https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20261027/p2g/00m/0et/051000cTetsuya Chiba, creator of Japan's boxing manga series 'Ashita no Joe,' dies at 87Rest in peace
>>291886271Are there good Japanese boxers and fighters in general? Also RIP
>>291886271Why does the reaper knock so soon for the good ones...RIP
>>291886299Dude was 87, that's a good long life
Good night, sweet prince...
He lived a good life
>>291886271RIP confirmed bro
HEY JOEEE
>>291886271Alexa play Midnight Blues - by Ichiro ArakiRIP Chiba-san
>>291886271ok
>>291886271Damn, man. RIP.
>>291886299>soon
>>291886271Damn. Right as I was getting into Ashita no Joe too. May he rest in peace.
RIP
George soon to follow
>>291886289https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoya_InoueThe GOAT is still active today.
who cares
>>291886499Thank you, who.
>>291886271All that remains is pure white ash...RIP king.
thought he was older.
rip man... it's hard to understate just how influential he was in the manga sphere and out
>>291886271Chiba and Kajiwara were always a real odd couple. Chiba was a hippie that dreamed about world peace, Kajiwara hung out with Yakuza members and regularly got into brawls. Joe I think, really got the most out of that mixture.
>>291886488Who are you calling a garbage fellow?
One of the most influential figures in manga. People have probably seen a reference to it in one way or another through the shows they've watched and don't even know.
joe...
>the guy who voices most of the looney tunes characters died earlier today>and then walter koenig>now thiswhat the fuck happened man
I just read Ashita no Joe this year, I had no idea the mangaka was still alive. RIP to an amazing author and artist.
>>291886271RIP
>>291886667full moon
Urge to not post *that* pic....
>>291886271Rip
>>291886299hate you fags that gotta act extra gay for creator deaths like this, guy actually reached a decent age to pass away, above average even.
You know, in the manga, when Joe gets sent to juvenile detention, it's pretty high security but otherwise just some place. In the anime adaptation, they change it to be on island. Which is fine, you know, make it a little spicier, except there's a story arc where Joe successfully does a jailbreak with the pigs. And the whole thing is that he could just walk but way, but intentionally chooses to go back to the detention center. In the manga that makes sense, but in anime, he's still stranded on the island. Kind of robs the scene of its significance, you know?
>>29188629987, he was a fucking kid
>>291886681You have to tho. As a sign of respect. The guy had guts to end his series the way he did. It still stuck with people decades later.
>>291886299At least he lived a long life, too many good people are dying way too early these days
>>291886271Thanks for making Joe man. Bawled my eyes out at the end. RIP
Rest in peacehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fyxUdFTNU
>>291886271Fuck. I need to read Joe
>>29188629987 is ancient for a mangaka. Normally, the lifestyle kills them off in their 50s.
>>291886606>>291886810I'm sure the man did not pass away in a cuck chair like this character
>>291886271Rip. He lived a good long life.
>>291886271So young. RIP
>>291886799Me? I'm an old man.
>>291886271Just as Bleach gave him a tribute character.RIP sweet prince.>>29188629987, he was a fucking kid.
>>291886932I’ll give a (You) for the attempt. But you need to try harder.
>>291886799Literally in diapers at that age.
>>291886271RIP. Pressing F. I hope he turned to pure white ash on the way out.
Struck down in his prime, RIP.
>>291886299It's a fucked up world we live in when kids as young as 87 are dropping like flies...
ASHITA WA DOCCHI DAAAAA
Rip. At least 87 is actually old.
RIPBeen meaning to read the series but fuck man, F.
>>291886271F
>>291886606>>291886810god that's so fucking obvious, i knew i was going to see this before i opened the thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiXte5zpciU
I didn't even know he was sick
>>291886271Holy fuuuuuuuuuuuckHey Joe...
>>291886271My favorite manga of all time, F
>>291886271RIPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fyxUdFTNU
>>291886271We lost a good one. I'm sorry he is gone, however I'm happy he made it so long for a mangaka. Hopefully he passed peacefully surrounded by loved ones.
He needed more oxygen
Rest in peace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYx_NPX2nwE
>>291886271rip>>291886289japan has been historically a power house in the lower divisions and right now they have one of the best boxers in naoya inoue
>>291886271RIP;_;7
>>291886271He was a fucking kid
He burned his fire out until there was nothing left but white ash.>>291887135>japan has been historically a power house in the lower divisions and right now they have one of the best boxers in naoya inouewell, yeahthey're short as fuck over there
>>291886271RIP you legend.
>>291886271fuck. rest in peace ;_;7
>>291886271Literally who?
>>291886271RIPhe lived a good long life. Outlived Yamanaka Joe.
rest in peace
I'm getting worried, Go Nagaibros...
>>291886271Rest in peace legend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYVwS5XHfqI
>>291886271NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wonder how Morikawa's handling the news
>>291886271Why are so many famous people dying this year?
>>291886271I'm genuinely surprised he was still alive until today
Post pages or panels from his manga that you like.
FIs Morikawa next? I dont see him finishing Ippo at this point
>>291886667Hopefully it stops now rather than going for a 4th one
>>291887286Togashi is next. Dude has been sick for decades.
>>291887230Because you specifically are old.
GET UP CHIBAGET UP
>>291886271Been on my back log for a while. Guess I better get it finished this week F
>>291887147other nations with manlets have been able to produce elite boxers at higher divisions, also its not like they dont have tall guys, they just decide to take the sumo or boreball route instead
If you had asked me before today I would have assumed he was already dead given how old the manga was.
>>291886667>/co/ >then /tv/ >then /a/ /v/ is next, but I wonder who
>>291887332copeadelicious
I didn't expect that he was still alive until recently. I though he has been dead decades ago like Tezuka and any other Showa mangaka.
F to one of the most influential greats.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crNafZnse68
RIP;_;7
>>291887345Gaben
>>291887384Sleeping 'flushes' your brain of a lot of toxins, so he was right
>>291887408That would be apocalyptic
>>291886799had his whole life ahead of him!
RIP LEGEND
>>291886435Fuck off.
>>291886271Rest in peace.
>>291886271Didn't know he was still aroundF
>>291886271The greatest to ever do it. RIP. ;_;
>>291886932According to Chiba, Joe wasn't meant to be dead and he just drew that page last minute as he didn't like Takamori's original ending that was pitched where we were to see Joe recovering at Yoko's in the final page and looking out aimlessly.Chiba would eventually draw that later as an illustration though.Either way you see it, Joe's boxing career was done for and he would've had to live through years of CTE and other after-effects.
>>291886271I've never heard of Ashita no Joe, is it an isekai?
>>291887492Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.
>>291886271R I P.
Goddamn...RIP>>291887473Cozy as hell
>>291886271An absolute titan of the industry, an incredible artist who has left behind a huge legacy. May he rest in peace O7
>>291886271One of the best, very high on my list.
>>291887230You are now 30+. All the people you looked up to as a kid are reaching old age. The remnants of the world you grew up with are dying.
>>291886271GG
>>291886271RIP. I guess that's the cue to start reading Joe.
Nice
>>291887492Now im just thinking about a boxing isekai.
God damnit, rip
>>291887577I've read karate and baseball isekai, but never heard of a boxing onealso, F
>>291887577not related by much but i miss kemono michi and my jewish wife
>sportsNormalfag trash.
>>291886271Rest in peace
>>291886299>Soon87 is a good, long life. Just pray he had family with him.
Damn son. He's been around for some time. RIP
tebuye
>>291886271Ashita no Joe is genuinely one of the best out there, now might be a good time to read some of his other work. Rest in peace.>>291886799Some say he was the youngest kid ever.
>>29188679987? out of 100!
Leiji Matsumoto and Chiba were great friends and once went to Machu Picchu where they enjoyed high altitude thin air sickness that made everything look golden, literal city of gold. Both gone now. Here he's seen at Matsumoto's funeral which wasn't that long back, with Goku's voice seen too (we've already lost Masako Ikeda, Maetel to her Tetsuro in GE999). Legendary figures walk off into the sunset....JOOOOOOOOEEEE ! ! !
Won't ever forget Joe or Chiba. Rest in peace.
>>291886271R.I.P. to one of the greatest mangaka of all time.
Meh, I have more respect for Ikki Kajiwara. Imagine writing both Joe and KnH.
>>291886271RIP LEGEND
>>291887345Obviously Kojimbles
>>291886962Wait what?
RIP Legend, one of my favorite manga an anime of all time
>>291886271test
F
>>291886271F, I'll see you in the Azure Sky my friend
>>291886271Is he dead because he tank punch with his face like joe?
