got so much scron for the message it send in that shitshow by saying ''Abuse is alright if it leads to you becoming something better'' but this is the same guy who wrote that ''black people only commit ruiots because they get brainwashed by the KKK'', guy is just a straight up douchebag, he basically said that its okay to be like Joe Jackson.Japanese writers had the same complex sadly somtimes.
>>291914008Misae was a cunt to his husband and she is self centered and greedy as fuck too.
>>291914116Shizuka is pretty awful towards Nobita sometimes, and Nobita is a deranged perv little shit sometimes, some may say, ''they were made for each other'', i say, ''two evils dont make a good, just means two people who are awful'', but as much of a perv and retard Nobita could be, i remember an episode of the old show (the 80s one) where Nobi gets to mit his dead grandma and it ends with her wanting to know her girlfriend, and it ends in a painfully unfunny HAHA LIFE SUCKS scenario with Nobita beggin Shizuka to be his girlfriend to make his grandma smile before she dies and Shizuka just chew him at the end and shits on him.The problem is that this IP like Shinchan just exits for dumb stupid young kids and to repeat the same beats over and over and over, no real growth or character development, just keep goin and making yearly movies and devolve into stagnation, but the japanese do not care sadly because MUH LEGACY.I'd say have Nobita mature and not be a little shit but let shizuka go and give her a better possible girlfriend, but oh no, MUH STAGNATION
>>291927874>>291927712cursed posting
>>291911861She's not that bad.
>>291912425This
>>291931147Lmao what the fuck is this? She didnt had eyes like that in the original, same for Nobita.They really beautified them a lot.
>>291927874I honestly miss the old pervy nobita, he is too sanitized and boring now
>>291911861You've never seen boomers as parents at their worst.
>>291911861If Doraemon was made for zoomers, Nobita would complain about the mistreatment he got from his parents on Discord and that would spark a catalyst of getting groomed.
>>291911861I can understand why Nobita's mom is angry all the time. She's dealing with perhaps the most lazy, stupid, greedy, useless, weakass kid in the history of kids whose only redeeming quality is that he's kind to animals.
>>291911861That's just Showa era aka Boomers parenting.
>>291933087Sounds like a her problem after fucking up in raising him.
>>291933133He is a worthless piece of shit, that's his nature. And why Doraemon was sent to correct him.
>>291933292The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If that's his nature then we know where he got it from.
>>291914010So like the true and tried methods of African villages that have existed for centuries, right? Or the true and tried methods of the Muslims/Orthodox Jews?>no I mean the based and redpilled tradcath ancestorsYou're a retard basing your views on vibes and aesthetics.
>>291912425Sounds like you just had shitty parents too and this is how you cope with that fact.
>>291927874>, but the japaneseLiterally 90% of western sitcoms do the same shit
>>291912425yeah it was hilariously bad parenting then and it's hilariously bad parenting now. just because kid managed to live to adulthood and is normal from the outside doesn't mean shit. you just raised already pre-buckbroken goy for the system that will gladly take it up the ass.
>>291911861You dislike functional mom beating you over misbehaving? How about dysfunctional mom beating you over nothing?
>>291934324That's most single moms
>>291911861Well to be fair Nobita was dumb as shit I am surprised they didn't treat him harsher than what they showed in the anime and Gian is bumass who always bullies kids so he deserves the abuse he gets.