>>291887632Im white trash and i watch sports and i read sports manga
>>291886271F. What a guy
>>291886667They always kill them in batches like this, something bad is probably going to happen soon
>>291886271Rest In Peace
>>291886271In two weeks, AI will find the key to reserving aging. Too bad he didn't make it.
>>291888109We already have the cure to aging though. You must simply stop the breathing
>>291886740maybe he could've swum ashore, idk
>McDonald's>McDonald's, JapanTheir 200% kobe beef hambaagus folded a thousand times make you live long.
>>291886667people die when they die
I REMEMBA
>>291886271RIP LEGEND F
Ficonic series, a truly great work
>>291886271Goddamn it just keeps coming this month. RIP.
Joe is my favorite manga of all time. Thank you Chiba.
>>291886289there used to have top tier fighters in the pride (toughest) era of mma
>>291886271>87Not bad, could have lasted a little longer though RIP, guess i finally have to take out of the backlog.
>>291887296>>291887345Imagine some Nintendo dev dying, /v/ would be shitposting for weeks
>>291886271Aw man...
RIPliving until 87 is a great run, meanwhile newbie mangaka like takeru hackazono already wanted to kill himself from a weekly serialization at the ripe age of 26yo
>>291888310Why? What is it about it that makes it your favourite?
>>291886271>Ashita no JoeWho cares?
>>291886271rip
Whoa... He was still alive??
Post all the ashita no joe references you know.
Rest In Power, sensei.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCKlctijzhg&list=RDsCKlctijzhg&start_radio=1
>>291888504The main writer died like 40 years ago but this is the artist who died today
>>291886271Fuck man, RIPI remember.
>>291888527the original writer was a beast
>>291887299oh shit, you're right! Probably within the next year actually based on what I read recently
>attention whoring zoomers with learning deficit are showing up whenever a mangaka passed away gets a stickyevery fucking time>>291888510
>>291887485Regardless if Joe lived with the consequences of punch drunk syndrome, or simply died, it's tragically fitting. He ignored his own health to keep boxing obsessively, and while that kind of live is where he was at his happiest, going as far as he did while ignoring his body's health would have consequences.
>>291886799Tetsuya Chiba, whatever happened there.
>>291886271Should I read/watch Ashita no Joe? I liked Ippo well enough
>>291886679the mother taketh her children just as she borne them, along the tide
>>291888559hey dork
>>291888555What a hell of a biography.
>>291886271>87finally someone dying at a normal age
>>291886271watch this interview from 6 years agohttps://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7xph4z
>>291888574Joe and Rikiishi were examples of what NOT to do with your life. Boxing is not for the faint of heart. Every low raked boxer is out there getting punched in the face for scraps. They could be doing anything else, but boxing is their paths. There was no other path for Rikiishi and Joe other than boxing. But at the same time, Joe understood that life doesn't hold any value if you live in a cage. Him not settling down is why so many people find Joe inspiring, because he traded his life for living genuinely, even if it resulted in tragedy.I guess people want to have their cake and eat it too. They want Joe to have had a genuine fulfilling life but not in boxing. It's a very coward interpretation because they cant handle how ingenuine their own lives are in comparison to Joe's. They don't wanna accept that living genuinely is risky, because they've been told their entire lives that risk is to be avoided.
>>291886799it's sad when they go young like that
>>291886271See you again
>>291886271Damn RIP
RIP. Ashita no Joe is iconic.
>>291886271RIP King.
https://x.com/haratetsuo_jp/status/2114950694025486477
>>291888740not really
>>291887218best version of the song for sure but can’t help liking this one morehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWHtLueuj-k
>>291886289Asians train the brain more than the muscles
>>291888647To be fair there are non-contact sports
>>291886271Ore wa Teppei is my favorite.
>>291886271RIP. Thank you for making Joe, no other character has influenced me like him ;_;7https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5Cnp42d8qk
>>291886271RIP, or Sayonara as the Japanese say
>>291886271Rest In Peace. Thank you for your impact.
F. He was just a kid
>>291888763I hate the Dalit invasion of this website, Jesus christ. Look at this post.
>>291886271S
>>291886271damn this guy was very influential
>>291888510
>>291888555Japan needs to begin funding their criminal to manga writer pipeline.
>>291888555how is this real WTF
RIP old man
>>291886271Kubo gave the best tribute to him by including Danpei in the Bleach anime finale.
>>291886667bad omen. expect a 2027 plague
I love the large panels and full-on splash pages with a whole bunch of extras, usually the people of the shanty town or the crowd during matches. They all look unique and there's always something funny going on in a corner like someone getting punched or hit by a thrown object. Very Carl Barks-esque, I wonder if Chiba was directly inspired.
>>291889168hell yeah
>>291886271>[Breaking news]Did you really have to add this, you twat?
>>291888978Think of it like a woman complaining. It's irrelevant, it doesn't amount to anything, it's only here for the sake of attention. You move on, and that's enough for them to double down elsewhere.
>>291886271literally whomst've
>>291886271Wow, rest in peace.
>>291886271Thank you for making awesome mangaRIP
Dude 87 is too young
>>291888510Some are just reference jokes. Joe jokes.
god he was one of my favourite illustrators and the way his work translated to the anime especially with shingo araki's work elevated that shit as the best it could ever be, >>291888574 is still so fucking hauntinghadn't read his other work yet but with many of the showa artists especially sampei shirato and kazuo koike's passing a few years ago we're starting to approach the end of an era, i greatly worry for the year 24 group...
>>291887230>this yearAnon, this happens every year. You only notice it when it's people you specifically care about
>>291886799HEY PHIL, HOW MANY YEARS DID YA DO IN THE CAN
>>291886271RIP.
>Japanese man dies from old age instead of karoshiBig if true.
RIP, I love Ashita no Joe.
>>291886271God damn, we lost a legendRIP
We're going to lose her in our life time as well, and now my heart feels dry and tired.
>>291888434No? Pride was still dominated by gaijins.
He lived a long life, we can just hope it he left it with few regrets. Thanks old man>>291888571hey, at least there is some recognition. Would you prefer a thread full of ironic "hurr durr literally who" shitposting?Let them pay respect, as little as it may be>>291889470>>291888510>even a fucking yuri comedy manga had a Ashita no Joe reference
>>291886667>the guy who voices most of the looney tunes charactersMel Blanc was still alive?
>>291888510The real challenge is to find a reference that doesn't pay homage to the final scene.Can't blame them though, it was that iconic
>>291887366He's not wrong. The spirit of joe inspired a ton of japs to get into combat sports in general and there were a good few MMA fighters from there ranging from many weight weight classes.
Ashita no Joe is such a great manga. Its now being published on my country and its such a delight to read on paper. This is so sad to hear. Rest in peace.
>>291886271One of the very few sports manga I love and a fantastic series in general, RIP. At least I am glad he reached such a good age.
>>291886271I thought he was already dead. And would be older. Rest in peace to a real one. To my shame I've only ever read Joe from him, but I don't think anything else from him is available in english.
>>291887230Certain decades bring forth certain types of talents. It's like 2016 where it felt like half of all important musicians and actors where dying because the 60s and 70s revolutionized music and media in many ways and the ones doing that were young adults by then, meaning that they were born in the 40s or 50s. Those people simply reached the mid 70s or 80s post 2016 so it's natural to see most of them dying. It's like how most of my family and every older dude I knew died when I turned 30s. Age difference. When I turn 30 they turn 70 and that's sadly when many people die.
>>291888555And today they get cancelled for adultery in Japan and piracy is considered a war crime. What happened?
>not having joe forever playing in the threaduseless fucking mods. F
>>291890232feminized society
>>291890232I mean a guy was able to have a healthy career after sexually abusing an underage girl, although the company made him go under a pseudonym to do it before he got exposed. And thrn they hid another one under that same company
>>291890232>piracy is considered a war crime. What happened?Capitalism?
>>291886271to be specific he was the artist for the series while ikki kajiwara (pen name) served as writer but his art is obviously essential to what made the joe an all time classic
>>291890519>>291890579>>291890232Engagement bait samefaggingGo away
>>291890602Take your meds.
it's joeverF
>>291886613i think when it comes to manga people tend to focus on authors that look like singular geniuses (even when they have a shadow team of assistants helping out) but manga like joe really demonstrate what kind of masterpieces can be made when you put the right people together
>>291886271still haven't watched itrip
>>291886271Rest in peace. 87 is good though.
>>291888555This explains a bit about Ashita no Joe.
>>291888647Joe is like, Rumiko Takahashi's favorite manga protagonist and so many people go on about how inspiring he is. I am a bit at odds with it, but I guess I just struggle understanding that fighting spirit Japanese people harp about.
>>291886271R.I.P.
Enormous F, what a legend
>>291890961>I guess I just struggle understanding that fighting spirit Japanese people harp aboutForget about japanese spirit, it's about the warrior's pride and the feeling that, even if it's a life without many other prospects or even if it kills you, it's the only place where you feel alive/loved, and that happens in every cultureNever seen pic related?
>>291890961Low T will do that
>>291887577>>291887596It’s not popular, the era of boxing is gone.
>>291890904He looks a bit like Bobby from KOTH.
>>2918911863/10
>>291891186Mods, banned this kid
>>291886271Eh, that slop looks like it was only popular because its old and boomers have le nostalgia for itIf Ashita no Joe came out today no one would read it
>>291888555>a life of alcohol, gluttony, meth and crime>necrotizing fulminant pancreatits>100% death rate>100%>"sir you have like 2 hours to live, ops">he fucking survives for 5 more yearsHoly fucking shit
>>291886271Gurren Lagann reference based.
>>291886271RIPTime to finish the anime in his name
>>291886299He was just an 87 year old teenager....
>>291891186The irony is that Koyoharu would curse your bloodline for even typing that shit
>>291891308He was simply too angry to die
>>291886496Does this Inoue fella carry the spirit of Joe? How long does he have to remain on top and how come I've never heard of him?
>thought about him out of the blue after not doing so for years>he dies a couple days laterwhat the same thing happened with hiromi tsuru. Am I cursing them.
What was that?You're saying I should re-read Ashita no Joe?Well, if you insist...
>>291888555>He survived thanks to the physical strength he had cultivated over many yearsyou can beat a disease in a fist fight?
>>291886271I don't really care tbdesuh
>>291886271I'LL REMEMBERRRRJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEE
>>291887638why the fuck would you pray that his family died with him? you're sick.
>>291891421I have a couple names for you brb going to look for them.
>>291891414Check the weight class. These days if you're not in the Heavyweight class no one cares. Boxing doesn't have the cultural pull it used to, even if you have geniuses like Inoue still out there.
>>291889901>Let them pay respect, as little as it may beI guess it makes sense they don't have to be dramatic when it comes to express condolences. But every sticky threads like this from 2020 to now have been infested with newfags who are so far up their own asses to have the same retarded mindset of an emo kid who makes this 'not caring' attitude their whole personality to the point they want to be noticed by people who do not care that they do not care of something they claim they do not care about.I know this board is rotten of anons who are mostly failednormalfags who still are just as judging as the normalfags that they hate irl but I'll be damned if they really act like this past their 20s every time someone who was good sports passed away.
>>291886271May this legend rest in peace
>>291891706>Boxing doesn't have the cultural pull it used toI was wondering where the generation inspired by Ashita no Joe went. Even if they're small I thought there would be more notable champions from there.None of these nips are even in the UFC even though they were supposed to be important in MMA. They never had a world MMA champion too.Maybe I overestimated how inspiring Joe was to these generations of nips.
>>291886271For tomorrow...
>>291891881Aside revolutioneering the term 'nekketsu' and inspired the youth at the time not in just boxing,It did inspire a group to do a plane hijackhttps://dot.asahi.com/books/articles/-/65355?page=3
>sports manga Yikes but rip
>>291886271Only 87? I figured he was older.
>>291891881>Maybe I overestimated how inspiring Joe was to these generations of nipsOf course anonBecause we've always read Slam Dunk or Captain Tsubasa during our youths thinking "man, i wish i were playing some sports right now", and not thinking instead about the value of teamwork, friends, responsible authority figures, or simply the need to improve ourselves in generalSarcasm aside, the point is that beyond the initial boom in that particular subject, the reason these stories become memorable are not the sport per se
>>291886271rest in peace.
>>291891705who
>>291886271RIPposting in a rare /a/ sticky
>>291890155Which way is tomorrow, Chiba?
>>291891881Tbf, the boxing in Joe is largely incidental. It just uses boxing as a vehicle for class commentary and social drama.
>>291892223Let's start with Anonymous of 4chan.
>>291886271Damn
>>291886299I smirked, fuck you anon.
>>291886271Farewell to a great legend.Rest in peace.
>>291886271I REMEMBEEEERJOEEEEE
>>291886271damnnever read ashita no joe or anything, but damnhow the hell do you live to be eighty-seven after being a mangaka for so long
>>291892701Push ups, sit ups, and juice.
>>291886271I tried to watch it but the art looked like shit
>>291886271A legend.
>>291892701You sleep. >>291887384, Shigeru was 93
His Order of Culture recognition is still the most prestigious award to anyone in the world of manga and anime. He's the only one with it.The man saw the raise of manga's recognition in real time, getting a Medal of Honor in 2002 and a middle rank Order of the Rising Sun in 2012, before this highest honor in 2024.
>>291886271RIPHEY JOEI REMEMBER
>>291886299HE WAS ONLY 87 YOU BASTARD
What is his best manga besides AnJ (which was actually written by Asao Takamori)? It seems to be something between Ashita Tenki ni Naare, Notari Matsutarou and Ore wa Teppei.
>>291886271So many legends in our business has been taken away this year WTF.RIP
RIP.
>>291892287Amusing opinion. Go look up other series by Ashita no Joe's writer and find out how "incidental" the boxing is.
>>291886271BIG F, RIP for the half of the creators of the best manga ending ever made.
>>291886271I can't believe this happened pretty much the same day Bleach ended and Kubo revealed an AnJ tribute as his final surprise character Respect.Ashita no Joe is the perfect story, the shonen genre got solved at the very start.
Only 335 posts, damn Chiba Tetsuya fell off. R.I.P
>>291886271Fucking hell, RIP
>>291888647>Joe and Rikiishi were examples of what NOT to do with your life.Rikiishi's chapters where he's losing weight to fight Joe were so damn unnerving. It gets more tragic if you think about it, because after the fight, Joe went on a growth spurt, which could have put him on another weight class. So if Joe had lost his fight against Wolf, his rematch with Rikiishi could be delayed long enough for Joe to go through that growth spurt, and Rikiishi wouldn't have to go down TWO weight classes to have that rematch.>>291890961It's inspiring because Joe started as a hobo wandering from town to town, being a con-artist and getting into fights, and by the manga's end he was a world class boxer. It feels pretty genuine because Joe took his sweet time even getting interested in boxing, since initially he didn't even care about Danpei teaching boxing and just wanted money. Even without the whole Japanese spirit angle, the development of his life is pretty organic.
Waiting now for all the tribute art from fellow mangakas
>>291893113I think Hotaru Minako is the best one he wrote. Gaki is often praised as well.
>>291893574>I can't believe this happened pretty much the same day Bleach ended and Kubo revealed an AnJ tribute as his final surprise characterWas he dying and they delay was for that?
I'd like to hear from Hox about these news, if they ever reach him.
>>291893821Why do so many of you fags treat Hox like a friend simulator
>>291886271Damn...
>>291886271Let's not forget the writer of Ashita no Joe, Tiger Mask and Hoshi no Kyojin. A man who passed away in 1987 at the age of 50. RIP.
>>291893850Friend simulator? I just followed the releases as he was making them years ago and appreciate his commentary from time to time.
>>291886317That's like 107 for a manga artist, GG.
>>291886271There is still A LOT of untranslated works from himhttps://mangadex.org/author/bb386677-86cf-43ee-bc3d-28f3bb4bdf4e/chiba-tetsuyaAt the very least, I would like to read the rest of his autobiography in manga form.
>>291887577>Now im just thinking about a boxing isekaiThere are a couple dozen martial arts or hand to hand combat isekais but not specifically just boxing
>>291886271RIP legend
Was the cross-counter even a thing before Ashita no Joe?>>291893574Clearly he knew....or he asked about his condition beforehand>hey, how's old man Chib-.....oh, noAnd figured to the tribute before the end
HEY JOEI REMEMBER JOOOOOOEEEEEI'ILL REMEMBER YOU FOREVER
>>291886271People really don’t talk enough about how awesome it was that the creator let you see the main character actually grow up!!! You rarely see that in today’s Manga. (Obviously Pic related is untranslated)
>>291886271I hope the Ippo author is next
>>291886271Rest in heaven, legend.
356 posts./a/ has fallen...4chan is dead.
I guess it's the right time to ask, how much Joe is in Megalobox? I've heard something along the lines of it heavily inspired by Joe.
>>291894783What do you expect when it's just the same generals with bots dumping the same images over and over again
>>291894909It's a zoomer reinterpretation, not very good really. What made Joe great is it being written by a post-war boomer who saw some shit.
>>291894783
>>291886271>Tetsuya Chiba, creator of Japan's boxing manga series 'Ashita no Joe,' rip one of the greatest
>>291894783nobody knows him, he barely gets a reaction anywhere outside 4chanyou only get attention if ur a mainstream shonen manga or one of the few seinen people know about and larp
>>291894909The sequel that's a better job than the original. The OST is very good, the story is so-so.
>>291886271>no Ashita, Joe
>thread is slow as fuckExpected from a literal who. Wake me up when someone important and relevant dies.
>>291886271hopefully joji finishes ippo soon before he faces the same fate
>>291886289Inoue destroys livers more than alcohol. Also, boxing became really big in Japan many decades ago and still is now.
>>291895039Posting nardo in this thread is so gross. You should be ashamed of yourself.
rest in paradise
>>291890155Which way is tomorrow, Chiba
dude lived a wild life. that's why manga like Joe doesn't get made anymore, you don't have dudes like that anymoe.
>>291890016These old showbiz Jews live forever. >Kirk Douglas>Mel Brooks>Bill ShatnerI’m forgetting some
Big F. Rikishi's training arc and death were the most fantastic stuff I'd seen in an anime.
>>291894783Quality over quantity
>>291894199
/vr/ here, RIP legend.
>>291895599>Wake me up when someone important and relevant dies.Who is more important and relevant than him? Go Nagai, Rumiko, Kazuhiro Fujita, Adachi Mitsuru!?
>>291896370Nagai is just as important as him
>>291887701That's not how the meme works.
>>291896370Masami Kurumada's pretty important.
>>291896529He was supposed to die at 100!
>>291886317That's young for a Japanese. I'm sure he didn't even reach Japanese retirement ageHe had so many years before himRequiescat In PaceSit tibi terra levis
RIP>>291887054Nothing wrong with going for the low hanging fruit sometimes.
RIPmanga wouldn't be the same without him
>>291886271Even Yukio Mishima liked his manga (although Chiba only drew illustrations)>Mishima especially loved reading the boxing manga Ashita no Joe in Weekly Shōnen Magazine every week.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima
>>291886271>87Not bad, even for Japanese standardsSee you, space cowboy!
>>291890586>>291896759Chiba wasn't just drawing, he came up with big parts of the story. He was actively involved.
>>291893113>>291896909https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz4iYyeB1W8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmVD2IcbcVwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouupGsVrOmA
>>291896909exactly but try to explain that to the niggs here
>>291886271RIP. This scene >>291886606 is probably among the most referenced ones in manga and anime, isn't it?
I have to admit. When i watched Ashita no Joe, it was the first time i wished with all my heart that the MC was totally fucking beaten. Joe is such a piece of shit in the first 15-20 episodes. But probably, is also the reason why it feels so cathartic how he matures and becomes such a proudful boxer. The brutality of the anime, despite being just boxing is almost scary.
>>291886271FUCKING F
>>291888510 from a manga i recently started rereading, since the scanlation efforts for it have started up again
NOOOOOOOO MY HERO DIED NO ON NO NOO IM PUNCHING THE AIR RIGHT NOW (HEAVY ANGUISHED ANGRY CRYING NOISES)ARGHHHH WHYYYY HE WAS SO YOUNG TOO
>>291897436No.
>>291886271Will they make him a tombstone?
>>291897614Yes, watching it without prior info one would expect him to get into it as soon after Danpei protected him. Its great how it take a sweet time make him get into boxing
>>291897614 joe was right though. the police suck and most adults/rich folk are exploiters
>>291886271>Fight Night gets revived>Tetsuya diesDamn....
>>291895793>can't even contain his seethe about naruto just from seeing an imagekeep seething
>>291897614>the episodes where Danpei left Joe to himself to teach him the loneliness of boxingI know Joe was a real punk towards the beginning but those were some harsh episodes.
>>291897970Ashita no Joe was specifically written for the working class/students, so its super critical about the 70's Japanese inequality between the rich and the poor, when japanese slums were super common
>>291891186KEK this. So performative.
>>291886271>sticky>only 1k posts
>>291888510>Jashinchan Dropkick X episode 11 desuneigh*********************************************************...**************************:OOO0ld.*********************;'xdKxdxldd*****.**************.oo0OXx0NOOd****.;**************,OkN000KoOxc.****ooc;,'..**.*****Okxdodl0Od.*******dkkOkdc.,******lokdlkK0:*** *********xkkkl******o:lkxKKK**** **********k:ccl.***;kxxl0KKO**** ***********llclOxdcokOox0K0***** *************:kOko:cxlkKK*******************RIP-MR-Chiba*****
I wish that series from a few years back that was a mix between a comic diary and his youth in Manchuria/a repatriated Japanese was still being translated. Even into his 80s he was still a great artist.>>291886606There's the famous anecdote about how Yukio Mishima and the Japanese Red Army Faction were both fans of Ashita no Joe.
>>291898273Have some respect for Chiba sensei, ye little lower-class one season Demon.
>>291886271RIP a real one
>>291898392He did good man, he did good.
>>291898188 i think it's neat how you get to see tokyo's postwar transformation taking place around joe i think right around the middle there's a journalist bemoaning how higher-tech boxing gyms seem to indicate that japanese boxing had lost its hungry spirit the appeal of joe's character is that he never loses this hunger...
>>291898447I'm gonna get ready for a sit down to watch some Joe, have a good one
>>291898351 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Flight_351 >Approximately 20 minutes after takeoff, a young man named Takamaro Tamiya got up from his seat, drew a katana and shouted, "We are Ashita no Joe!" kinda based dehsoo
>>291897614The animation in Ashita no Joe is better than you'd expect for the time period.
>>291886271Eigthyseven is a proud age to reach.While I was never much of a fan of Ashita no Joe (or stories of that kind in general), I won't deny its influence and importance. And, perhaps more importantly, I have to note that I always found the artstyle impressive, with its high level of detail. Quite a contraced to the more reduced styles that were more common at the time.This news made me realize that I've never actually read any of his other work. I probably should. Particularly the non-sports manga from his early career do intrigue me.Rest in peace, sensei.
>>291898273?
He could really convey emotions with his drawings.
I wonder if Joe would be as iconic if Chiba went with the original ending. It's somehow more sad than the OG but doesn't hit as hard.
>>291896909>>291897331Okay but do you constantly minimize the actual writer's contributions?
>>291898832What about if he went with this ending?
>>291898612Take care man.
>>291898910 harimao's just happy to be there lmao
>>291888612This leaves out that he had a daughter with a Taiwanese pop star and said daughter was in the '90s kidnapped and murdered by Triads as part of an extortion scheme which then turned into a months long manhunt, multiple shootouts and a South African diplomat and his family being taken hostage.
>>291898910This is just your quintessential shounen anime ending, also>They invited fucking Harimao but not Kim
>>291898832what was the original ending idea, Joe ends with punch drunk syndrome?
>>291899017 kim was a fairly decent depiction of koreans for the time, the game devs probably hated his ass if i had to guess
>>291898832>>291898910I don't think Joe remaining a crippled bum and Yoko's kept man would have been a very well received ending. Wouldn't have been well received even now that things like househusbands are more acceptable, not that Joe would ever be a good one, nor that Yoko would even need one to begin with, much much less back then.
>>291888555Clearly the writer put a lot of himself into Joe, this makes his acts of delinquency before juvie seem basically autobiographical.
>>291896549>Masami Kurumada's pretty importantOnly if he finishes Saint Seiya
>>291886271We are missing 80% of his works in Englishhttps://www.mangaupdates.com/author/38ewhpt/chiba-tetsuya?orderby=year
>>291899013Also said daughter was tortured, mutilated and killed days before the scheduled exchange and her body parts found in a drainage pipe. He had it hard.
>>291899341just ask AI to translate the rawsscanlations are dead
>>291887286Makes me wonder if he will finish the current fight.
>>291899357*ditch
>>291899357She was also raped. They chopped off at least one her fingers and sent it to her mother. Horrible stuff.
>>291899069IIRC, Joe still loses the fight with Mendoza, but later he would be shown sitting somewhere outside the ring with Yoko gazing tenderly at him. I don't know if >>291898832 is a fan recreation of that or something Chiba himself drew, but either way Joe would be unambiguously alive, even if his boxing career would probably be over after Mendoza.
>>291899431Finish the fight Morikawa Master Chief.
>>291886271Fuck, F
It's better if Joe dies. Kajiwara was right.
Inferior to IPPO but F.
>>291900011Ippo is brainless shounenshit. Joe is an actual story.
>>291899357Man, this is fucking brutal.
>>291899962 the hate left his body because he believed he finally stuck it to the man it would feel cheap if he just became some other rich person's autistic dog afterwards
>>291888555>>291899013>>291899357>yazuka and gangs are such good people bro! they are saviors unlike the police!
>>291893890https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Pai_Hsiao-yenHis daughters case is interesting, always sawit compared to Junko Furuta for some reason
Isn't there a point at which the first part of the anime becomes anime original? Up to what episode do I watch the original and then go to AnJ2?Also glad that some time ago someone finally uploaded a proper high bitrate/quality rip of AnJ2. Those chrunchyroll rips weren' the most pleasant to look at.
>>291899357>a photograph was leaked to the mass mediaThat's horrible. Is it still around?
>>291886667>walter koenigso it's just shatner and takei now...
>>291900392Episode 54 is a good cutoff point
>>291899357He died years before this happened so at least he didn't have to experience it. That is some vile shit.
>>291900392 the part with the joe doing rigged fights in the sticks is actually a thing from the manga that AnJ2 decided to omit the stuff afterwards with carlos is mostly original though i don't think it should necessarily be discarded it's like skipping the last episode of ideon you've gotta respect these works on their own merit
>>291886271Can't wait for Kamogawa to die. Fuck these old fossils with not sense of pacing.
>>291900779>kamogawathe larp doesn't end with you fucks
>>291900821what is the mentality for doing such anyway?
>>291886271Peace to him, and his loved ones, and all those who loved him and his good works as well
Mochizuki Akira still lives.
Haven't read it and probably never will, but RIP.
>>291886799Gotta feel for these people who die at this juncture when we're just a couple years away from AI powered immortality. It's like those poor soldiers who got shot during the last day of WWII. The people of the not so distant future will look back at this age in horror like we look back at our distant ancestors, half of which died as infants and the other half died in their 40s at the latest. So yeah, he was just a kid.
>>291886271>sticky with 400 repliesyeah.I don't really care about this guy
>>291886271Are the movies worth watching over the TV series especially when over half of the first one is filler that gets ignored in the sequel?
>>291901524you mean anj? the only filler of s1 is like the last 10 episodes because they ran out of manga, the second season covers roughly the same material as post ep 51 but skips a lot of stuff too
>>291889870Kazushi Sakuraba was THE guy in the early pride years.They also had Gomi and Kazuo Misaki. Both were champions there.But you would've thought there would be more MMA fighters inspired by Ashita no Joe, too bad there aren't as many today.
>>291886271Rest in peace, champ.
>>291901588Manga it is then. Its only 20 volumes anyways
>>291886289https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAs-42epY7w fat bastard yuropean against japanese
>>291901826>only 20 volumes20 is supposed to be a lot, anon.One Piece and other contemporary shounen have really ruined people's perception of what a well-told story actually looks like.
volumes aside, a star wars trilogy is not even 20 eps
>>291901427I hope it's that close. For sure it's within the next couple of hundred years. It would suck to be the last generation that has to suffer all the crippling deficits of old age and die young.
>>291901427>>291902191Bait or underage?
I don't even want to live forever. My grandparents are already dead so I know my parents don't want to live forever and if they don't want to live forever then I don't. I've already lost too much.
>>291902321Your character arc isn't over yet anon.
>>291888555What a story.
>>291899406>ust ask AI to translate the rawsHell no, AI is awful at translations
>>291886271RIP and condolences to his family.
>>291894783Yeah I would have expected the thread to be more active.
>>291902688Kids these days don't read the Classics.
>>291901524The first series is a masterpiece. All of it.
>>291902705 i can't even get people to watch 0079 mang shit is bleak
Rip
RIP champ.
>>291902866Bright slap should work.
>>291886271he was just fucking a a kid... poor guy
>>291902866amuro < kiraglory to hiraiface
I met Masao Maruyama at a convention and he said one of the things he was most grateful to experience first-hand was seeing anime become something made for adults with Ashita no JoeHe also said he wrote a lot of the anime himself under a pen name since so many lines got cut from the screenplay that the writers ended up quitting, the director basically told him YOU DO IT and he was like>well I guess I'll write a general guidelineHe also waited in line for 3 hours with everyone else to surprise Hiroshi Nagahama and ask for a self portrait, since he originally started at Madhouse, which Maruyama co-founded
>>291886271I hate waking up to bad newsRIP
George Morikawa (Hajime no Ippo) wrote this.
>>291903320FUCK saten
>>291886271Does he have any other series besides Ashita no Joe that are recommended
>>291899183Yeah part of what makes Joe iconic is that he was made to fight and when he couldn't fight anymore that was it. The final page is great because maybe he dies in the ring, maybe he doesn't, but his career is over either way and he rose from nothing to become a legend and goes out either way content with how things have gone having made something of himself on his own terms.>>291901900Inoki is another guy whose real life is more ridiculous than any fiction you could ever write about him.
>>291893667>>291891092I have not seen that film. And yeah, that's fair. I am evaluating the work from an incomplete picture. I just have heard the "what not to do" thing here before and it just doesn't track. >>291891115Yeah, yeah. But it isn't like all the old Japanese ladies who adore the work are brimming with testosterone driven hype.
>>291886606>>291886271F
>>291886271I really hope this makes all the official translators eager to pick his manga
Someone should storytime it
>>291886271RIP, Legend
>>291901900Real life version of this
>>291903731I mean, we got the first batch of Ashita getting an official release for the first time. I know you mean his other works, but baby steps.
>>291903511I mean he was already popular in manga before Ashita no Joe but nothing relevant to non-Japanese people. I remember when Kodansha was celebrating some anniversary they had famous people recommend their favorite Kodansha-published classics and someone named Shidenkai no Taka (which is older than Ashita no Joe). He was probably the fist guy to appear in over 1000 issues of the same magazine, before people like Morikawa or Itagaki were even getting off the ground and only a very small portion of that was Ashita no Joe.
>>291886271R.I.P., I only hope he knew of Jesus
>>291903404
>>291903404>miura>chibai'm scared of who else he will comment onand he won't be able to comment on himself, that time isn't far
How should I consume Ashita no Joe? Should I watch the anime in full or stick with the manga?
>>291904430You should do both.
>>291887408He owns half of Valve, I wonder who inherits control when he goes.
ok lmfao ded boomar poastin ina stinkyQ!!!!11!!111 XDDD
>>291888555that two hours to live thing seems like bullshitCrazy life though, like Out's author but real.
>>291903404Morikawa, please finish your manga in an appropiate amount of time. I don't want another Miura.
>>291888555Otoko no SeizaWhere can I read this online? All I can find are jap scans
>>291903511>>291904090Oh right, I found it, I have no idea why publishers do these stunts if they delete the evidence afterwards. When asked to name a Kodansha-published work that they love or most impacted their life, the big winner was just Tetsuya Chiba. One famous old mangaka picked Ashita no Joe plus one young youtuber guy. Another famous mangaka picked the magazine but mentioned Joe and they chose to represent he magazine with an issue that had Joe on the cover. A third famous old mangaka (all of these mangaka are very famous in Japan but like Chiba, nobody outside Japan gives a shit about them) picked Shidenkai no Taka which was two works before Ashita no Joe and George Morikawa of Hajime no Ippo fame picked Harris no Kaze (the work right before Ashita no Joe). Another slightly younger but still famous to Japan only mangaka picked Chiba's short stories. Here is the link from the Internet Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20221112120331/https://www.kodansha.com/wmk/Taking all those works into account his prime influential years were 1963-1973 and his target demographic is now-old Japanese men but obviously before 63 he was a popular shojo mangaka so nobody would cite that stuff today. And the two major works he launched at the same time right after Joe are probably too modern for the people they picked to interview. His 1980's and 90's are probably where he was seen as no longer very relevant but still active. But most of that time was just spent on a singular golf manga which is his longest work. And then he came out of retirement a decade ago to do a little biography manga in full-color that had a few pages per chapter and I guess is now ended with his death. Obviously that would be recommended. Since it's about him including his childhood, it also features his two little brothers as kids who were famous manga creators as well and one was an early famous mangaka suicide (or maybe even the only famous one I know of besides that recent woman).
What are the chances of Weekly Shonen Magazine paying tribute to Chiba? Slim to none is my guess.
>>291888647I read an autobiography some ex boxer wrote waaay back in grade school. Some neighbor had put out a big box of books in the trash. I can't find it online since I can't remember the name but it was all about how this guy was a real prospect as a young man but his career never took off and he ended up being a can, a sparring partner who'd go from gym to gym for a pittance and occasionally be thrown at a young up and comer to pad their stats. He developed a severe tremor in his 30s and had someone else write the book as he dictated (or so it said in the intro). I want to say he boxed in the 50s but I can't remember, anyways despite it all the last chapter of the book ends with him saying he can't imagine any other life he could have lead, boxing was the only way he knew how to make a living.
As dozens of famous mangaka who got their start in the 50's were dying all at once, I always thought of Chiba as the active one still around. Is there anyone mainstream left now that he has passed? Apparently Tsunoda Jiro is still alive. He coincidentally drew another hit in the same magazine as Joe written by the same writer as Joe at the same time as Joe. Because of how long mangaka live, it will probably be decades before authors who were officially translated to English start passing.
>>291886271Not like he did anything in the last 30 years.Btw 95% of you are faggots that watched the movie at best. The "i remember" song isn't supposed to play at the end, you stupid pretentious faggots.
>>291890193fuck, I'm right in the middle of that, all the older people in my family were born around the same decade and they're dropping like flies, all made it to their 90s though besides those that died in war so it's a good sign for my potential longevity
>>291904968Big Comic obviously will since he was active there. Isn't it unusual for authors to get tributes from magazines they were not actively working with? I'm sure this could inspire someone to publish a personal tribute one-shot or something to him in a place like Weekly Shonen Magazine but nobody in editorial there would have been around when he was. Some of them probably weren't even born.
>>291904822anon, you seem knowledgeable. What manga are celebrated in Japan but unknown overseas yet available in scanlation? I read Kamui-den last year on a similar anon's recommendation and loved it.
>>291905063If you knew English, you could at least read a partial scanlation of his current series.
>>291905257Good, so i was 100% right.
>>291905037>Apparently Tsunoda Jiro is still alive. He coincidentally drew another hit in the same magazine as Joe written by the same writer as Joe at the same time as Joe.Karate Baka Ichidai. Tsunoda stopped drawing it after a falling out with Ikki Kajiwara and so the rest of the serial was drawn by Joya Kagemaru.To answer your question, Noboru Kawasaki (another mangaka with Kajiwara connections) is still alive at 85.
>>291903404 maybe i should meet my heroes and ask them stuff holy shit morikawa don't leave us too early i need to see ricardo asleep on the canvas...
>>291905461even if the series ends properly that probably won't happen, just saying
>>291904430 anime in full holds up surprisingly well, even the filler parts. it did some crazy visual shit that essentially became the precursor to newtype sequences in gundam
>>291886932>Jobs>Dies like a bitchlol
>>291896122it's neither sadly
>>291905498 the protagonist doesn't lose in every joe tribute! well, at least i think rainbow is joe-inspired
>>291905580>Sendo>ProtagonistSendo is literally Joe
why is everything so ragebait indult lately? not just here but in general. Feels like people just interact that way now
>>291886271FUCKKK
>>291905676 PR fabricated by thread simulator videos
I'm surprised he was still alive. Ashita No Joe started in the 1960s.
>>291905676Dopagakis desperately need their fix
>>291905228I get a lot of my manga knowledge from Japanese sources so I don't actually know what all gets scanlated. I do find myself surprised by things getting picked up recently that nobody would have touched back in the day. If I think of authors who worked in the same magazines as Shirato (and maybe did historical stuff if that's what you liked), Sabu to Ichi is fully scanlated and is just now getting rereleased in Japan as of like a month ago. Muyonosuke apparently had its first volume translated by a digital publisher JManga that went out of business a decade ago but it's still seeded on nyaa. Maybe I shouldn't tailor recommendations to your tastes but it's too broad otherwise and I have to research their scanlation status. You're probably more likely to find general hits from Weekly Shonen Magazine that were published in that Ashita no Joe period like Kyojin no Hoshi has a partial scanlation. Up until recently Kawasaki never had a single work translated to English but he's obviously a big deal in Japan. Asura was recently scanlated, that was a series that got its debut issue banned from sale to minors in some regions (same magazine where Joe was being published). But a lot of that stuff gets ignored by scanlators, not just because it's old but because they are often big time investments. Plus English people don't like baseball and the Japanese fucking loved that shit hardcore back then. You're not going to see Yakyū-kyō no Uta or probably any Mizushima (besides Zenikko I guess) in English ever. Also manga was very melodramatic back then. Lots of poverty, cannibalism, suicidal protagonists, etc. and probably hard for most modern manga audiences to relate to. I have a short series from Chiba about an impoverished village who tries to rob a child for his dead parent's hidden money and it ends with his girl burning his dying body in a pile of the recovered money before the villagers can get to it. Published while Joe was in the middle of its run.
He was chairman of the Japan Cartoonists Association from 2012 to 2018 and remained a sort of representative of manga. Early last year he asked for better preservation for old manga and related original material, especially for works of mangaka older than himself.
>>291906172
POSTING IN A STICKY
>>291903404Will Morikawa get another power-up just like with Miura's death? Is Sendo going to actually die now?
>>291906187get out of here you fucking rat
>>291906172>Early last year he asked for better preservation for old manga and related original material, especially for works of mangaka older than himself.He is right. For example: I want to read Anmitsu-Hime manga. We only have this Anime episodehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_gDoRJ6C4
>>291906425 if he lives he gets with his teacher since there's currently an oneeshota drought that's a red flag...
>>291905676I found this thread better than some of the other recent death stickies desu.
>>291906036ty anon, I wish I had the discipline to learn Japanese but I have PTSD from Chinese lessons being forced on me as a small child.I'm not particularly into historical stuff but that was my first glimpse at how much shit I was missing out on by sticking to whatever manga made it's way to me naturally, I liked it so much I went out and got a hardcopy to re-read at home since I'm lucky enough that it got a release in my native language. I've found a few interesting things by following certain scanlation groups but other than that I dunno how to look for this stuff in English.I'm reading Takao Saito's Suvival right now so I guess I'll read Sabu to Ichi next, or Asura first since that's so short.
>>291903404>wanpowanwanbased joji
>>291903404beautiful tribute and a nice origin I had no idea about
>>291903404damn.
>>291905924He's been popular since the 50's. If starting in the late 60's is where you think people are too old, you're an idiot. Those people are all still alive. Kids like Go Nagai were starting when Ashita no Joe did. The writer of Hokuto no Ken got his start while Joe was ongoing (Joe ended in 1973). Even extremely young and way later authors like Otomo of Akira fame got his debut only weeks after Ashita no Joe ended. Chiba had over a dozen series before Joe. Ryoichi Ikegami just recently ended a successful series with the writer of Eyeshield 21 and he debuted before Ashita no Joe, at the time of Ashita he was serializing the original Japanese Spider-Man manga. The artist of the big Magazine hit just before Joe is still alive. Plus there's all the women too who started in the 60's as male authors shifted away from shojo. Year 24 Group ladies are still active. I don't know if it's even been possible yet for female mangaka to die of old age considering they are Japanese and when they would have debuted. The people who have been dying this decade (with Chiba being one of the last of his generation) were already all deeply established in their careers by the time Ashita no Joe started.
>>291890155Get Up Joe Chiba
>>291903404I almost wonder if he'd be any decent if he tried to do a tragedy series.
>>291907158only if he got to pepper it with dick jokes every few chapters
one hit mangaka
>>291890155Which way is tomorrow, ChibaI have a big paper due next week, I need this to work
condolences from /vr/
>>291888651WHEN they go?
>>291903404Fuck...
>>291907158Ippo may as well be a tragedy at this point
He's very underappreciated at drawing girls. Having to start out in shoujo used to give mangaka a certain something.
>>291902866It's mecha, so it's an even greater normalfag filter than non-mecha related works. A lot of people don't want to touch anything with giant robots outside of Evangelion.
>>291886271RIP YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD. You'll always be a champion.
>>291907551Here's the girl from the pilot animated by Miyazaki for one of Chiba's shoujo manga
>>291907798
>>291907812by the way Miyazaki admitted he loves Chiba's airplane manga, even though he isn't into gekiga-style mangaka and their works
>>291907833more shoujo
>>291887408Dont even joke about it, Im not ready for valve to go full corpo.
>>291886271Excellent Artist, Ashita no Joe is one of the greatest Manga of all time. It has a certain rawness and realness that is rare in any story telling medium. It truly is something special.
>>291906534Great first episode
>>291886271He made so many Shoujo Manga series. But nobody knows this
>>291902774This, I saw both series and although the first is low budget I still enjoyed it. Especially that Rikishi scene goddamn
>>291903221awesome
>>291886271Heyyyy Joe
>>291907158He's on his way with Ippo by crippling everyone from his generation.
Damn. We lost a legend. This man's artistic and storytelling works are some of the first from the manga medium that I ever read, period.Hard to believe he's gone...Chiba-sensei will be truly missed! </3
>>WHATTHEFUCK
>>291899357Holy fuck I never the author of Ashita no Joe had it this. I feel bad for the Taiwanese mother more since this was her only daughter and child. The Triad guys that killed her all got killed or executed. That hostage story with the South African family is also pretty crazy.No wonder Jackie Chan, Chow Yun Fat, and Jet Li did a fuck ton of police crime action films.
>>291887345Todd HowardHis soul will be claimed for releasing ang giving birth to the absolute anti christ known as Fallout 76
>>291887332partly that and partly that they have less dense bones, which makes them vulnerable at heavier divisions
>>291888555This is a RGG storyline wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3MZkzNkhf4
>>291890025It's either that or the cross counter
>>291886271>Tetsuya Chiba and Walter Koenig didn't make it to GTA 6
>>291886271https://youtu.be/-6fyxUdFTNU?si=iOPhhNJWKzeM1M-t
>>291886271FUCK Rip
Well, did Noriko get over Joe and truly loved Nishi? Or did she hook up with Nishi as a second best choice and try to to make Joe jealous?
>>291888555Okay, apparently the Antonio Inoki kidnapping incident was not as bad as it sounds and there wasn't any actual kidnapping.
>>291908899and*my first ESL moment
>>291890155 which way is tomorrow, chiba...
>>291898696The Japanese minister of transport actually offered to exchange himself for the hostages and went through with it. now that is kind of based
yuo are acountible 4 everythign that is hapening an dwil hapen to you. suplying yuo with more spirituale sicknessd thatl blemish yuor already rekt karmic pllate is just the chery ontop my triplelayer angle cake. enjy hiding hiding behinds th headstonz of thr ghostchive wile u ARe becos im upgrading my 12incher 1triggerbite ipad 2 the parental patrol IOS,, 2d text and file to dmt elf dimension zdiscos. fill dat sluggish ssri void wit fortnite royalz an graze thr grass liek the glasseyd gote yu arByebye
>>291886271RIP man
>>291890155Get Up Joe Chiba!
Disregard hoes, life is about being consumed by the fires of a burning passion... Thanks for sharing your fire with us, sensei.
>not even 1,000 posts after 25 hours
>>291886271Ashita no Joe was the first spokon that truly made an impact on me. Its story, narrative, characters, raw intensity, and highly realistic setting created a standard that no subsequent manga could ever match. While the trend during the Showa era was to churn out as many baseball themed manga as possible, this series set a major milestone and became a classic, and that’s even before considering its legendary ending. People don’t fully grasp the magnitude of the loss of this duo, first Kajiwara, and now Chiba.>>291910290Neither the Monkey Punch's death nor the Mizuki Shigeru's reached 1,000, and I fear the worst for the future when the same thing happens with Go Nagai or even Rumiko.
>>291910505Go Nagai won't even get a sticky. Rumiko will get a huge sticky because she's casual af.
>>291910531It would be really sad if Nagai didn’t have a sticky, he was a pioneer in many genres and his influence was enormous, even greater than Tezuka’s. If that were to happen, i'd completely lose all faith in /a/ (aka neo-/a/).
>>291886271Time for a new watch binge of an old anime. Never watched this anime, but now I will in respect.
>>291909569I think she understood him well to know Joe was never going to change, so she decided to walk away before watching him self-destruct. Joe was like living your dream even if is self-destructive, Nishi is like a simple and routine life. So she choose Nishi over Joe.
>>291909569like a lot of ashita no joe, I feel this is up to interpretation, especially the meaning of noriko's expression after joe's speech. In the wake of chiba's death I saw a lot of japanese people talking about that scene.
>>291910805forgot to say, the way I always interpreted norikos reaction to joes best man speech was that she was looking at him with pity. and as for joes speech, I felt it was pretty melancholic. not that joe had any sort of regret over noriko, but maybe sadness watching people he was with from the start of his boxing career enter a new world, far away from his. joe was always alone, but right before the mendoza fight I dont think he had felt more alone since he was thrown in juvie. even danpei who was closest to him probably never really understood joe. Id say only carlos and yoko at the end of the mendoza fight when she returns after running away really understood joe.
>>291910505 >with Go Nagai /m/ doesn't even fucking do stickys anymore i think just one guy is running the show at this point
>>291888510 sometimes i see this one listed, does it actually count? legend of the galactic heroes spoilers
>>291886271RIP boxing man
>>291886271RIP. Read it after it was referenced so much and then I understood why. Truly one of the best
>>291911040This is not the right place or time to say this butI think it's overratedNot just overrated but overoverratedIt's a solid 6/10 so about as good as Naruto maybe
>>291911213Yes yes nice bait here your (You) don't spend it all in one place
Aw dammit...F
>>291911213People who argue it, or Berserk, as beacon of moral value, if not philosophical or metaphysical, are definitely cuckoos.Yet, it is, still, a legitimate piece of work.Though I couldn't watch the second season, the animation art style changed for the worse and something happened to the seiyuus.(You)
ro ro ro, rocky rocky rocky joe
>>291888177Thanks, Shirou
>>291911287It only functioned as good bait because I truly believe it and wrote it with true convictionIt's a shallow story in that seinenslop way of "bad things happen">>291911405I would never argue it's not a legitimate piece of work. I read the manga though maybe the anime adds more with good direction or whatnot
>>291886271RIP>>291897436Easily, and it goes beyond anime and manga. Few manga pages are as recognizable and culturally relevant as this one. Truly iconic.>>2918947834chan is aggressively range banning people. They are killing the site.
>>291911561I have a massive stick up my arse right now but I don't think recognizability and cultural relevance matter (at least to me I guess). Only if a story is good or not. R&CR is just a dick measuring contest, ego proxy
Yabuki Joe (Ashita no Joe) and Gearless Joe (Megalo Box) by Chiba Tetsuya from 2021
>>291911712He drew pretty good for an octogenarian
>>291911712why this dude looks so white for a japanese
>>291911927it’s manga you fucking have to draw good
>>291912048Yeah but to still be able to do it at his age is impressive
>>291886271dude. this decade is the fucking worse.
I don't know who that is or what his gay ass comic book is about so I don't care.
>>291886271f
>>291910290>not even 1,000 posts after 25 hoursBecause people don't read manga. People don't even watch anime. They come here to post and waste time
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>>291903404>what does it feel to be strong?fuck..
>>291886271Rest in peace, legend.
>>291886271Requisescat in pace
>>291910928I think it's more just a coincidentally similar shot in this case.
>>291911712ngl if you told me at the time that that dude is 82, I'd have a heard time believing it. He aged gracefully as hell.
>>291909366>and Walter KoenigWait what?WHAT?!WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN
>>291914349Same day this happened
I hope I can live long enough that my cause of death can just be listed as "natural causes"
Too bad they fucked everything up with S2, this would've been the perfect time to release it
>>291887384Sleeping is key
>>291905676It used to be bad but El*n giving money for interactions infected the entire internet at once
>>291888119This, just don't breathe.
>>291906534The Toei adaptation of Chiba's own Akane-chan is not available to watch. And we're talking about the work of the dude who got the Order of Culture.
>>291886271Rest in peace. Lived a great life though.
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>>291914822>Too bad they fucked everything up with S2That season was great. Everything got resolved
>>291915193Anju to Zushioumaru is one single Movie I don't understand why people don't have the time to WATCH IT
>>291915383They don't even know it exists.
>>291915193Only netflix can save us
>>291915193Frieren over Evangelion is just crazy. Particularly when it also shows that people know about Evangelion and probably its reputation and influence. Are people really drawn to flavour of the day to that extent?
old series? nahisekai best anime evar
>>291910505>>291886271https://youtu.be/sCKlctijzhg?si=bHaMAdWc2arC0z9I
>>29188629987 years old.......he was just a fucking kid. Me(28) I'm an old man.
>>291890232> retards can't readThe first paragraph literally ends with him getting canceled when the police got involved and his scandals got public.
>>291895765how come these japanese boxers aren't as well known?
>>291915193Where is that even from?
>>291886271RIP...
>>291915383What is it about?
>>291915735>flavour of the daymost of these shows are decades old
>>291915735It's not crazy at all. Evangelion first aired before most of today's anime audience was even born. As a general rule, people are prone to engage with whatever work arrives new on the scene during their own time and don't "start with the Greeks." It's the same with all those people who've heard that Citizen Kane supposedly is the best movie ever made and hugely influental at any rate, but how many outside dedicated film students have actually watched it?
>>291917251It's Toei's version of the Sansho the Bailiff tale which Kenji Mizoguchi had adapted 7 yrs before. It was meant to be more serious than other Toei animated films and earn animation prestige and recognition from adults. Many animators didn't like the idea of showing a depressive film like this to children however, showcasing tragedy and characters being rather powerless. It doesn't encourage optimism and fighting like Horus does. It ended up in a strange place in history. But it's one of their best classics. NTA.
>>291917455Are you too stupid to read a simple post? Or don't you understand what the chart says?I explicitely questioned why the one thing that isn't (Frieren, i.e. flavourt of the day) is significantly more popular than anything else on that list.
Sticky is gone, but nice while it lasted.F
>>291917478>how many outside dedicated film students have actually watched it?Well, depends on whom you ask. I have. It's not that great, by the way, technical achievements aside it's a rather trite and simplistic story that hinges on one single gimmick.Pretty much anyone who's actually interested in the medium of film has. Of course, if you polled general audiences at a cinema, yes, they'd be more likely to have seen the newest Marvel slop. But I assume that's not how that chart in question came to be, is it? Considering that practically everyone on there had heard about Evanglion and Gundam and even something relatively non-mainstream as LotGH, tells me that the people polled would consider themselves anime fans. Shouldn't they be the equivalent to /film/-threads over on /tv/? I.e. the guys who've all seen Citizen Kane and don't care about contemporary mainstream cinema much?
>>291918449>It's not that greatGet some fucking taste you retard. Pearls before swine.
>>291915735Evangelion isn't that good.
See you sensei, rest in peace.Joe's influence cannot be overstated, I knew of the cross counter and that final panel before even knowing of ashita no joe. I kept seeing it in every anime that I watched, not knowing that it was the influence of Chiba sensei's work that influenced the authors of the works that I watched.
>>291918529Have you read the Great Gatsby? Or any of the countless US novels of that time whose main point was a subversion of the "American Dream" and a sceptical look at wealth and success? It was a whole genre, and by the time Citizen Kane came around, it had already fallen out of fashion. But not only is Citizen Kane a late arrival, it also failed to add anything novel or unique to the general concept. Without the gimmicky twist (that everyone knows beforehand nowadays anyway), all you're left with is a cookie-cutter protagonist and a badly-paced, poorly-structured skeleton of a flashback plot.Do you really think it gets taught in film schools and rated highly by film fans because of its writing? No, that's all down to its visual language, its camerawork, set-design, editing and for being arguably the first film who brought countless clever special effects together and perfected their use. For that, it certainly deserves the praise it gets. Not for telling a simple tropey story that had been told over and over before.
>don't watch oldarcade and jp dev for those years had decent use of budget and staff counts, games for world tournament could just use about 250mbfairly stopped after dc, then ps2 and later became dumbed down difficulty, budget out the ass for things like muh 150gb+ graphics(resolution), and stupid staff countsit made a lot of moonlander devs leave, even some gaijin onesnow retards are shit at games and applaud stuff like dark souls for difficulty, but make them play an older arcade (fighting)game and they'd get raped by cpu etcthe same retardation is happening with chinese cartoonsliteral china with disappearing staff/budgets, and stupid attempts at needless res that get little animationthey try to hide it with things like stupid segments of uber zoom ins on a single eye etc that can be a still frameif they can get away from china and stop with needless res etc, ease workflow to make 13 ep cours instead of cramming nonsense(res) for 8, i think they could recover instead of degrading further into dumb stillsalas 3d and ai is getting easier, i can only hope it leads to fair blessing than a curseand funnily enough, usable 3d for workflow becomes an issue at needless higher res, the same goes for ai spam
>>291886271I Can't believe we don't even have half his works in English
>>291918828forgot to add i guess, animation staff/studios also disappeared related to budget and res use
>>291918827That's a lot of cope for trying to shit on a brilliant film just because you are low IQ and have no taste or ability of appraisal. It's not praised for being the first at anything, because it wasn't (despite your fucking retarded claims), it's praised because it's an excellent film.
Older series had a fair limiter with cel, they became stupid with digital. Even lines up with PS2 for studio changes.
>>291918627That's not the point. It's a highly acclaimed anime that represents the conventions of its time within the medium and (despite heavily borrowing from its own inspirations) was influential on what followed it.Whether you consider it good or not is something you'll only know after watching it yourself. It's elevated position is a good reason to watch it. Frieren on the other hand doesn't have any of that. What it had was a short-lived hype.I actually think the Citizen Kane vs. Marvel thing I'm discussing with the other anon is a pretty good analogy: Of course you can, as a fan of the medium, not watch Evanglion and watch Frieren. But statistically, you'd think the majority would choose to do first watch the anime with a legacy before checking out current trends.
>>291918952Your post in contrast is very little effort for trying to argue for a film you consider "brilliant". In fact, the only answer you seem to have against a pretty detailled critique that points out the good and the bad is "muh excellent film" and going full ad-hominem.I have to assume that you don't actually care about the film as much as you do, lest you'd been able to at least elaborate on what you liked about its narrative or why you think anything I said about it was wrong. I also have to assume that you are indeed missing the historical context of the things it imitated (poorly).And, yes, it literally gets taught in film schools for being a "first". Not the first to do any of the techniques, of course, but the first to go large-scale with them. It's a "showcase" for the visual storytelling innovations of its era. There's no debate to be had about that. That's just how it gets taught and discussed. Studying film is not your professors showing you "excellent films". They show you films to make certain specific points.
>>291919247I don't need to make a canned effort trying to convince an absolute contrarian moron on /a/ about the merits of Citizen Kane. There are hundreds of essays that do that. It's obvious you don't have the capacity for it anyway. All I am is doing is stating to you a simple fact about its reputation. Plus you've now made it obvious you're an evafag using double standards in your praise of that work so that's an extra point of hilarity and a double confirmation of your general ignorance. I do not respect you, I do not wish to convince you and I will continue to ridicule you.
>>291919331At this point you have to be trolling. You don't even know anything about the critical reception of your beloved film. Not at the time, not later on: Practically all of those "essays" praise exactly what I praised about it: The visual effects, cinematography, editing. Technical aspects.Writing is rarely ever mentioned.By the way, did you know that it was a massive flop at the box office? Yes, there was a campaign against it by Hurst, but that usually gets overstated: The film did even worse internationally. Granted, the whole Great Gatsby genre is tailored to the American mentality and generally considered ridiculously simplistic and superficial outside of the US. So it's no surprise that Citizen Kane as one of its most formulaic representants would not appeal to European audiences who never bought into the trend.>you're an evafagKek. No. I do like several of its influences. Gundam and Mazinger, hell, it even owes a lot to Sailor Moon. And all of those things tell better stories than NGE. But it did excel at its characters. The original series, at least. The rebuilds are ... another story, literally and figuratively.Ironically, Evangelion really does falter on the technical side whereas Citizen Kane perfects its. The parallels really are in their reputation and industry influence.Anyway, since the thread is ending and you don't seem to want to make any actual argument anyway ... I guess we can end it here, right?
>>291919743>At this point you have to be trolling.No.>You don't even know anything about the critical reception of your beloved film.No. >Practically all of those "essays" praise exactly what I praised about itNot exclusively. No.>The film did even worse internationally.>tailored to the American mentality and generally considered ridiculously simplistic and superficial outside of the US>[did] not appeal to European audiencesAbsolutely wrong. It performed better in Europe and in fact French critics used the film to push the film Auteur concept. Thanks for unveiling your own ignorance yet again, poser.
>>291919861>It performed better in EuropeIt literally did not. It barely even aired in Europe initially (and blaming WW2 for that is only a partial truth, cinemas were open and well frequented, but not as friendly to American contributions).Post war, as it got its re-runs in the US, more European cinemas aired it, but the box office was outright abysmal. I recommend you look up what boxofficemojo has to say on the issue:https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0033467/The data is not complete, of course, but what it provides are numbers in the four-digits to low five-digits on the few runs it got in France and Italy, two of the most relevant markets in Europe (missing Germany and Spain).Critical reception was way worse than it was in the US, and, no, "French critics" did not push any "auteur concept", much less using this film. Not sure what you're thinking of here. Maybe one fringe critic did? Or maybe you're pulling it out of your arse like the rest of your shitposts?
>>291919861Here, I looked up what Sartre (yes, THE Jean-Paul Sartre) had to say about it in his review for you:https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/08/12/sartre-and-borges-on-welles/>Kane might have been interesting for the Americans, [but] it is completely passé for us, because the whole film is based on a misconception of what cinema is all about. The film is in the past tense, whereas we all know that cinema has got to be in the present tense. ‘I am the man who is kissing, I am the girl who is being kissed, I am the Indian who is being pursued, I am the man pursuing the Indian.’ And film in the past tense is the antithesis of cinema. Therefore Citizen Kane is not cinema.He literally pointed out the sloppy uninteresting writing, and that its story would not appeal to Europeans as it did to Americans.The site linked also provides an even more scathing judgement by Argentinian author Jorge Luis Borges:>The production is, in general, worthy of its vast subject. The cinematography has a striking depth, and there are shots whose farthest planes (like Pre-Raphaelite paintings) are as precise and detailed as the close-ups. I venture to guess, nonetheless, that Citizen Kane will endure as a certain Griffith or Pudovkin films have “endured”—films whose historical value is undeniable but which no one cares to see again. It is too gigantic, pedantic, tedious. It is not intelligent, though it is the work of genius—in the most nocturnal and Germanic sense of that bad word.
i joe you joe~
>page 10SEE YOU AGAIN, /a/
>>291920786See you again
